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Alexander Grischuk vs Wesley So
World Championship Candidates (2018), Berlin GER, rd 2, Mar-11
Spanish Game: Closed. Martinez Variation (C78)  ·  1-0


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  wordfunph: long live the curse!

Grischuk - So

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  wordfunph: for sure, So is hiding his prep.
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  saffuna: <for sure, So is hiding his prep.>

Maybe he forgot where he hid it.

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  saffuna: Grischuk after 22. Rc5:

"If there isn't a mate, I'm quitting chess."

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  saffuna: Grischuk on playing aggressively in time trouble: "If you checkmate you don't have to reach move 40."

So was very composed and calm during the post mortem.

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  wordfunph: Grischuk, i love you!


Mar-12-18  Scarborough shoal: The girlfriend of WS is the reason for his poor performance. Too much extracullicular activities.
Mar-12-18  morfishine: This is either the dumbest post of the year or a flat attempt at sarcasm: <wordfunph: for sure, So is hiding his prep>

Whats the point in keeping preparation under lock and key? Especially now: This is the time, of all times, to be using it!


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  perfidious: <morf>, it is a long-running joke which actually referred to another top player, beginning a few years back.
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  wordfunph: eyy <morf>, don't take life seriously.
Mar-12-18  Nonnus: Actually, it was in reference to the last tournament W. So played in where he didn't do well. His fans were <praising> (!) his not-too-good performance by saying that it is WISE that he is <hiding his preparations for the tournament which really matters--the Candidates>.
Mar-12-18  gokusano: The trolls at the ws page have everything cut out to make their idol stay aloft. They cannot accept realty.
Mar-12-18  cormier:

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Analysis by Houdini 4: d 29 dpa done

1. = (0.03): 10...Na5 11.Bc2 c5 12.Re1 h6 13.Nf1 Re8 14.Ne3 Bf8 15.Nh2 d5 16.Nhg4 d4 17.Nf5 Re6 18.cxd4 cxd4 19.Bd2 Rc8 20.Rc1 Nxg4 21.Qxg4 Rg6 22.Qh5 Rgc6 23.Bb1 Qf6 24.Rcd1 b4 25.Rc1 Qg6 26.Qe2 Rxc1

2. = (0.16): 10...h6 11.a4 Na5 12.Ba2 c5 13.Re1 c4 14.b4 cxb3 15.Nxb3 Nxb3 16.Qxb3 Bc6 17.axb5 axb5 18.Be3 Qb8 19.Nh4 d5 20.Nf5 Qc7 21.f3 Rfd8 22.Nxe7+ Qxe7 23.Red1 Nh5 24.exd5 Bxd5 25.c4 bxc4 26.dxc4 Be6 27.Rxd8+ Qxd8 28.Qb2 Ng3 29.Bf2 Qg5

Mar-12-18  morfishine: <wordfunph> Alas, the difficulty of detecting sarcasm in the digital age...I did suspect it though

Rebuke accepted

best, morf


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  Honza Cervenka: 12...d5 was too optimistic. Chucky knows better how to treat this line: Yudasin vs Ivanchuk, 1991
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  ChessHigherCat: Grischuk is a great player, I have to admit. i got a very negative impression watching him blitz against Karjakin last year, where they were both making silly little repetitive moves to win on time. That's just the nature of blitz, though. He's really a much more interesting player than Karjakin.

Regarding So, this game really made feel sorry for the guy. He has obviously lost it and has serious psychological problems. I hope he can make a good living playing simultaneous games or coaching or something. We can't judge him too harshly just because his fans are nut cases.

Mar-13-18  Pulo y Gata: <Regarding So, this game really made feel sorry for the guy. He has obviously lost it and has serious psychological problems.>

So you noticed it too. But even his fans clearly have psychological problems. Several of them received messages from God before the tournament started but the these heavenly messages ceased after he lost the first two rounds.

Mar-13-18  Pulo y Gata: <gokusano: The trolls at the ws page have everything cut out to make their idol stay aloft. They cannot accept realty.>

If by "cannot accept REALTY" means they refuse to bury him under the ground/soil/land, then I agree with you. However, he can be entombed in cement, figuratively speaking.

Mar-13-18  veerar: 10....Na5,followed by c5 seems better.The backward c pawn does Black in.
Mar-13-18  veerar: < cormier>Standard against the Ruy.Besides,So wastes a tempo.Black plays aimlessly,very early in the game.
Mar-13-18  veerar: <ChessHigherCat>Missed being the challenger.Has the habit of bringing, his rook out, early.
Mar-26-18  cormier: Stockfish 8 Depth: 21

0.75 20. ... Bf6 21. Rg4 Rad8 22. Bxh6 Nxd4 23. Nxd4 Bxd4 24. Qc2 c5 25. Rd1 Qxg4 26. hxg4 Be4 27. Qc1 gxh6 28. Bc2 Kg7 29. Kf1 Bg6 30. Bxg6 fxg6 31. b3 Rd7 32. f3 Rd6 33. Qc2 Rf6 34. Rd2 Rf7

1.33 20. ... Bf8

Mar-26-18  cormier: Stockfish 8 Depth: 25

0.52 18. ... Bf8 19. Rc1 Nb6 20. Nc5 Bxc5 21. dxc5 Nc4 22. Bxc4 bxc4 23. Rxc4 Rxe1+ 24. Qxe1 Re8 25. Re4 Rxe4 26. Qxe4 Nd8 27. Qd4 Qd5 28. b4 Ne6 29. Qxd5 Bxd5 30. a3 f6 31. Kh2 g5 32. Kg3 Kf7 33. h4 Kg6 34. hxg5 hxg5 35. Bc3 Kf7 36. a4

0.52 18. ... Nb6 19. Rc1 Bf8 20. Nc5 Bxc5 21. dxc5 Nc4 22. Bxc4 bxc4 23. Rxc4 Rxe1+ 24. Qxe1 Re8 25. Re4 Rxe4 26. Qxe4 Nd8 27. Qd4 Qd5 28. b4 Ne6 29. Qxd5 Bxd5 30. a3 f6 31. Kf1 g5 32. Ke2 Bc4+ 33. Ke3 Bd5 34. Bc3 Nf4 35. Kd4 Kf7 36. h4

0.64 18. ... Rad8 19. Rc1

Mar-26-18  cormier: Stockfish 8 Depth: 25

0.10 17. ... Rad8 18. Ng3 Rfe8 19. a3 Nb6 20. Qc2 Nxd4 21. Nxd4 Qxd4 22. Nf5 Qf6 23. Qxc7 Qxf5 24. Rxe7 Bd5 25. Qxb6 Bxb3 26. Be3 Qc8 27. Rxe8+ Rxe8 28. Rc1 Qe6 29. Qxe6 Rxe6 30. Rc5 Kf8 31. Kh2 Rf6 32. g3 Be6 33. Rc7 Bd5

0.25 17. ... Rae8 18. a4 Nf6 19. axb5 axb5 20. Nc3 b4 21. Nb5 Bd6 22. Rxe8 Rxe8 23. Bd2 Nd8 24. Bc4 Bd5 25. Nxd6 Qxd6 26. Bxd5 Nxd5 27. Qa4 Qe7 28. Ne5 Ne6 29. Nc6 Qd7 30. Nxb4 Qxa4 31. Rxa4 Nxb4 32. Rxb4 Rd8

0.42 17. ... Rfd8

Mar-27-18  Saniyat24: The board looks beautiful after 17.Ne4...!
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