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Sergey Karjakin vs Magnus Carlsen
Altibox Norway (2018), rd 2, May-29
Spanish Game: Morphy Defense. Neo-Archangelsk Variation (C78)  ·  1/2-1/2
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May-29-18  JPi: 19...Rfe8 For 20...BxN 21.gxB Re2
May-29-18
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  ChessHigherCat: Black should play Rd8 to prevent a massive trade down with Nd6
May-29-18
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  An Englishman: Good Morning: Still feeling skeptical that Black has enough compensation, but am not, never was, and never will be a GM.
May-29-18
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  Marmot PFL: This is one of several Spanish lines (like the Marshal and Schliemann) where black can give up a pawn and usually draw.
May-29-18
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  whiteshark: It took Karjakin 20 minutes to grab the ♙d6.
May-29-18  JPi: Needless to be GM <An Englishman> there is no healthy pawn up here the exchange on f3 then Re2 forces be3 and again exchanges on e3 gives back the pawn.
May-29-18
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  Mateo: As Russians use to say, all Rook endings are drawn. Thus draw.
May-29-18
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  whiteshark: Svidler on the deep reason behind Carlsen's quickly played <15...Bf5: <"My explanation is that it's the computer's first line, and he knows">>

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That's probably right!

May-29-18
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  Sally Simpson: Hi C.H.C.

A pawn is a pawn. This one was grabbed not with the idea of hanging on to it. But to give Karjakin some bargaining power. He will give it back when he is ready.

Probably ease out to a draw. But Carlsen may over press or Karjakin may play a 'Rule of Thumb' blunder like Caruana did yesterday (he swapped off like we are advised to do when defending but miss-timed it. ).

Note the roles won't be reversed. Karjakin would never over-press v Carlsen, he fears him. And Carlsen is very Lasker like. The Roles of Thumb don't apply to him.

May-29-18
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  An Englishman: Good Morning: And just like that, White gives back the pawn. Had no clue that might happen. Can't deny wishing for a 3 vs. 1 on the Queen side against a 3 vs. 1 on the King side--that would get exciting. Always did find Rook endgames fascinating.
May-29-18  Ulhumbrus: On 24...Rxf3 instead of an immediate 25 Rxb7 White can threaten a back rank mate first by 25 Rad1 and after that play 26 Rxb7, having gained a tempo for development for his queen's rook
May-29-18  Ulhumbrus: Instead of 27 Rd8+, 27 c4 develops the potential passed pawn
May-29-18  Ulhumbrus: White has a rook on the seventh rank and Black's rook is tied to the defence of the b pawn. White's king threatens to advance as does White's c pawn. Black seems in trouble, in danger of losing the game, in fact. How is Carlsen going to answer the threats?
May-29-18
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  ChessHigherCat: Talk about a massive trade-down! I just walked home from the breakfast place and it looks like there's been a nuclear holocaust. Did they trade a lot of pieces really fast?
May-29-18
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  An Englishman: Good Morning: Intended to write that 31.Rc6,Ra8 was a better line for White than 31.Ra7,Rb6!, but they beat me to it. Black threatens 32...Kd7 stifling White's pressure (33.Rb6,Kc7), so looking at 32.Rc7.
May-29-18
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  ChessHigherCat: The only way SF sees anything but a draw is if MC is dumb enough to play Kd6. Fat chance.
May-29-18
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  ChessHigherCat: 41...Kd6 that is.
May-29-18  Ulhumbrus: Instead of 31 Rc6, 31 Ke3 develops White's king. Karjakin may have let slip at least some of his advantage with this move.
May-29-18
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  offramp: A game of very little interest.
May-29-18
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  ChessHigherCat: < An Englishman: Good Morning: Still feeling skeptical that Black has enough compensation, but am not, never was, and never will be a GM.>

That may be so, Mr. Englishman, but that is not what we called you to testify about before the Committee. What we all would like to know today is whether you are, ever have been, or ever will be a member of the Communist Party?

May-29-18
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  HeMateMe: <That's wrong, as I've told you before. Where did you hear that?>

<Beer is very expensive because it is heavily taxed, as are all alcoholic beverages, as part of a strategy to curb alcoholism. My Norwegian friends assured me that the plan is not working>

<The Nordics have the most expensive prices on food and alcohol in Europe>

<http://nordic.businessinsider.com/d...>

May-30-18
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  rogge: My point is, alcoholism isn't a bigger problem in Norway than in other countries, now or in the past, which you seem to imply regularly. But high taxes on alcohol and tobacco reduce public health problems caused by (excessive) use.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...

May-30-18
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  mike1: and during prohibition there was no alcohol consumption at all, of course....or?

could we please go back to chess?

May-30-18
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  rogge: Cheers!
May-30-18  WorstPlayerEver: A game which has as much charisma as the players themselves ^^
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