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|Feb-09-13|| ||jessicafischerqueen: Good morning.
Would you please change this name Baron Tassilo Heydebrand und der Lasa to its proper form?
It is absolutely incorrect without the "von."
Baron Tassilo <von> Heydebrand und der Lasa
Thanks in advance.
|Feb-11-13|| ||chessgames.com: We went ahead and fixed Baron Tassilo von Heydebrand und der Lasa, although we did not do as the correction slip suggested, which was to eliminate the "Baron" altogether. (We might have been persuaded to do so, but he didn't really state his case.)|
Personally I rather like titles of nobilities for the few historical figures like Prince Dadian and Count Isouard. It helps place their games in historical context.
Another peripheral question comes up: what's the best "short form" of his name, for purposes of his games such as Von Der Lasa vs Mayet, 1839. Right now we use "Von Der Lasa." That abbreviation may be correct, or maybe not--if somebody has a good feel for these kinds of names please elaborate.
|Feb-11-13|| ||Annie K.: <cg> In that case, I'd definitely go for including the 'Baron' part in the short form - his name/title actually means 'Tassilo, Baron of Heydebrand and The Lasa'. So a "last name" may be phrased as 'Baron von Heydebrand und Der Lasa', or just 'Baron von Heydebrand', or 'Baron von Der Lasa', but without the Baron part, it doesn't really mean anything. :)|
|Feb-11-13|| ||chessgames.com: <On the subject of backlogs> There are a little over 2000 correction slips now. This is really tremendous progress considering that the CG Librarian started with some 6000+. The only reason that we aren't down to less than 100 slips is that new ones have been coming in at a breakneck speed now that people see they actually get tended to.|
The reason why there always seems to be this stubborn block of 2000-2500 slips is mostly because now we're coping with the really hard correction slips; ones that were read, we said "oy!" and then went on to grab low-hanging fruit.
Often we get slips of the form "I'm not really sure but it's a good guess that this H Schmidt is really Harvey Schmidt from Connecticut..." and we're not sure how seriously we can take that advice. To get to the bottom of this, research is required. Likewise, the player who is a little better over the board loses at move 38 ... curiously before time control. People will submit a note saying "nobody would resign there", but perhaps there is a story we don't know.
We don't know if it's possible for us to do all this research but we hate to delete a slip entirely--after all, the guy could easily be right.
So it should be obvious why the Librarian doesn't process slips in a strictly "first come first serve order". You really wouldn't like it if she operated that way; it would mean that your correction slip today will be stuck for a few months minimum. So she plays a kind of juggling act: tending to the people who have been waiting the longest overall, but also tending to the people who have been waiting a few days for some simple request.
It might not be the most efficient or fair system, but no slips get lost, so in the end we should be able to review every single case and accomplish the job as well as it can possibly be done.
|Feb-11-13|| ||OhioChessFan: <The only reason that we aren't down to less than 100 slips >|
I am betting The Librarian would admonish you to use "fewer than".
|Feb-11-13|| ||WannaBe: I'm betting The Librarian is hanging out with <Phony Benoni>. If you get my drift.|
Probably doing shots of Dr Pepper.
|Feb-12-13|| ||OhioChessFan: http://www.redbookmag.com/cm/redboo...|
|Feb-12-13|| ||jessicafischerqueen: <Annie>, <CG.com>|
In English, both in the past and currently, "Von der Lasa" has been the most common short term used, and by a wide margin, at least in my own reading experience.
It's used as the short term (or "last name") in Tim Harding's 2013 "Eminent Victorian Chess Players," for example, exactly the same as we already have at our website Von Der Lasa vs Loewenthal, 1846.
I'm pro Baron for the long form of his name, but I strongly advise that the traditionally and currently used short term for the player should be kept- Von der Lasa- even if it's wrong as <Annie> points out.
|Feb-12-13|| ||Karpova: <chessgames.com: We don't know if it's possible for us to do all this research but we hate to delete a slip entirely--after all, the guy could easily be right.>|
Why don't you post some of those research requiring slips in here or the biographer bistro so that the members can help you?
|Feb-12-13|| ||Alien Math: <Often we get slips of the form "I'm not really sure but it's a good guess that this H Schmidt is really Harvey Schmidt from Connecticut..." and we're not sure how seriously we can take that advice. To get to the bottom of this, research is required.|
We don't know if it's possible for us to do all this research but we hate to delete a slip entirely--after all, the guy could easily be right.> Possible to provide a forum with additional information's on submission slips requested by Librarian?
As <Karpova> suggest extra eyes could find variety of notes
|Feb-12-13|| ||jessicafischerqueen: I agree with <Karpova>. You are already trusting the biogaphers a great deal, why not make use of them further to take some of the load off the Librarian?|
|Feb-13-13|| ||crawfb5: <WannaBe: I'm betting The Librarian is hanging out with <Phony Benoni>. If you get my drift.|
Probably doing shots of Dr Pepper.>
I note that back in the day, the advertising all read Dr<.> Pepper, and the period got dropped somewhere along the way. I suppose it's all part of the general decline of Western civilization...
|Feb-13-13|| ||TheFocus: Oh, wonderful Dr Pepper!
Diet Dr Pepper is also a wonderful drink. The best of all diet sodas.
Another great thing, like <TheFocus>, to come out of Texas.
Of course, there is a big difference in taste ever since they began using high fructose corn syrup. But I shall still drink it.
I better stop now. My bib is covered with drool.
Nurse. I'll have a Dr Pepper. No, the drink. I don't need the doctor.
|Feb-13-13|| ||perfidious: <Dr Pepper> is an elixir of life.|
|Feb-13-13|| ||WannaBe: I'm a Diet Coke drinker... :-)|
|Feb-13-13|| ||Phony Benoni: Well, that explains it.|
|Feb-14-13|| ||TheFocus: Yep. So now we know. Mystery solved.|
|Feb-14-13|| ||OhioChessFan: Diet Mt. Dew. No contest.|
|Feb-14-13|| ||perfidious: <OCF> I know a fellow who is in his early sixties, works out three times a week, takes care of himself in other ways, but Diet Mountain Dew is his one weakness.|
|Apr-16-13|| ||suenteus po 147: <CG Librarian> Hello! I've been out of touch with the site the last year or so, but I'm back with a burning desire to help clean up the site and get some historically important tournament collections completed. To this end, I'd like to finish Frankfurt 1887, but that means fixing two very error-ridden games. I'd like to bring to your attention Schiffers vs Burn, 1887 and W Paulsen vs Bird, 1885 I've already filled out correction slips, but if you could place these high in priority, I'd greatly appreciate it. You do amazing work here!|
|Aug-06-13|| ||Karpova: Hi <CG Librarian>!
Regarding Springe see the discussion:
me: Biographer Bistro
<thomastonk>: Biographer Bistro
|Oct-04-13|| ||Karpova: Georg Maier|
There was a Georg Maier from Munich who died at a young age on April 26, 1926 according to p. 157 of the May 1926 'Neue Wiener Schachzeitung'. He could have played the two 1921 games against Spielmann.
|Nov-03-13|| ||ethn: Ignored corrections:
Lombardy vs Schmid, 1969
Please see my comment on the page.
M Gerusel vs Lombardy, 1957
Please see my comment on the page.
|Nov-28-13|| ||ethn: Why hasn't the Gerusel game not been fixed? such a great game deserves to be accurate.|
|Dec-01-13|| ||FSR: <ethn> The tournament book reflects that the game concluded "18 PK4 N(R4)N6ch" - i.e., exactly as ChessGames.com has it.|
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