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   Nov-22-14 Biographer Bistro <Ah, but while I'm here, I want to raise the topic of stub games again.> Our new feature of leaderboard editing was designed to make stub games obsolete. The final results of an event can now be known and displayed even if some of the games are missing. However, first ...
   Nov-22-14 chessforum (replies) <Whats the point, the actual game? or to display some nonsensical play on words?> Of course the game is the point. We wouldn't feature mediocre filled blitz game between 1800 players no matter how hilarious of a pun we have. I know a lot of games appear to be picked ...
   Nov-19-14 Carlsen vs Anand, 2014 (replies) Please keep the discussion on this page relevant to the game.
   Nov-15-14 Carlsen vs Anand, 2014 (replies) <Stonehenge> Thanks, we just put it in: E Kuhl vs Z Kasprzyk, 2014 .
   Nov-11-14 Chessgames Bookie chessforum (replies) In days of misspent youth, I've been to a few racetracks and have seen situations where the winning trifecta/superfecta had no money on it. It's against state gambling regulations to retain more than a certain percentage of the bettors' money, so they resort to a 2-out-of-3 ...
   Nov-08-14 Anand vs Carlsen, 2014 (replies) Fun fact: the top countries viewing this game right now, in order of visitor count: India, United States, Russia, United Kingdom, Philippines, Turkey, Germany, Indonesia, France, Netherlands, Brazil, Spain, Israel, Canada, and (of course) Norway. Welcome to all our new ...
   Nov-07-14 Carlsen-Anand World Championship (2014) (replies) Everybody is invited to come join us for the live broadcast and discussion the WCC. The first game ( Anand vs Carlsen, 2014 ) starts tomorrow at 7:00am USA/Eastern time.
   Nov-02-14 Jobava vs Mamedyarov, 2014 (replies) Congratulations to Dmitry Andreikin for winning the Tashkent Grand Prix with 7/11. We'll be broadcasting more chess soon. Thanks for coming!
   Nov-02-14 D Andreikin vs A Giri, 2014 (replies) This is the final round, but we're entirely unclear on when it starts. The official site says "game starts one hour earlier", although we've been informed it used to say "three hours earlier", and to further confuse the matter we just went through daylight savings in the USA.
   Nov-01-14 FIDE Grand Prix Tashkent (2014) (replies) Everybody is invited to join us at the live broadcast of Gelfand vs D Andreikin, 2014 .
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  alexmagnus: <> Was somewhat surprised not to have found the answer in the FAQ: is it possible to change the order in which the <game collections> (not the games themselves) are shown?

I have a series of collections on Carlsen in various World Championship cycles, and I'd like them to be shown in chronological order...

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Thanks so much for the detailed investigation and explanation, with protips. I have logged your suggestion for what to do if it happens again, and I will try it then.

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The order is alphabetical/numerical, which you probably already know.

Some of us put numbers in front to organize our collections. The code reads numbers first, and then the alphabet letters after that.

Premium Chessgames Member <alex> JFQ is right, we never made a way for sorting other than by title. Those sorting fields tend to confuse some people so when it was first designed we decided that simplicity trumps function in that case. In your specific case the answer would be to simply put the year first, but I understand that this isn't much of a solution if you have a huge library of game collections.
Premium Chessgames Member On totally new subject, somebody wrote to us and said <Your site is amazing, but there's one big problem. On my mobile phone, when I go to a game page, I cannot scroll.>

This is a well known problem that we're going fix, but meanwhile some users are inconvenienced. There is a very easy workaround, so let me quote my response here:


Hi ******:

I believe I know exactly what you are experiencing, and if I explain the situation I think it will help.

The viewer we use on mobile phones is called pgn4web and has some features built into it. One feature is called "hot squares" which means that if you click on certain squares, features engage. For example if you click on the e7 square the board will turn upside down. If you click on e8 it will bring up a small chess engine to evaluate the position. If you click on b8 you get the FEN code for the position you are viewing. And so forth.

The problem is this: that when you try to scroll on your phone, you inevitably touch one of those "hot squares" and that takes priority over the scrolling feature of your phone.

The workaround is simply to scroll by touching the very top of the page, outside the squares. I usually aim for the names of the players, or the orange bar on top. Then I can flick it down and arrange it perfectly on the phone. It actually takes a little bit of practice to get good at this, and there is a danger of accidentally clicking on a link, but once you know what you are trying to do it's pretty easy to accomplish.

I do hope this helps you, and thanks for your support of Chessgames.

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  kellmano: cheers for the offer of help <wannabe>.

There was no user tab on the java, but when I clicked the information button it said - Java standard edition version 8 update 25

My computer says it is - Windows 7 home premium.

Does any of that help you diagnose my problem? I've a nagging feeling it's related to my AVG, but I am totally unreliable for intuition re computers.

Premium Chessgames Member It could very well be related to AVG. After some quick research I found that there are a number of people claiming that AVG will block Java in many situations even though it shouldn't.

AVG does allow for disabling all of its web browsing protection (see but that's throwing the baby out with the bathwater. I certainly wouldn't want you to disable it in order to use Chessgames only to get malware from another site.

Offhand, an experiment could be to disable it temporarily, see if it fixes the problem, and whatever happens turn it back on immediately afterward. At least then you'd know if AVG is the problem.

The AVG support site ( seems pretty well run, so if you knew for certain that it was AVG as described above, I bet the people there could help you out.

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  notyetagm: <CG.COM>

Can we please have a forum for the <2014 UKRAINIAN CHAMPIONSHIP>? Thanks.




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  MarkFinan: I've just sent you some screenshots of what keeps happening during the live games. Am I the only person who is having these kinda problems??
Premium Chessgames Member Mark, our bandwidth gets maxed when we reach about 3000 simultaneous users, which is what we have now. The only advice I can give is that frantically pressing reload will make the problem worse and not better.
Premium Chessgames Member <Ukrainian Championship> We actually have the games (including the women section), we just need to put it on the homepage now.
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  MarkFinan: Okay, and thanks for answering. But I only keep pressing reload "frantically" when I know there's been a move and I just get a white screen. It works better than pressing it once and then waiting 15 seconds for a blank screen.
Nov-17-14  SugarDom: I'm surprised that your bandwith is so low. It shouldn't cost that much.
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  OhioChessFan: The live game is mislabelled:

Game starts Monday, 7:00am USA/Eastern - it is now 5:46am

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  MarkFinan: <<SugarDom: I'm surprised that your bandwith is so low. It shouldn't cost that much>>

I'm not sure what you mean by that sugardom. Do you mean it's my network?

Nov-19-14  SugarDom: No. I was talking to CG.
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  morfishine: <CG> Have you considered re-tooling the GOTD so the games presented are representative, from a quality standpoint, of being called "Game of the Day"? Open a separate segment of this site for "Fun puns" and have the Game of the Day become a location for exciting, high quality games.

Admittedly, a small percentage of the games presented as 'GOTD' are high quality; but as it is now, for the most part, your GOTD is a harbor for low quality games that make fun of somebody's name thru use of infantile word play. Kinda pathetic if you asked me

Premium Chessgames Member <morfishine> Yes, we've had suggestions like that for years.

The first thing to understand is that it's not so much "quality" but rather "interesting" which we're really shooting for. That's why you'll see short games, or a GM clobbering an amateur, absurd openings, and things like that.

In any case, I disagree with the characterization that only "a small percentage of the games presented" are of a high quality. A quite high percentage of them are high quality by most people's definition of the word.

When we have a pun like <How the Wes was Won> we go out and find a really good game in which Wesley So loses that's never been GOTD before. I think we found a very good one. When we did <The Beli of the Beast> it was far more restrictive: it had to specifically be a Beliavsky-Kasparov game. Happily there are about 30 to pick from and more than one of them are fabulous.

I know that not every day's game will be to everybody's taste, but we're not just grabbing games at random. Did we really make such horrible selections that you'd call those games "low quality"?

Game of the Day Archive

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  morfishine: <CG> Thanks for the reply, your basis of "interesting" vs quality games explains a lot.

IMHO, the term itself "Game of the Day", no matter the source, carries a connotation of quality. Here at <CG>, regarding the GOTD, too often this connotation is missing having been subordinated to the desire to post silly word-play or non-puns. Whats the point, the actual game? or to display some nonsensical play on words?

Ever week, there are plenty of GM level games played all around the World that would make great Games of the Day

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  zanzibar: Doing my collection for <Biel izt 1993> I came across this error message for the first time:

<ERROR: You are limited to 450 games per collection.>

Any possibility that <CG> can relax this restriction?

(<Biel izt 1993> has 481 games, including 14 stubs. I'm not sure what the level should be, let's say 1 or 2k maybe?)

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  Benzol: <chessgames> Regarding the 450 game limit what was the final ruling about the two collections that made up the New York 1889 tournament?

Game Collection: New York 1889

Game Collection: New York 1889, Part II

Oh, I've just realized that the two collections total 429 games.

Hopefully <suenteus po 147> will now complete the work he started earlier.

Premium Chessgames Member I think 1000 is overdoing it without a software upgrade. (The editing page surely has already become unfriendly without pagination.) Let's just take it one step at a timeó500 for now. Let me know when you run into need for a bigger one.
Premium Chessgames Member <Whats the point, the actual game? or to display some nonsensical play on words?> Of course the game is the point. We wouldn't feature mediocre filled blitz game between 1800 players no matter how hilarious of a pun we have. I know a lot of games appear to be picked "just for the pun" but the game should have some merit as well. I can't say we're entirely innocent of that temptation, and some real lemons have slipped through the cracks, but it's to be avoided.

<[Every] week, there are plenty of GM level games played all around the World that would make great Games of the Day>

Occasionally we feature a recently played game, but for the most part the games that are "in the news" are to be found in <Recent Kibitzing> and also on the homepage <Hot Games> feature. Right now you'll find yesterday's Anand vs Carlsen, 2014 at the top of Hot Games, as you'd expect. No matter what we have as GOTD, the top of Hot Games is truly the game of the day. It would be superfluous for us to make it GOTD.

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  OhioChessFan: <We wouldn't feature mediocre filled blitz game between 1800 players no matter how hilarious of a pun we have. >

Too bad. What's mediocre filled mean, anyway?

Nov-22-14  DPLeo: Hello <>, just wanted to let you know that GM Arkadij Naiditsch did not make a move yesterday.
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