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|Oct-22-18|| ||diceman: <Check It Out:
Think of all the heated discussions, friendly banter, GOAT disagreement, and numbers - the endless percentages, decimals, and stats - the groveling masses are waiting for this like a crazy yet patient mob outside a Wal-Mart on black Friday morning.>
I just want to know when the first game starts. :)
|Oct-22-18|| ||diceman: <Richard Taylor:
Well re politic and being politic, take a leaf out of New Zealand's Prime Minister, a woman, Jacinda Adern>
<Daniel in his dealing with me (not much) seemed not the kind of bigot - often ill-educated and naive or they are simply inherently right wing who often was a supporter or Trump>
Why don't you take a leaf from Jacinda Adern, before sharing your bigotry
of America, and its people?
|Oct-22-18|| ||Robed.Bishop: <DWOB: I wish I was one hundredth as witty as Edmund Blackadder :)>|
So do we.
|Oct-22-18|| ||Count Wedgemore: <Robed.Bishop: So do we.> LOL.|
And if he had one hundredth of his intellect it would've been even better.
|Oct-22-18|| ||Boomie: October 20
<Boomie: We are missing the Isle of Man or I can't find it.>
<Susan Freeman: Sargon is doing it after lunch :)>
Still no IoM. That must be quite a lunch he's having.
|Oct-22-18|| ||chessgames.com: <CheckItOut> Updating the weekly puzzles is a rather manual procedure that Sargon has forgotten to complete on time (Sunday night before midnight) on a few occasions. Sooner or later, he did correct the situation in each case, and he's now set himself a reminder, so it shouldn't happen again. |
In the future, this is one feature that could stand for some improvements and automation.
We apologize for the oversight and have taken steps to avoid repeating it...
|Oct-22-18|| ||chessgames.com: <Boomie:> Regarding the Isle of Man tournament, Sargon is currently processing a list of about a half dozen events for import into the database, and they should all be available by this evening (Monday EST).|
We apologize for the delay...
|Oct-22-18|| ||chessgames.com: <MrMelad> Thanks for the constructive suggestions. We'll take a look at adopting them.|
|Oct-22-18|| ||Check It Out: <Chessgames> Thanks for the update.|
|Oct-22-18|| ||offramp: <chessgames.com> I really think the Daily Puzzle could be done by someone else.|
I think you should give access rights to some other cg members. Not me because I would go nuts, but some responsible people.
|Oct-22-18|| ||Annie K.: Hmm, that's not a bad idea at all. Kevin could be given an interface to simply upload his submissions himself...? :)|
|Oct-22-18|| ||Susan Freeman: hmmm, why not?|
|Oct-22-18|| ||parisattack: Hello <Susan Freeman>|
Just my nickel's worth; perhaps less.:)
I was an active member here for 13 years. I decided not to re-up late last year.
The reason - the avalanche of off-topic, trolls and - as another user said - 'incivility.'
I am in the dark as to why folks would come to a CHESS website to engage in flame wars, talk politics, religion, music and so much more. There are dozens of forums for those topics. Typically, the Recent Kibitzing will show about 70% and higher non-chess discussions. I realize these are user's personal forum...but still.
I am in another chess forum, a Go game forum, a watch collector's forum and two stamp forums. Off-topic is simply unheard of save for a single 'off-topic' sub-forum...
Every year when I re-upped, I sent Daniel a laundry list of my suggestions for making CG.com better (at least for me, LOL!). He ALWAYS responded in depth That kind of caring is what made this website so special and unique of the many chess sites! You could feel the love!
Anyways, a couple of times we kicked around the idea of a 'Banish' mode, sort of an 'Ignore' on steroids where a member could select to see absolutely no sign of another member or user. I believe Daniel said it was possible save perhaps seeing someone's name or quote in another unbanished user's message...
Kibitzer's Cafe is good but personally I don't like to see Rogoff's forum hijacked; I think it should be wiped clean. As to moderators trying to keep threads on the straight and narrow - that is a good idea if it is administered properly Big IF...some things are too ingrained in the CG culture and the moderator would forever be playing whack-a-mole. Perhaps it could be accomplished over time; I dunno.
As long as I'm here hehe some minor suggestions ... 1) When going over a game, pulling it up, one could mouse over the names and see their ratings, 2) Some .doc (WORD) capabilities in formatting text, 3) There are some very strange names for many opening variations; certainly not standard. Many hypermodern openings are misnamed because of transposition moves. Instead of 'RETI' (as an example) it should be 'ENGLISH by transposition'. Perhaps ENGLISH(t) or some such.
I do wish you, <Sargon> and the CG.com team the very,very best carrying Daniel's project into the future.
|Oct-22-18|| ||al wazir: <parisattack: I decided not to re-up late last year. The reason - the avalanche of off-topic, trolls and - as another user said - 'incivility.'>|
You're right about that.
<I don't like to see Rogoff's forum hijacked; I think it should be wiped clean.> I think that's the wrong solution.
I post frequently on the puzzles and GOTD and occasionally on other games, always on topic. But I also post on the <Rogoff> page and (for very different reasons) the <Stumpers> page. I'm sure I spend more time on those two than all the other pages together.
My justification for that is that most of the people who post on this site are *smart*. People who frequent a chess site tend to be of above-average intelligence and well educated. That makes conversation with them on any subject worthwhile.
Unfortunately, some are as badly behaved as you say, especially on the <Rogoff> page. The cloak of anonymity emboldens them to write things they would never dare to say if they used their real names.
But the answer isn't to delete everything posted there. All that is necessary is to enforce the rules that <chessgames.com> has always claimed to adhere to, but often has disregarded.
By all means, *banish* offending individuals. By "banish" I mean suspend them from the site: temporarily the first time, and permanently for a second offense.
Calling another kibitzer insulting names is certainly a sufficient ground. Anyone who finds anything objectionable in any post should be able to get action against the offender by sending an e-mail to the administration.
Obviously this practice could wind up using an inordinate amount of administrators' time if it is abused, but there is a cure for that: suspend anyone who turns in a false alarm.
|Oct-22-18|| ||SugarDom: Parisattack is basically saying, if you donít make chessgames to suit my taste, Iím not gonna renew my premmie. ďYou got to protect my young sweet innocent ass from the uncivility of the internet.Ē
Kenneth Rogoff is probably the only thing keeping the site alive. It generates 10x the traffic that would have been lose otherwise. Many members who post there have premium memberships. And itís handy because of the volume of kibitz you have to search. KR page very nearly reflect the real divide of the world. Itís the reality.|
Please donít be selfish and hostage chessgames to your whims. Itís not possible for chessgames to please everyone.
|Oct-22-18|| ||zanzibar: Clearly, if some individuals still don't appreciate why the <thegoodneega> handle is racist, <CG> still has a problem.|
But let's put that aside, and adopt a wider perspective, where we have to admit that <CG> also has a problem going beyond just trollish behavior. This is simply because lots of well-meaning people often make posts with very little actual info.
Thus, the S/N can be rather low, even without troll posts, when looking for good information on <CG>. The bios and intros are often informative, but the real gems often lie buried in the comment sections.
Now, in general, the volume of any thread (player/tournament/opening) is low enough that one can always read from the start to finish in not too much time. But that's certainly not always the case.
E.g. consider the problem of finding truly informative posts here:
Robert James Fischer
There are 77 pages to read over - but certainly only a much smaller fraction if condensed to "useful" posts.
Or this guy:
Who has 875 pages.
The problem goes beyond the dilution of Rogoff... it really lies in all the high volume <CG> threads.
Consider how stale all the <Live Game> comments become soon after the game concludes.
(I've always wished <CG> injected the moves into the comment stream in order to make the live game comments' context more clear, anyways.)
My solution is to allow Biographers to upvote comments, and be able to filter select just those comments.
|Oct-22-18|| ||Susan Freeman: Points well taken. Thank you all. Much to ponder here.|
|Oct-23-18|| ||Tabanus: Why not copy over the Rogoff kibitzing (except the first two pages) to a Politics forum. Then it won't be lost. And Stumpers' kibitzing to a Math or Stats (or whatever) forum. CG should take a stand: do the non chess topics have a (major) place on this site, or do they not.|
|Oct-23-18|| ||FICSwoodpusher: <parisattack> Would you mind providing me with the details of this other chess forum?|
|Oct-23-18|| ||Richard Taylor: Dr O'Boogie I recall when that was on here. I for some reason never got to watch it. I watched a few episodes. Friends liked it a lot. My son likes Mr. Bean. I like the: "Are you gay." sketch and so on...I see Diceman is having a spassy...|
|Oct-23-18|| ||Richard Taylor: Delete all the crap on Roggoff.|
|Oct-23-18|| ||Richard Taylor: And include any crap I said on there as I talked a lot of it. It is a nightmare on there so I avoid it... We don't need it. I agree with Paris Attack... This IS a chess site...|
|Oct-23-18|| ||Tabanus: <Or this guy: Wesley So Who has 875 pages.>|
He has 7419 pages. Click on Archive [On] and you'll see. Fischer has 2111 pages. <z> may be aware, but many are not aware of this. Rogoff: 11174 pages!
|Oct-23-18|| ||Tabanus: CG has an option called <Child-safe mode (aka "Quiet Mode")> I tried it, but then cannot see the live page and the Bistro.|
What about an <Adult mode>? Not sure what should be in it :)
|Oct-23-18|| ||Keyser Soze: <My solution is to allow Biographers to upvote comments, and be able to filter select just those comments.>|
Filter in what basis? Ridiculous.
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