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   Mar-01-15 Biographer Bistro (replies) <Tabanus: <Retireborn> It would be interesting to know if Qi Jingxuan vs Timman, 1985 (with 4.Nh3) entered the database recently, and if so, who sent it and why or how it was accepted.> You can tell by the GID 1142917 that it's been in the database for a long, ...
   Feb-28-15 chessforum (replies) The submission was rejected because it was a "duplicate" for Kramnik vs Anand, 1993 . I know it seems like a bug to reject games that are move-for-move identical with others, knowing very well that GM draws occur all the time, but believe me when I say that all of the ...
   Feb-28-15 Aronian vs Nakamura, 2014 (replies) We are very sorry for a technical error here. The position intended is 39.? but a different position was displayed on the homepage. It's a bit late but we corrected the error. Again, our sincere apologies.
   Feb-22-15 N Ziaziulkina vs N Paikidze, 2010 (replies) Do we also infer that 18...c4 is really 18...c5?
   Feb-14-15 Chessgames Bookie chessforum (replies) <Oh, and I almost forgot to ask: when is Pay Day?> Excellent question. We will schedule Pay Day for this coming Wednesday, February 18th. For those new or who didn't get the memo, that means than an extra 1000 chessbucks will be handed out to everybody.
   Feb-14-15 Daniel Freeman (replies) <WannaBe: Inn'r'sting, birthday is not listed on the home page of "Birthdays". =))> It doesn't list patzers :-)
   Feb-13-15 Zurich Chess Challenge (2015) (replies) We've put the blitz games on a separate page: Zurich Chess Challenge (Blitz) (2015)
   Feb-09-15 GRENKE Chess Classic (2015) (replies) You can see the tiebreak games here: GRENKE Chess Classic (Tiebreak) (2015) .
   Feb-08-15 Caruana vs Carlsen, 2015 (replies) Apologies for technical problems regarding kibitzing this morning: everything should be working fine now.
   Feb-06-15 Tradewise Gibraltar (2015) (replies) Photos from the closing ceremony:
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  zanzibar: <<chessgames> <This situation has now been remedied. In short, you won't be running into headers that contradict the data as frequently.>>

This welcome bit of good news has not failed to catch "our" attention. Thx.

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  Annie K.: Yes, indeed!

BTW, I just noticed on the homepage that today's opening is called the 'Makagonov System' - presumably named after Vladimir Andreevich Makogonov? Would be nice to synchronize the spellings, in one direction or the other. :)

Feb-23-15  kamalakanta: It is Makogonov. This should be fixed.
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  notyetagm: <CG.COM>

Can we please have a forum for the <16TH EUROPEAN INDIVIDUAL CHESS CHAMPIONSHIP (EICC)>, which just started today in Jerusalem?


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  OhioChessFan: Some unsolicited personal advice: Next time send Snoochies packing, but keep Jasper.
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  Annie K.: Well, that would depend on how well the cats get along, really. ;s

When two cats are both active, like to play, and most importantly, like to play <with each other>, it's a pity to separate them. But if they are not good friends, separating them is ok, and then - if they are the social type - maybe find each a more compatible playmate.

OK, I'll try to stay out of Daniel's business for a bit now... um, <Daniel>, help with FIDE Grand Prix Tbilisi Round 9: Jobava - Vachier-Lagrave please? See email or Bookie forum for details - Vachier-Lagrave should be the winner.

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  Domdaniel: <CG> Thanks for your coverage of Bunratty, won by Wesley So, And the Classic, won by Bjorn Thorfinnsson.

But note that Bjorn and his IM brother Bragi often spell their surname in Icelandic, where a single letter, Thorn, stands for 'th'. It's the same letter that was once used in Old English - it looks a bit like a 'Y', which led to phrases like 'Ye Olde Shoppe'. But it's not a Y, it's Th.

The Bunratty site uses Thorn in several places. Chessgames (also correctly) usually has Thorfinnsson. But the homepage Bunratty pointer has 'Yorfinnsson', which is wrong.

Thanks, G/D.

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  zanzibar: <Domdaniel> Aha, you are a bit of a polyglot after all!

* * * * *

<chessgames> can I ask if I ever submitted a bunch of games for <Subotica izt (1987)>?

In other words, can your records be consulted so you could tell one way or the other if I did?

And if you could, would you please tell me?

Premium Chessgames Member <In other words, can your records be consulted so you could tell one way or the other if I did?> Yes. <And if you could, would you please tell me?> No, not by that name "Subotica."

<Annie> No problem payoff has been "undone". Just pay it off again.

<Domdaniel> I am familiar with the thorn, but just to be clear: there's nothing on our site for us to fix? Or do we have a Yorfinnsson somewhere that you're pointing out?

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  SwitchingQuylthulg: <cg> FIDE Grand Prix Tbilisi Round 9: Pick Three also needs fixing.

<thorn> On the CG front page it says <Bjorn Yuorfinnsson won this 10 player GM norm round-robin.> "Yuorfinnsson" should be Thorfinnsson.

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  Annie K.: Thanks <Switch>, I forgot that was one of the Pick Three games too.
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  Domdaniel: <CG> -- <Or do we have a Yorfinnsson somewhere that you're pointing out??>

Almost. The 'u' is superfluous.

As Switch says: New Games, Bunratty Chess Classic, has "Bjorn Yuorfinnsson won this 10 player GM norm round-robin."

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  zanzibar: Thanks <chessgames>, that's what I thought from seeing what's currently on <CG>. I must have gotten side-tracked worrying about reliability of sources.

You can expect a mini-deluge in the near future. I'm sure you're just quivering with anticipation!

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  Annie K.: Thanks, <cg> and <Switch>, business has been taken care of. ;)

<zanzibar: <<Domdaniel> Aha, you are a bit of a polyglot after all!>>

More than a bit, but he practices implausible deniability. :)

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  whiteshark: <> Do you have a problem with this:

<"The entirety of our translation in the feature article Alekhine on Munich, 1941 has been reproduced by without permission, a total of 1,325 words."> posted at

regarding Munich (1941) ?

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  Shams: Is there any way to know which users have tripped the PITA flag? I'm dying of curiosity, I can't lie.
Premium Chessgames Member I have more than one problem with that.

(Didn't we go through virtually the same thing with a Sport Illustrated reproduction a while back?)

Quoting Alekhine for the purpose of discussion is fine, but if you want to refer the reader to an entire online article, a link is all that's required.

Also, the copyright status on the work is unclear. Assuming Winter obtained permission to reproduce the article himself (which is required if you intend on translating it), the translation itself represents a separate creative effort. The owner of the original copyright maintains rights over both works, to which the copyright in the translation is subordinate. However, if the article is deemed to be in the public domain (which is quite possible under a variety of circumstances) then Winter would maintain the copyright on his particular translation. In either case, permission is required from at least one party.

Finally, with all respects to Winter for his tireless works, I have to question how good of a translation this particular article is. For example, the Spanish word "propaganda" is surely not best translated into English as "propaganda" due to the negative connotations that word has in modern English. I'm sure Alekhine intended what English speakers would call "advertising" or "promotion".

Premium Chessgames Member Good news: as suggested, you can now delete your own pun submissions.

For those who don't know how this works, this is the page where you can submit your puns Pun Submission Page

And this is the page where you can review puns that you've submitted (and now delete the lemons) Pun Submission Page

And voting is important too Pun Voting Booth

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  Penguincw: Ooh. Thanks for the feature. Just one question:

Is it possible to "edit" a submission by deleting a submission, and then re-submitting it as something slightly different?

In other words, if I delete a submission, is it possible to ever re-sumbit the game or pun again?

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  Annie K.: Kewl, thanks! I just deleted 8 of them. :D
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  Phony Benoni: <Penguincw> I just deleted a pun that had a typo, and was able to resubmit it immediately.

However, it occurs to me that this feature might be abused by a person resubmitting puns they thought had been unjustly ignored.

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  zanzibar: I submitted this game back in November, I think:

[Event "Biel izt (FIDE 1993)"]
[Site "Biel, SUI"]
[Date "1993.??.??"]
[Round "13"]
[White "Salov, Valery"]
[Black "Gelfand, Boris"]
[WhiteChessgamesID "13983"]
[BlackChessgamesID "13847"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[EventDate "1993.07.??"]
[PlyCount "21"]
[TimeControl "40/7200:20/3600:1800"]

1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.cxd5 cxd5 5.Nc3 Nc6 6.Bf4 Bf5 7.e3 e6 8.Bd3 Bxd3 9.Qxd3 Bd6 10.Bxd6 Qxd6 11.O-O 1/2-1/2

Submitted together with a few other games that were missing from <Biel izt 1993> that seem to have shown up.

In fact, there is this game:

Seirawan vs Granda Zuniga, 1993

also a 12-move GM draw.

Can <CG> check it's records to tell me what happened here?

Did I really submit the <Salov--Gelfand> game, and was it rejected for some reason?

Premium Chessgames Member The submission was rejected because it was a "duplicate" for Kramnik vs Anand, 1993.

I know it seems like a bug to reject games that are move-for-move identical with others, knowing very well that GM draws occur all the time, but believe me when I say that all of the alternatives we've explored are far worse.

I just forced its inclusion.

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  zanzibar: < [...] believe me when I say that all of the alternatives we've explored are far worse.>

Ouch! OK, follow-ups in the Bistro.

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  FSR: It's not a momentous thing, but why is Frederick Rhine shown as having 32 games, when the actual number is 33?
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