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|Mar-19-15|| ||chessgames.com: <JFQ> I'm not advocating showing quotes that are known to be wrong or misattributed, I just think it's interesting how the majority of misquotes are often more well stated that the original.|
The subject of wrong attributions will always be an issue. There are many chess quotes that are attributed to several different masters, and the truth it was likely said by some amateur. Quotes only get "legs" when you put an important name by them.
|Mar-19-15|| ||Annie K.: It's hard to be backwardly progressive around here... ;p|
|Mar-19-15|| ||disasterion: Very good point about the way quotations evolve; though their evolution is down to general interpretation rather than the original intent of the author, so I'd always incline towards being as accurate as possible.|
Re Philidor: <the pawns: they are the very life of this game> is just a translation from the first English edition of LíAnalyze des Echecs.
What Philidor said was <... les Pions: Ils sont lí‚me des Echecs.>
I'd translate <lí‚me> as <soul> - it's more striking, and seems more exact. It's also the version everyone knows. So perhaps it doesn't need to be corrected.
(Winter provides reproductions of the actual text in both French and English: http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/....)
|Mar-19-15|| ||zanzibar: First, thanks to <chessgames> for posting some nice portraits,|
Captain William Davies Evans
I think the Captain would be proud.
|Mar-19-15|| ||zanzibar: As far as quotations go, I'm not so strict as some of my esteemed fellow biographers.|
I tend to agree with several of the points <chessgames> makes.
I've draw the analogy between jazz and chess before, and this is another area where a parallel exists.
For a light, engaging, and informative read is a good thing, and can lead people into a deep, exhaustive, comprehensive treatment, if so inclined.
In jazz, having Porter's "Coltrane: His Life and Music"
doesn't lessen the need or value of Thomas' "Chasing the Trane"
And some measure of mythology is a welcome part of the folklore. Knowing there are inaccuracies in Brady's Fischer book is akin to those of Russell's "Bird Lives!"
The issue of translation always introduces some creative license, and such license is truly welcomed when exercised in the proper hands.
Compare Howard's version of "The Little Prince":
which loses all the charm contained in Katherine Wood's stellar, and poetic, version:
It would truly be a sad day if Woods' version were to disappear for the sake of exactness, for it is Woods who captures the spirit of the book best.
As far as the QotD (or QD for wannabe) - perhaps some semantic indication of the more questionable sources might suffice,
"Who said this is not exactly known" ~<But likely it was NN>
|Mar-19-15|| ||jessicafischerqueen: |
Thanks for this-
<It's hard to be backwardly progressive around here... ;p>
That's spot on, and I appreciate the humor. It's put me in a good mood this morning.
|Mar-20-15|| ||Fusilli: <Annie K.: It's hard to be backwardly progressive around here... ;p>|
lol. Literally, this made me laugh out loud.
|Mar-21-15|| ||Tabanus: <CG> Thanks for processing my slips! No big deal, but you left the page E H Price after transferring the games correctly to Hubert Ernest Price. |
If my kibitzing there gets lost, I can take it ;)
|Mar-21-15|| ||Phony Benoni: There appears to be something odd about games assigned to Nimzo-Indian, 4.e3, Main line (E59). Specifically, there aren't any. But when you plug the moves given into the Internet Explorer, this page is reached:|
|Mar-21-15|| ||chessgames.com: <Phony> Thanks for pointing that out, for some reason all of the E59 games were defined with the FEN for E58. There are also 3 other ECO codes with no games, we'll have to take a look at them.|
|Mar-22-15|| ||zanzibar: Another example, similar to <Alexander Alexander> is provided by <R. Smith>:|
Advanced Search: http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches...
( Kinda miss, see message:
<Sorry, we have no names that exactly match 'R SMITH' in our database.> )
EZ Search: search "r smith" (hit)
Actual player: R Smith (pid 34598)
|Mar-23-15|| ||zanzibar: Here's an example where <E-Z Search> fails, and <Advanced Search> must be used:|
<J Meyer> 15611
<J Meyer> 112832
The <E-Z Search> only finds 15611
search "j meyer"
|Mar-23-15|| ||Annie K.: <cg> curious about the disappearance of the photo from the player page of Vladas Jonovich Mikenas - this page was recently renamed from Vladas Ivanovich Mikenas. Could this have anything to do with why it has no photo now, or did you decide to take it down for some other reason?|
The Evans photo looks great, btw!
|Mar-23-15|| ||chessgames.com: Thanks for pointing that out, when we rename players like that we have to rename the graphic file as well. There's a program that searches for orphaned graphics but we don't run it very often.|
|Mar-23-15|| ||Annie K.: That explains things, thanks. :)|
|Mar-24-15|| ||zanzibar: The graphic doesn't use the pid?|
|Mar-24-15|| ||chessgames.com: No, it uses (stupidly) the name of the player. E.g. captainwilliamdaviesevans.jpg|
|Mar-24-15|| ||zanzibar: Ha - I do stuff like that too.|
|Mar-25-15|| ||Annie K.: <cg> One Aeroflot coming right up! :) |
|Mar-27-15|| ||Tabanus: <CG> The page Kasparov - Karpov World Championship Match (1990) has Hjartason, should be Hjartarson.|
|Mar-27-15|| ||Paint My Dragon: <Re:HJARTARSON> Should also be Johann, not Johan.|
|Mar-28-15|| ||zanzibar: Another Pitt Archive file I'd like to have:
Anybody have it?
|Mar-28-15|| ||Penguincw: Been kinda quiet here, so I'll break the silence with a random question:|
Has anyone ever noticed the little "slider" on the bottom right hand side of the kibitzing box? It's probably been there forever, but I just noticed it today, after nearly 9500 posts. :| I then experimented with it, and was wondering, can it stretch forever?
I also noticed it's in other places like game collections and preferences, and while it doesn't remember any modifications you made, it can adjust accordingly to the amount of text?
Does anyone actually use it?
|Mar-29-15|| ||TheFocus: <Penguincw> <Does anyone actually use it?>|
We will now.
|Mar-29-15|| ||chessgames.com: That thing that lets you resize your text boxes was a browser innovation that's a few years old now. It has nothing to do with Chessgames per se. I'm not sure where it started; I first saw it on Safari but now I've seen it on other browsers as well.|
I use it quite a lot for some forms, like player biographies, where the text content vastly exceeds the window that it's in.
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