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   Nov-26-14 chessforum (replies) <Fusilli> Maybe you already know, but if you go to Search Kibitzing you can search for your username by searching for <Fusilli> like this: Search Kibitzing But that will include posts that you made yourself. Here's the trick if you want to see posts that mention ...
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  zanzibar: By the way, I just noticed that these super-sized tournaments are a recent phenomena, starting from around 2008.
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  zanzibar: Another idle-moment suggestion...

To put the number of games at the top and bottom of the list of games in a collection - for both editing and viewing.

At present the number of games only shows up when viewing all user game collections:

zanzibar's Game Collections

or at the bottom of a game collection list when editing:

But nowhere for outside users to see when viewing it:

Game Collection: Biel Interzonal 1993 (FIDE)

(I wanted to see how many games were missing from the 481 total - 14 stub = 467 games. Only two more games to go!)

Premium Chessgames Member <But nowhere for outside users to see when viewing it> That's a good point. I just fixed that.
Premium Chessgames Member K ANNOUNCEMENT K

<Re: the Upcoming Holiday Present Hunt>

We've decided that we will welcome puzzle suggestions from members for the annual Chessgames Present Hunt Clues Page.

A few notes:

1. It's OK if you submit a puzzle and also play in the contest. However, obviously, you cannot solve your own puzzle. In fact, you are strictly forbidden to give the slightest hint while the puzzle is online; even tiny things like "You're on the wrong track" or "Google won't help you" are hints.

2. We trust that that nobody will cheat and whisper the answer to a friend. But just to be on the safe side, we're going to avoid giving out the "special prizes" to user-submitted puzzles.

3. To submit puzzles you should be familiar with the contest and have a feel for the diverse nature of clues we give. If you haven't been on this site for a year, you should review the many years of the contest from our Chessgames Present Hunt Clues Page.

4. The puzzles must be solvable, preferably without "hints". We want puzzles that are hard, but not "hard for the wrong reasons." We'd rather have an easy puzzle that's cracked in 5 minutes than a really obscure one that lasts for more than a day. The sweet spot is a puzzle that lasts 2-6 hours, but experience has shown this is very difficult to achieve.

5. Some puzzles that seem almost impossible are easily solvable simply by pasting their contents into Google and studying the results. It's hard to avoid this, but we try to. Before suggesting a puzzle run it through that test and see if Google cracks it instantly.

6. We don't like puzzles that easy to solve only when you have a premium membership. For example, if the Opening Explorer is employed in finding the solution it should involve the first few moves so that non-premium members can get at the answer.

7. If your puzzle needs some graphical representation, that's no problem, just describe what you need and we'll design it from there.

8. Please don't be upset if we don't use your suggestion.

9. Send suggestions to We will let you know if your idea is used so you can be on the lookout for it.

Nov-22-14  Penguincw: Just a random question that came to my head: what if I submit a puzzle, and someone submits a better puzzle with the same answer, and that game ends up being used? Can I claim the prize upon that game?
Premium Chessgames Member <GOTD has not changed for today.> Oops! Thanks Phony.

<Penguincw> I don't know, that sounds like a pretty crazy coincidence. I guess it might happen if two people think of a clue that solves to the first 7 digits of pi, or something like that. (That would take you to C Lutz vs J Tihonov, 2006.) I guess we'll cross that bridge if we come to it.

Nov-23-14  MissScarlett: Can you explain how often you update the site with regard to submitted games and corrections? I appreciate that you cannot simply wave through all submissions without review, but it's frustrating not knowing when, or if, one's contributions will appear.
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  Caissanist: My apologies if this has been mentioned before, but isn't User: Geordi is a spambot, or perhaps a spam person?
Nov-23-14  Alien Math: Adding preview then dot, <preview.> before from Geordi kibitz shows <Preview of This TinyURL redirects to:>

findings of <> appear as German survey site

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  whiteshark: <User: Geordi> It's a chess-related questionaire (in English; on exchange-sacs) from a German University project.

Where else would you look for this special 'subject group'? (and 20 post isn't such a big number)

<spambots> ThinK about posting thousands of Y-tub music links at the Kibitzer's Café...

Premium Chessgames Member <MissScarlett: Can you explain how often you update the site with regard to submitted games and corrections?> From the admin's point of view both processes look very similar. The admin sees a list of contributions which can be sorted by username, size, type, and most importantly by "time waiting."

I'm actually processing games right now so I'll give you a little window into what the process looks like.

I see this poor fellow who's been waiting since 2013 and I review his submission. It's been reviewed earlier this year without decision, now it's time for me to finalize it. His first game looks like this:

[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2004.01.01"]
[Round "3"]
[White "Loui J."]
[Black "NN"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[BlackElo "?"]
[ECO "D02"]
[TimeControl "0"]

1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Bc4 d6 4. d4 Be6 5. d5 Bc8 6. Bxf4 g6 7. Nc3 Bg7 8. Qd2 Nd7 9. Nf3 a5 10. O-O-O Ngf6 11. e5 dxe5 12. Nxe5 O-O 13. Nc6 bxc6 14. dxc6 Qe7 15. cxd7 Nxd7 16. Bd5 Rb8 17. Bxc7 Ba6 18. Bxb8 Rxb8 19. Bxf7+ Qxf7 20. Qxd7 Qf4+ 21. Qd2 Qb4 22. Qd5+ Kh8 23. Kd2 Qf4+ 0-1

(Note that it doesn't really say "NN" but I don't want to embarrass who is most likely the submitter. It does however say "Loui J.")

I have several complaints. The [Event "?"] and [Site "?"] is pretty shoddy. No ratings, so I wonder how strong they are. I play through a King's Gambit, it has the typical swashbuckle you expect from that opening. But nothing special that I can see. If you want a game like this to be inserted it would help if you filled out the comments, like "To my knowledge this is the first time 12.Nxe5 has ever been played." or "Black has been a tournament director in Wisconsin for over 50 years" or something that explains why it should be included.

Verdict: rejected.

It sort of makes me feel bad, because this guy might have typed the game in by hand, but it doesn't meet our standards. I take solace in the fact that I'm not deleting his contribution, just shuttling it to a backup directory of old forgotten submissions. Conceivably one day this could rise from the grave in an upcoming feature.

Now it's clear if I continue this, I might never get up to the Sep/Nov 2014 submissions, so I scroll to the top of the list and find somebody who's been waiting for a while, but not eons. So glancing at the top of the list, I see waustad. Been waiting for a month. OK, waustad's turn it is. Only one game:

[Event "Steirische Landesliga 2014/2015"]
[Site "Verschiedene"]
[Date "2014.10.11"]
[Round "2"]
[Board "1"]
[White "Moser, Eva"]
[Black "Meszaros, Michal"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B50"]
[WhiteElo "2440"]
[BlackElo "2408"]
[PlyCount "75"]
[EventDate "2014.09.27"]
[EventType "team"]
[EventRounds "11"]
[EventCountry "AUT"]
[WhiteTeam "SV Schachamazonen Graz"]
[BlackTeam "SPG Horn Ratten-Krieglach"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. Bc4 a6 4. a4 Nc6 5. O-O Nf6 6. Re1 e6 7. Bf1 Be7 8. c3 e5 9. d4 Qc7 10. d5 Nd8 11. b4 O-O 12. bxc5 dxc5 13. Na3 Ne8 14. Nc4 f6 15. Qb3 Nf7 16. Qb6 Rb8 17. Be3 Bg4 18. Nfd2 Rc8 19. f3 Bd7 20. Nb3 f5 21. Qxc7 Rxc7 22. Nb6 Nf6 23. Nxd7 Nxd7 24. exf5 c4 25. Nd2 Nd6 26. g4 Bh4 27. Red1 Nf6 28. Nb1 h6 29. Na3 Rfc8 30. Rab1 Rd7 31. h3 Kf7 32. Rb4 a5 33. Rbb1 Ke7 34. Bb6 Ke8 35. Rb2 Bg3 36. Bxa5 Ra8 37. Bb4 Rxa4 38. Nxc4 1-0

Beautiful. I play through it just to make sure the PGN works, not so much to judge the play quality. The white player is famous, the black player's name rings a bell.

Verdict: inserted. I wish they all could be that easy.

Note that I'm not processing game-by-game but rather member-by-member. So if you uploaded a game yesterday it could easily be inserted today, along with all of your other games that you've been waiting on. (I see you've been waiting since the 20th. We'll get to them soon.)

I went through those two just to give you a flavor of the process. It's very pell mell, I know. Comes to mind that old saying about people who enjoy sausages — they shouldn't see how they are made.

<I appreciate that you cannot simply wave through all submissions without review, but it's frustrating not knowing when, or if, one's contributions will appear.>

I sympathize and it's clear that this is not an efficient way to work. We'll have a better system one day. It's my belief that this job can only be accomplished effectively by crowdsourcing.

Premium Chessgames Member <MissScarlett> One more thing: I notice that a lot of your corrections involve changes to the date and/or round numbers of the games.

Are you aware that if you were a Chessgames Editor you could change this information without the need for Librarian action? Look at the first section, "GAME EDITING", in the Chessgames Editor Guide.

Becoming an editor is entirely voluntary and I've never asked that anybody volunteer, but I can say this much: if you email me to ask to become an editor, I would be inclined to approve you.

Premium Chessgames Member <User: Geordi> We've always been friendly toward research efforts based on Chessgames data and Chessgames members. Just recently we donated some data to a group at MIT who produced those cool live statistics during Millionaire Chess. Unfortunately this fellow is going about it the wrong way. I'm sure he's not a spambot, I see a sincere chess researcher. Nevertheless, it's spamming by definition. I wrote him an email to explain that.
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  Stonehenge: <[Site "Verschiedene"] >

Verschiedene is German for various.

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  zanzibar: Hey, <chessgames>, I just submitted a small batch of <Carolus> games for <Biel 1993>.

I stripped out all PGN headers like these, thinking it made life on <CG> easier:

<[ECO "B50"]
[WhiteElo "2440"]
[BlackElo "2408"]
[PlyCount "75"]
[EventType "team"]
[EventRounds "11"]
[EventCountry "AUT"]
[WhiteTeam "SV Schachamazonen Graz"]
[BlackTeam "SPG Horn Ratten-Krieglach"] >

So, I can just leave them in? That's better for me...

(Also - you actually play over each game by hand? Do you have also have a program check for legal PGN?)

Premium Chessgames Member <So, I can just leave them in? That's better for me...> Yes, we don't care. The nonstandard PGN tags won't show up in the final version online, but it doesn't do any harm to include them.

<Also - you actually play over each game by hand? Do you have also have a program check for legal PGN?> Not each and every game: if somebody submits a batch of 40 games we might play through the first two or three to make sure things looks kosher.

Yes, there are multiple layers which check for valid PGN. In spite of that there are still a few quirky things that you can do to get bad PGN into the database, for example neglecting to use the "x" to denote a capture.

Premium Chessgames Member
  john barleycorn: < Stonehenge: <[Site "Verschiedene"] >

Verschiedene is German for various.>

"miscellaneous" is a better translation.

Nov-24-14  Alien Math: <john barleycorn: < Stonehenge: <[Site "Verschiedene"] >

Verschiedene is German for various.>

"miscellaneous" is a better translation.>

A form of verschieden, variety, various or different, common usage in English could be used are miscellaneous form

Premium Chessgames Member
  notyetagm: <CG.COM>

Can we please have a forum for the recently completed <4TH CHINESE RAPID MASTERS>?





Nov-26-14  Alien Math: Rant page has been moved to the Carlsen page
Premium Chessgames Member
  kellmano: Qatar masters has started and is very strong:

Premium Chessgames Member
  virginmind: I found out late about this and it's ending tomorrow. Anyway, looks like a down-grade format, as compared to participants from last years.
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  Fusilli: Could someone enlighten me on how to set up a notification message (if such a thing is possible) when my username comes up in a post? Often people reply to my posts and I fail to notice...

Is this possible? Thanks!

Premium Chessgames Member <Fusilli> Maybe you already know, but if you go to Search Kibitzing you can search for your username by searching for <Fusilli> like this:

Search Kibitzing

But that will include posts that you made yourself. Here's the trick if you want to see posts that mention you, that weren't posted by you: search for <-user:Fusilli Fusilli>

Search Kibitzing

If you really want to be a "super user" then you can go to Menu Configuration Page and add a line in the "EXTRAS" called "self-search" that links to the above. Now you can search for yourself at any time from any page.

Premium Chessgames Member
  Fusilli: <CG> Thank you! I knew the search feature, but had not noticed the self-exclusion trick. That will make it cleaner.
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