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Dec-07-20
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  Tabanus: <GC> Patricia Peper vs G E Pearce, 1944., congrats :)
Dec-07-20
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  Stonehenge: <Tab>

If you're interested :)

Lasker vs W R Lowrie, 1903

If we got the right guy, I would like to know the preferred spelling.

Dec-08-20
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  Tabanus: <Stonehenge> William Isaac Lourie should be OK, see kibitzing.

There is a family tree having his father as <Mordechai "Marcus Simon" Lurie 1859–1930 Birth Dec 1859 • Kaunas, Kauno, Lithuania>. The family came to the US in 1888, and William may have been born in Lithuania.

Dec-08-20
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  Stonehenge: Thank you very much!
Dec-08-20
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  Tabanus: <The family came to the US in 1888> Umm no ...

Mordechai/Marcus came in 1885, his wife + children (incl. William) in 1892, if one relies on the 1900 census.

Dec-08-20
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  Tabanus: Wililam born in Lithuania according to US Social Security Applications and Claims Index (claim in 1949).

<hemy> It seems we have one more chess-playing Litvak: William Isaac Lourie.

Dec-09-20  hemy: <Tabanus> Thanks for discovering one more Litvak chess player. I will check out your comments on the page William Isaac Lourie
Dec-10-20
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  GrahamClayton: The database has 1 game by player "Arakelova":

Arakelova

There is also a player Asatour Arakelov:

A Arakelov

I think "Arakelova" is actually "Arakelov, A", a reference to Asatour Arakelov.

Should I submit a correction slip to merge the Arakelova game under Arakelov?

Dec-10-20
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  Tabanus: IMO, not without any more proof.
Dec-10-20  cameosis: does anybody know how long it takes chessgames to respond to a volunteer bio editor application?

i’ve sent them an email on december 6, but have received neither a yes or a no -> is the address they list in their »call for editors« correct?

»if you are not a chessgames editor but would like to participate in the process, you may volunteer by emailing chess@chessgames.com. please describe your skills and resources as a chess historian, database expert, etc. you must be proficient at the english language.«

Dec-10-20
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  jessicafischerqueen:

<cameosis> That is indeed the correct email address, although there were some recent problems with the owners/admins having access to one of the site emails for a time- I believe that problem has since been fixed, but just in case, I posted your request on the cg.com forum:

chessgames.com chessforum (kibitz #34647)

Dec-10-20  cameosis: <jessicafischerqueen> wow, thanks for the support! :D
Dec-11-20
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  Stonehenge: <I think "Arakelova" is actually "Arakelov, A">

I don't think so, her opponent's name is Sarkizova. So it's more likely that Arakelova is right.

<There is also a player Asatour Arakelov>

Source please.

Dec-11-20  cameosis: <stonehenge> biographical background for asatour arakelov, mentioning that he won a prize at a championship, which is not further specified:

https://www.tributearchive.com/obit...

Dec-11-20  cameosis: in this article about lyudmila kantorovich (married name lyubarskaya), he’s pictured second from left in the background, together with the participants of the 23rd women’s ussr championship, held in baku in 1963 (his birth place).

chess-rostov.ru/pages/3/Людмила%20Любарская

Dec-11-20
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  Stonehenge: Thanks, but that still doesn't mean he is A Arakelov.
Dec-11-20  cameosis: that’s not what i was saying and that’s not what you asked. you asked for a source that there is a player called asatour arakelov -- which you got.
Dec-11-20  cameosis: i’d be interested in the primary source for this game, which was played in the qualifying tournament held in bălți (bельцы), moldova -- who submitted the game?

Tukmakov vs A Arakelov, 1977

Dec-11-20
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  Tabanus: Probably same as submitted URS-ch otbor (1977).
Dec-11-20  cameosis: <tabanus> and arakelov is the only one listed without a first name, damn … XD
Dec-12-20
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  Paint My Dragon: In case anyone is wondering, 'Otbor' is a shortened version of <Otborochny>.

This was the tournament (starting sometime in the early 70s) that decided which players would qualify for the Higher League and First League Finals of the Soviet Championship.

Rusbase has <A Arakelov> in this event, but no further suggestion as to his full name. I think they have 153 games, as against the 62 shown here at CG.

Dec-12-20  cameosis: thanks for the additional info. first quick search didn’t drop anything of substance.

given that he was an ethnic armenian, his surname was actually arakelian (which i missed the first time around in the obituary) -- »arakelov« is the russified version, similar to kasparian = kasparov.

Dec-12-20
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  GrahamClayton: M Laffin

The Central California Chess Voice, June-July 1972, p. 4 has a reference to a "Michael Laffin", who won the A Section of the Central Californian Chess Association Congress. Is this strong enough evidence for a correction slip to be submitted?

Dec-13-20
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  Stonehenge: I have already changed his name. Chessbase has that game. Played in 1999, not 1968.
Dec-13-20
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  Stonehenge: Brixey died in 1993, so that's not possible.
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