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| Mar-31-24 | | Chessist: What are all these simultaneous games supposed to be useful for? It becomes increasingly difficult to find a player's games from a particular tournament if you first have to scroll through dozens of pages of simultaneous games. |
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Apr-01-24
 | | MissScarlett: Who is this heretic? |
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Apr-01-24
 | | jnpope: <<Chessist:> What are all these simultaneous games supposed to be useful for?> Some players rank high enough in history that any game played by them should be preserved, not to mention some folks on CG feel that any pre-1900 game should be preserved. And
Joseph Henry Blackburne definitely ranks high enough that any game played by him is of historic interest. <It becomes increasingly difficult to find a player's games from a particular tournament if you first have to scroll through dozens of pages of simultaneous games.> There are several ways to remedy this "problem", the first is to use the new games table view for that player and limit the <Game Type> to CLASSICAL:
[unknown player] (CG should fix that link text, eh?)
The second route would be to use the Tournament Index and find the event, then you can click the name of the player in the "participants" box to filter down to just that player's games:
3rd BCA Congress, London (1887)/Joseph Henry Blackburne
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Apr-01-24
| | jnpope: Personally I'd like to see the CG programmer add filtering to the older layout (I still think the new games table view layout is hideous looking) and add some filtering options to the Tournament Index (Matches vs Tournaments vs Exhibitions) but he's probably got enough on his plate keeping the site functioning (i.e. maintenance) vs improving things, so I won't bitch too much. |
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Apr-01-24
| | jnpope: And here's another Blackburne game, my database indicates that I never got around to "solving" the gamescore:
http://www.chessarch.com/excavation...
Any brave soul care to take a stab at it? |
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Apr-01-24
 | | mifralu: <jnpope>
[Event "Simul, 19b (+17 -0 =2)"]
[Site "Art Gallery Chess Club, Newcastle ENG"]
[Date "1894.11.12"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Blackburne, Joseph Henry"]
[Black "Lowes, J.H."]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "C45w"]
[EventDate "1894.11.12"]
[Source "Newcastle Weekly Chronicle, 1894.11.17"] 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 exd4 4.Nxd4 Bc5 5.Be3 Qf6 6.c3 Nge7 7.Nd2 d6 <8.N2b3> 8...Bb6 9.Bb5 O-O 10.O-O Ne5 11.Be2 Qg6 12.f3 c5 13.Nb5 Bh3 14.Rf2 a6 15.Qxd6 axb5 16.Qxe5 Nc6 17.Qg3 Be6 18.Qxg6 hxg6 19.Bxc5 Bxb3 20.Bxb6 Bc4 21.Bxc4 bxc4 22.Rd2 Ne5 23.a3 Ra6 24.Bd4 Nd3 25.Kf1 Rd8 26.Rad1 b5 27.g3 Re6 28.Kg2 f5 29.exf5 gxf5 30.Kf1 Rde8 31.Bf2 g5 32.a4 bxa4 33.Ra1 Ra6 34.Bd4 Rea8 1/2-1/2 |
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| Apr-01-24 | | Alan McGowan: Blackburne's simul, Glasgow 1892:
John McLean Finlayson 30 March 1849, Glasgow to 01 June 1915, Glasgow. James Greenlees 1833, Paisley SCO to 07 January 1914, Gourock, SCO. (The only Greenlees I have noted.) William Kemp 1859, Falkirk, SCO to 11 December 1931, Larbert, SCO. |
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Apr-01-24
| | jnpope: Thanks! I do so greatly enjoying waking up to a solution. |
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Apr-01-24
| | jnpope: And the Mystery Scots are updated. I had checked https://www.chessscotland.com/docum... but couldn't find them listed. Is there a master list elsewhere on the site? |
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| Apr-01-24 | | Alan McGowan: Mystery Scots: there are no lists on the CS website, but I have spreadsheets of names for Glasgow CC
Edinburgh CC (1822-1967 Members' Roll)
Scotland
Women
It's an ongoing project. |
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Apr-01-24
 | | Sally Simpson: Hi Alan,
"Edinburgh CC (1822-1967 Members' Roll) "
Having a clear out and found an Edinburgh Chess Club Membership book for 1979-80. It was something they did every year. Everyone was given one and everyone mislaid it. It has over 90 members names, full address's and tel numbers. I'm seeing a lot of well kent faces. A lot joined in 1972. I'm there with the classic address: c/o The Edinburgh Chess Club. I'll scan the pages and send them on if you don't have one already. |
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| Apr-01-24 | | Alan McGowan: Please do send, Geoff. I don't have it. |
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| Apr-01-24 | | whiteshark: So Roger Paige got <Ullrich,Herbert> wrong, too? https://web.archive.org/web/2009122... |
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| Apr-01-24 | | BarakSaltz: Nobody responded to my message in the Hardman Montgomery thread regarding Montgomery being the possible author of the Blue Book (American remix of Staunton's Handbook). The book is a good example of PGN format being used in a Project Gutenberg book. https://www.gutenberg.org/files/163... I was sort of curious about McCabe. |
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Apr-01-24
| | Sally Simpson: Hi Alan, Done.
Hi BarakSaltz,
That is good how the PGN format appears. My limited resources show nothing about McCabe. 4...f5 does not appear in the Oxford Encyclopedia of Chess Games. I was wondering if perhaps there was was source to the game. There is a John J. McCabe who pops up on a Morphy page. http://www.edochess.ca/batgirl/anot... Other thank that nothing, but thank you for the link. |
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Apr-02-24
 | | Tabanus: On P H Coldwell vs Marshall, 1907, is it Frank? Maybe jnp of MissS can check BNA for Northern Weekly Gazette, 14 December 1907, p. 10. I can only see this: < Coldwell v. Marshall.-1 P.K4, P.K4; 2 KLKB3, ' - '133, 3 8.84, 8.84 (Gitmeo Piaho); 40.0, P.Q3; •• . R., T. 7Kt5 6 P Q 3, P.KR3; 7 13.K3 ...> which may look like the game score. |
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Apr-02-24
 | | Stonehenge: <BarakSaltz>
About your game submissions: you also need to put 1-0 or 0-1 after the last move if it was mate. |
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Apr-02-24
| | jnpope: <Tabanus>, the <Cheltenham Chronicle>, 1907.12.07, p7, gives the exact same block of games found in the <Chess Amateur>, v2 n15, December 1907, p82, which is not surprising as they share the same editor. The <Northern Weekly Gazette>, 1907.12.14, p10, gives the same block less the NN-NN game given after the Blake-Lasker game. No new information from either newspaper source. |
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Apr-02-24
| | MissScarlett: <the <Cheltenham Chronicle>, 1907.12.07, p7, gives the exact same block of games found in the <Chess Amateur>, v2 n15, December 1907, p82, which is not surprising as they share the same editor.> The editor of the <Chess Amateur> in the early years was, according to Harding's <British Chess Literature to 1914>, a <William Moffatt>. The book's section on the <Cheltenham Chronicle> doesn't mention Moffatt - unsurprising, since it only mentions the Chronicle's column from 1914 onwards when it was conducted by William Shelley Branch. The <Coldwell - Marshall> game's appearance in the <CA> doesn't differ from the Chronicle - Frank Marshall isn't specified. If it is Frank Marshall, 1905 as the year, being the most recent visit, is the likeliest, but I wouldn't bet on it. |
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Apr-02-24
| | Tabanus: Hmpf ok. |
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Apr-02-24
| | MissScarlett: < have no idea about Bulley.> Liverpool CC reports have an <M> and a <AK> Bulley. https://www.liverpoolchessclub.co.u... |
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Apr-02-24
| | Stonehenge: They also have a T.R.
Could be Arthur Kilpin Bulley and Thomas Raffles Bulley. |
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Apr-04-24
| | jnpope: Thanks for the Bulley info. Still not sure which Bulley was partnered with Blackburne. I'll have to go back and read the surrounding columns for any clues. |
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Apr-04-24
| | MissScarlett: Very likely <A K>. He beat Blackburne in a simul on October 24th 1891, and later that evening, partnered him in a game, left unfinished, with Cairns, Miniati and Dod. In 1894, he was elected club president, so his seniority is not in doubt. |
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Apr-04-24
| | jnpope: Another clutch of Blackburne games (some with unknown Brits):
Blackburne vs Weightman, 1878
Blackburne vs T H Piper, 1878
Blackburne vs J Tarrant, 1878
Blackburne vs Carl Sipman, 1878
Blackburne vs Heap, 1878
Blackburne vs Samuel Walter Earnshaw, 1879
I suspect the Heap game is from an exhibition, but the source provides no indication so I've left it as "Casual" for now. |
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