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| Dec-15-04 | | northbridge: Why not have the US Champion play the Russian Champion in a match? :-) |
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| Dec-15-04 | | percyblakeney: Well done by Nakamura, it's not his fault that Karjakin could have played better. When it comes to promising prodigies, I think it's hard to compete with Radjabov. He did beat both Anand and Kasparov in less than 40 moves with black when he was 16 years old during 2003 (and in prestigious tournaments as well). He hasn't accomplished anything similar to that this year (even though he reached the semi-final in the FIDE WC), but I'd still consider him not only to be the best of the above named players at the moment, but also the most promising for the future. |
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| Dec-15-04 | | iron maiden: It's difficult to call Radjabov "the most promising for the future" when he's almost eighteen already. In evaluating Radja's performance against his fellow prodigies, we must consider that he has a lot more experience against elite-level players than Nakamura, Karjakin or Carlsen. |
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| Dec-15-04 | | percyblakeney: Almost eighteen isn't that much... I just think that few players will be able to reach similar results as Radjabov did at sixteen, even though that probably is an unfair comparison for the others. But if Nakamura keeps improving and Radjabov keeps staying on the same level the former might soon be a better candidate for a future top five position. |
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| Dec-15-04 | | acirce: Carlsen is the most promising. This match confirmed Karjakin's and Nakamura's shaky play, in some sense Carlsen's is already more mature, although overall it's obviously worse than at least Nakamura's. Radjabov has meanwhile come to a standstill. |
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| Dec-15-04 | | iron maiden: <in some sense Carlsen's is already more mature> And which one is that? |
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| Dec-15-04 | | yoozum: <percyblakeny>, radjabov DID beat kasparov with black, but he did NOT outplay him. in fact, wasn't kasparov doing really well only to make a horrific blunder. yes, the loss is kasparov's fault entirely, but radjabov winning this game was mostly a stroke of fortune; i don't think he won it by his own accord. |
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 | | keypusher: <yoozum>, GK seems to have gotten a lot of people to believe that he was crushing radjabov only to make a horrific blunder, but a lot of kbitzers didn't see it that way: Kasparov vs Radjabov, 2003 |
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| Dec-15-04 | | SnoopDogg: <in fact, wasn't kasparov doing really well only to make a horrific blunder. > He definitely outplayed Anand. When you gain a dynamic advantages, an initiative, make positional sacrifices especially your queen!, to beat the world #2 is enough alone. But to top it all off it was with the black pieces! Besides this, Radjabov is the most promising I think. |
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| Dec-16-04 | | acirce: <iron maiden> For instance, he's not generally getting into bad or even lost positions just to save them and win due to what seems like sheer willforce. I'm not valuing it per se, but if Nakamura is going to reach higher, that is not going to work. Carlsen generally seems more solid and his openings are sounder. |
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| Dec-16-04 | | Shams: that`s just your pro-Scandinavian bias, acirce! :)
actually I agree with you about Nakamura`s openings not looking as sound as they could be -- but at his age, I think that`s actually a good thing. if you play only the theoretically best lines when you are developing, maybe you won`t form your own opinions about what works and what doesn`t. I think Nakamura is very smart to play many different lines, even if some of them are dubious. He can always tighten up his repertoire later. For now, though, why not be creative? |
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| Dec-16-04 | | acirce: Not sure, but that may of course be a point. |
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| Dec-16-04 | | igorsky: Does anyone know how many points naka will get for thrashing Karjakin in this lackluster performance, even though he fought hard? |
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| Dec-16-04 | | acirce: 11.4 it seems, but I assume he won't get them until April. |
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| Dec-16-04 | | igorsky: thanks |
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| Dec-16-04 | | kasim: I spoke number of GMs they are agree that this Naka-Karjakin match didn't seem to be the match of GM's. They were making mistake in every other move. I think it is really hard to evaluate their real perfomance by this match. |
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| Dec-16-04 | | square dance: <kasim> i agree with you and those gm's 100%. although entertaining, it was a low quality match. |
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| Dec-16-04 | | iron maiden: Yes, it wasn't the best chess we've seen this year. Nakamura really seemed exhausted, and Karjakin's just been hit-or-miss lately. We know that both of these kids are capable of better. |
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| Dec-17-04 | | PeterFletcher: According to the record (http://aacevedo.galeon.com/), they also played some blitz games after the match. Karjakin won 4-0 Nice photos of the conclusion. Looks like they had fun: Isn't that what's it all about?
http://aacevedo.galeon.com/NotInter... |
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| Dec-17-04 | | hongisto24: http://www.uaem.mx/ajedrez/blitz1/t...
for the blitz...change "1" to "2" etc...
Interesting that Naka didn't win OTB blitz |
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| Dec-17-04 | | kasim: <PeterFletcher> nice shots. |
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| Dec-26-04 | | chesswhizkid: <Shams> Hikaru (currently) does not have a coach/teacher, which is probably why his openings are not the best theoretical lines. I read a recent interview (I forget where) and Naka said that he mostly just studies off of his computer database. He also says that he doesn't like to read chess books. |
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| Dec-27-04 | | wkargel: I thought that Hikaru's stepfather Sunil was his coach...at least he used to be! Regards,
Bill |
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| Dec-27-04 | | chesswhizkid: <wkargel> Sunil (approx 2250) did coach Nakamura about five years ago, but now Naka studies chess completely on his own according to Sunil. |
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| Feb-12-05 | | blouoog14: I think both of them plays brilliant chess. |
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