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Mar-31-05 | | OneBadDog: <kakt> It's a prediction, nothing more. With meaning to offend anyone, I never considered the FIDE world champion to be the true champion. Kasparov earned his title in '85, defended it in '86, '87, '90, '93 and '95. Kramnik then won the title in '00 and defended it in '04. The FIDE title is to Kramnik's title as the Arena Football Championship is to the Super Bowl. |
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Mar-31-05 | | vinodp: Kakt, I fully agree with you.
I am amused at the way people are judging Anand . The man has won both categories convincingly in a super GM tournament featuring all the worlds top players. What more does he need to do ? Turn himself white !? |
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Mar-31-05 | | kakt: You mean you didn't consider Karpov as a world champion or Fischer. This is getting ridiculous, but I don't care what you or Kasparov thinks or agree with me or not. I don't want to waste my time on this site anymore. |
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Mar-31-05 | | Sandmaster: lol <vinodp> |
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Mar-31-05 | | 810609: Real rook ballet in this set, and I was afraid we´re gonna have fast last round draws... :) |
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Mar-31-05 | | vinodp: Great attack by shirov againsnt Leko's Sicilian |
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Mar-31-05 | | OneBadDog: <kakt> Of course I consider Fischer and Karpov to be world champions. From 1948-1990, FIDE did have the legitimate authority to organize world championship competitions. After 1990, the situation has become much more complicated and FIDE's legitimate authority to award the title of World Champion has been compromised. |
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Mar-31-05 | | Bigfatpatzer: <OneBadDog> How dare you disparage Arena Football by comparing it to the talentless NFL!!! |
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Mar-31-05 | | acirce: <From 1948-1990, FIDE did have the legitimate authority to organize world championship competitions.> And who had the legitimate authority to remove it? Kasparov and Short? |
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Mar-31-05 | | OneBadDog: <acirce> Them and the PCA. |
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Mar-31-05 | | tnrao: Congratulations to Anand for winning the tournament. Good tournament end of the day with everyone tyring their best. |
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Mar-31-05 | | thinimmy: <OneBadDog I predict that Anand will never become World Champion> This is ridiculous,Anand was already FIDE champion in 2000.If u dont recognize FIDE then dont recognize all FIDE chamions. |
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Mar-31-05 | | OneBadDog: <thinimmy> I addressed that point in a previous post. |
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Mar-31-05 | | acirce: <OneBadDog> Where did they get that authority from? I don't know why some random newly-founded organization can suddenly declare the WC's of the official world body of chess devoid of legitimacy and why people should take that seriously. As far as I'm concerned there are two world championship systems, both legitimate. |
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Mar-31-05 | | cade: Kasparov had the power to decide who was world champ. Chess has become like Boxing in that individual players getting matches funded and organised decide who is seen as the champ. The FIDE championship cycle is a silly joke while the title Kramnik holds has no real value as he doesnt defend it often enough. As of now i would say there is no real champ. |
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Mar-31-05 | | square dance: <kakt> <I don't want to waste my time on this site anymore.> thank god. |
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Mar-31-05 | | OneBadDog: <acirce> There's some merit to what you stated in your last post. From what I remember of the '93 dispute, FIDE either would not or could not provide both Kasparov & Short with the playing conditions necessary for a world championship match. In any sport, the organization that organizes and regulates competiton within that sport has to make sure that the playing conditions are conducive to conducting competition in a fair and appropriate manner; Kasparov and Short did not feel that FIDE was willing or able to do this and thus the PCA stepped in. |
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Mar-31-05 | | samikd: <and thus the PCA stepped in> It was formed by Kasparov, as far as I know. Look, I agree that the FIDE was, and is, corrupt , authoritarian, and evil (in the Susan Polgar page we were discussing how she was wronged by Fide)..and that it was necessary to reform it. However, it would be better reform it from inside, rather than forming a random organisation expecially when that organisation is also based on ego and authoritarianism. I admire Kasparov's fighting spirit and his willingness to stand up against totalitarian authorites..be it the opressive the Soviet Communists, FIDE, or President Putin. However, unfortunately, his idea of a replacement is always pathetic..in 1996 it was Yeltsin, and in most other cases it is his own dictatorship. Short himself got a taste of his dictatorial ways soon after forming PCA, when he compared Kasparov with an animal (whether or not he was right is another issue). Look what we got out of the PCA mess..Chess world in chaos, no proper World Championship cycle, and most importantly, FIDE being hijacked by harmful people like Kirsan. |
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Mar-31-05 | | EXIDE: How much prize money does a player like Anand,or Kasparov make a year? Is it in millions or is it in thousands? |
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Apr-01-05 | | Hanada: <cade> Great analogy, that is exactly what has happened to chess. |
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Apr-01-05
 | | cu8sfan: <the title Kramnik holds has no real value as he doesnt defend it often enough.> 1. Kramnik beat Kasparov, fair and square.
2. He just played a match against Peter Leko successfully defending his title.
3. It's not Kramnik's fault that a Ponomariov - Kasparov match didn't happen.
4. It's not Kramnik's fault that a Kasimdzhanov - Kasparov match didn't happen. How often do you have to defend a title to have a title with value??? Twice a year? |
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Apr-01-05 | | cade: At least once a year if there is no legitimate cycle to determine the next challenger. 2 matches in 5 years is not enough whatever logic you are going by, especially when the only title defence is not against the world #1 or #2 and ends in a draw. |
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Apr-01-05 | | square dance: <cade> <At least once a year if there is no legitimate cycle to determine the next challenger.> thats total crap, but thanks for the input. <2 matches in 5 years is not enough whatever logic you are going by,...> typically one match every three years is appropriate. <...especially when the only title defence is not against the world #1 or #2 and ends in a draw.> world ranking is irrelevant, as leko won the qualifying event. |
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Apr-01-05 | | samikd: <world ranking is irrelevant, as leko won the qualifying event>
Kasparov, Anand, and Ivanchuk were not part of that 'qualifying event' for no fault of their own. |
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Apr-01-05 | | square dance: you're wrong, kasparov and anand were invited. as for ivanchuk, i dont know. |
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