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Lodz Tournament

Akiba Rubinstein9.5/16(+6 -3 =7)[games]
Frank Marshall8/16(+4 -4 =8)[games]
Georg Salwe6.5/16(+2 -5 =9)[games]
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Lodz (1908)

1 Rubinstein ******** =1==1001 011=1=== 9.5 2 Marshall =0==0110 ******** ==01===1 8 3 Salwe 100=0=== ==10===0 ******** 6.5

October of 1908 saw Frank Marshall visit Poland (Russian Poland or Vistula Land, the westernmost part of the Russian Empire), where he played a triangular match with the top two players, Rubinstein and Salwe, in Lodz; and in October-November, an 8 game match versus Rubinstein, Rubinstein - Marshall (1908) (won by Rubinstein, 4.5 – 3.5, the same score as in their encounter at Lodz).

Andrew Soltis has pointed out in his book on Frank Marshall that Lodz 1908 would be a Category 13 event (average +2550) by today’s standards. Of all the tournaments held up to that time, only St. Petersburg (1895/96) was stronger.

The players took turns facing each other. We know the order of the Rubinstein - Marshall games, and the first Rubinstein – Salwe game, but we don’t know the order of the rest of the Rubinstein - Salwe games, nor the Marshall – Salwe games. We give the Rubinstein – Salwe games in the order in which they appear in Akiba Rubinstein: Uncrowned King by John William Donaldson and Nikolay N Minev. The order of the Marshall – Salwe games are taken from Dreimeisterkampf Marshall-Rubinstein-Salwe, gespielt in Lodz, October 1908 by Wolfgang Kubel. The Kubel book did not include the Rubinstein - Salwe games. One game score between Marshall and Salwe, game 6, is missing. It is known that it began with 1.d4 and ended in a draw.

Rubinstein received 400 rubles for his victory, Marshall 250, and Salwe 150.

Based on an original collection by User: TheFocus. N.B. Round numbers have been assigned based on the cross-table, color allocation, and known results to put the games into a more accurate version that has been done before. If dates are ever discovered, the order may be refined further.

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Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. Marshall vs Salwe 1-0501908LodzD32 Queen's Gambit Declined, Tarrasch
2. Marshall vs Salwe  1-0391908LodzD32 Queen's Gambit Declined, Tarrasch
3. Salwe vs Marshall 1-0471908LodzC49 Four Knights
4. Rubinstein vs Marshall 1-0381908LodzC49 Four Knights
5. Marshall vs Rubinstein 1-0241908LodzD32 Queen's Gambit Declined, Tarrasch
6. Rubinstein vs Marshall 1-0321908LodzD11 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav
7. Rubinstein vs Salwe 1-0381908LodzD33 Queen's Gambit Declined, Tarrasch
8. Rubinstein vs Salwe 1-0401908LodzD34 Queen's Gambit Declined, Tarrasch
  REFINE SEARCH:   White wins (1-0) | Black wins (0-1) | Draws (1/2-1/2)  

Kibitzer's Corner
Nov-12-13  TheFocus: This tournament was originally to be a quintangular one, with invitations sent also to Schlechter and Marco.
Feb-10-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  Tabanus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%8...

Three years before this event, "The insurgents were poorly armed, and eventually were overwhelmed by the tsarist regular military".

Jun-20-19  faulty: 400 rubles was very decent money in 1908; even 150 rubles would do much good to your balance In modern money (by relative purchase power), 1 ruble from 1908 would be worth at least 50 'modern' USD
Aug-23-20
Premium Chessgames Member
  MissScarlett: <We know the order of the Rubinstein - Marshall games, and the first Rubinstein – Salwe game, but we don’t know the order of the rest of the Rubinstein - Salwe games, nor the Marshall – Salwe games.>

From what I can see, this issue appears to have been sorted, although the lack of exact dates means the games are still jumbled up. Someone, i.e., not me, ought to go to the trouble of presenting the linked games, round by round, within the tournament description.

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