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Nov-11-05
 | | lostemperor: What are we talking about here. Ofcourse the Russians were heavily favorites. They have a team of 2700+ players with so much international experience. A dreamteam. If you look how many Chinese have competed in the top-tournaments, only Zhang Zhong has participated in Corus. They never had equal tournaments' participation's records in comparison with the members of the Russian team. This is an unequal comparison. If one had told us before the tournament the Chinese would finish second, half point from the almighty Russians, most of us would be surprised. Just because the Chinese had 6 great rounds results doesn't mean they can perform miracles overnight. And there's nothing wrong of people being enthusiastic by the way the Chinese performed and played the first six rounds except perhaps for Mig. The Chinese were the biggest surprise of the tournament finishing second. An excellent performance. |
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Nov-11-05 | | cade: The best Chinese player is rated what, 2650 or so and you are having a go at them because they lost by 1/2 point to a team of 2700s? Real low. |
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Nov-11-05 | | hidude: <lostemperor> I agree with you. The tournament would be glum and blah |
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Nov-11-05
 | | lostemperor: What would this tournament be without the Chinese. The Russians would dully win all their matches with one point difference. Perhaps four draws in the last round if that would suffice. It took the Chinese to push the Russians to their limits. It became a great tournament! |
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Nov-11-05
 | | lostemperor: <hidude> I've added something to it (the famous four short draws frequently seen in these kind of tournaments;) |
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Nov-11-05 | | hidude: <lostemperor> what four draws |
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Nov-11-05 | | DCP23: <lostemperor>: <What would this tournament be without the Chinese. The Russians would dully win all their matches with one point difference. Perhaps four draws in the last round if that would suffice. It took the Chinese to push the Russians to their limits. It became a great tournament!> Very well said. I agree wholeheartedly. |
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Nov-11-05 | | notsodeepthought: <cuendillar: Whether the women's team cheated or not cannot be clearly seen, but the reason for their invitation was a domination in women's events.> I don't think there was any cheating either, the Chinese women's team lost to almost every team they played - often lopsidedly - and not just to the Chinese men. However, for this very reason I wonder why the women were invited in the first place - the fact that they rule the roost in women's events should not be a valid argument if they are going to get clobbered even by medium-strength men's teams (like the US, say...). This should be taken in consideration at the next Team Championship. |
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Nov-11-05 | | gazzawhite: Holy moly! What a last round! I honestly had very little hope on the Russians winning after their 3-1 against the Chinese Women. They needed to beat the Chinese Men 3.5-0.5, the team which had done so well in the tournament. But they did it! Incredible! What a fantastic tournament. |
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Nov-12-05 | | hidude: <gazzawhite> I dont believe it! amazing! |
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Nov-12-05 | | Pawsome: I don't give a whit for Sino-Soviet comparisons or accusations of foul play, the Chinese squad played hair-straight-back, aggressive chess and I'm looking forward to more of it! |
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Nov-13-05
 | | OlimpBase: If you had right to pick one or two best games of the event what your choice yould be? Please help. Also, please find history of WTCh games at http://wtch.olimpbase.org |
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Nov-13-05 | | panzer6tiger: Boris Postovsky, Alexander Onischuk, Boris Gulko, Gregory Kaidanov, Alexander Goldin, Ildar Ibragimov, Igor Novikov - are these guys native Americans? I DON'T THINK SO! |
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Nov-13-05 | | notyetagm: Yes, <panzer6tiger>, the US team should have been called the ex-USSR team. It's kind of ridiculous. Do you see the Chinese or Armenian teams full of ex-Russians? |
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Nov-13-05 | | Raskolnikov: Armenian (also Georgian, Israeli) team is full of ex-Soviets. |
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Nov-13-05 | | unsound: <panzer6tiger> I've never understood what's so unpalatable about the idea of a nation of immigrants (especially to the descendants of immigrants--not that I'm assuming you are such). Although an actual Native American team would be good to see I suppose. That's not what you meant, though, is it. |
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Nov-13-05 | | Akavall: I think out of the "western" world only England doesn't have any immigrants on their team. It would be nice to see American chess school represented, Seirawan and Nakamura, for example. |
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Nov-13-05 | | azaris: There are certainly more Western-European countries that field homegrown teams than just England and Scotland. Try Norway, Denmark, Greece and France for starters. |
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Nov-14-05 | | notyetagm: American chess school: Seirawan, Nakamura, and Larry C wouldn't be a bad team. |
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Nov-14-05 | | DCP23: Chessgames.com, how about setting up a page to kibitz on the The World Junior Championship, started in Istanbul? |
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Nov-14-05 | | notyetagm: Good idea, <DCP23>. Mamedyarov is kicking ass and taking names at the World Junior Championship. |
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Nov-18-05 | | ARMENIA: America doesn't have any chess. The only player that should have been for the US this time and wasn't because of the bull@#$% politics is Vauzhan Akobian. He would fold ANY player that represents America currently. |
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Nov-20-05 | | Knight13: I would throw Josh Waitzkin in America's team if he was still active, that is. |
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Dec-29-05 | | BIDMONFA: World Team Championship (2005)/Lazaro Bruzon Photo, history / Foto, historia ...
http://www.bidmonfa.com/BRUZON.htm
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Aug-24-07 | | Karpova: <Raskolnikov: Armenian (also Georgian, Israeli) team is full of ex-Soviets.> Yes, good observation! But it's not that surprising considering the fact that Armenia and Georgia belonged to the Soviet Union - so every Armenian or Georgian chessplayer is an Ex-Soviet as long as he was born before the Soviet Union collapsed (and didn't immigrate from an Non-Ex-Soviet country). |
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