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| Oct-12-07 | | tal lover: 13...Ba6 is a blunder, if Tartakower had moved his queen out of the d file, or played 13...Bd7, 13...Nd7, there was no puzzle |
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| Oct-12-07 | | Eurotrash: Rather easy for a friday I thought. Or perhaps I'm getting better ;) |
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| Oct-12-07 | | psmith: <al wazir> I looked at your analysis with Fritz 5.32. Your line is winning for White if you deviate at move 21 with Nd6. 14. Nh6+ gxh6 15. Bxh7+ Nxh7 16. Qg4+ Kh8 17. Rxd8 Rxd8 18. Bxh6 Bf6 19. Nh5 Rg8 20. Qf3 Nd7 21. Nd6 Ne5 22. Qe4 threatening Qxe5 wins. |
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| Oct-12-07 | | whiteshark: The position: All white minor pieces have a focus on blacks king’s side. Rd1 looks through to Qd8. Black is back in development (Ra8/Nb8) and Nf6 and Be7 are the sole pieces defending the king, while Re8/Qd8 are doing it only indirectly, if at all. Now white’s Queen is attacked by Ba6, she must move.
Qa4 is the wrong wing, so <14.Qf4 > and <14.Qh4> are the candidate moves, looking towards the weak dark squares g5-h6-g7. I prefer <14. Qh4> bringing the Queen in the line of Be7-fire. But – that’s only an illusion as black's position is such weak that Nf6 can’t move, without making the position more worse. <14… Bxd3> there is nothing else.. <15. Rxd3 N8d7> Now the Rd3 is ready to switch to the kingside , as well as threating R1d1 pinning Nd7. It looks as if black can hold the position… <16. Nh5!!> putting the finger on the weakest point: g7. But now it’s getting complicated... Ups, my lunch break is over, reverting in the evening...
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| Oct-12-07 | | ConstantImprovement: Ideas:
- Ne7:+?
But after 14. ... Qe7: 15. Nf5 Bc4:! 16. Ne7:+ Re7: 17. Bc4: Nc6 there is nothing.
Black can even play 14. ... Re7:! 15. Bh7:+ Kh7: 16. Rd8: Bc4: 17. Bf4 (attacking b8) Rb7! with a5 and Raa7 to follow with a piece up and Black winning - Qf7:+? Kf7:, and now ...
- Qh4
Not really a puzzle move, but it threatens Ne7:+ after a move by the knight on f6, and Qh7:+ following with mate (e7 is blocked by either the queen or the rook).
14. ... Be3: 15. Re3: Qc8 (guarding f5, see later) 16. Ng7: Kg7: 17. Qg5+ Kh8 (Kf8 Nf5 with mate threat on h6-g7) 18. Nf5 Rg8 19. Ne7:! Rg5: 20. Nc8:, with the better position for Black (20. Bg5:! with a mate threat by Bf6:# 20. ... Qe6 21. Rhe1!, winning the queen with a dominating position. 21. ... Qe1: does not work because of 22. Bf6:#, and something like 21. ... Nd5 is followed by 22. Re6: e6: 23. Rd5:!, because d5: is still met by Bf6#. Or 21. ... Nbd7 22. Re6: e6: 23. Rd7: with the same idea. Finally 21. ... h6 22. Re6: e6: 23. Bf6:+ Kh7 24. Rd8 with Be5 to follow, winning the b8-knight. So Qh4 sems to be dangerous and some good lines can follow, but there might be an improved defense for Black, for instance to refrain from 14. ... Be3:. - Ng7: Bc4:, and further?
- Bh6 Bc4: Bg7:, well ...?
- Nh6+
This appears most puzzle-like.
h6: is forced:
I. 14. ... Kh8 15. Nf7+ Kg8 16. Nh6++ and a smothered mate will follow. II. 14. ... Kf8 15. Qf7:#
III. 14. ... h6:
1. A blunt line: 15. Bh7:+ Kh7:
a. 16. Rd8: Bc4:, and Black is winning
b. 16. Qf4 (eyeing h6 and threatening the black queen) Qc1 17. Qh6:+ Kg8 18. Qg5+ Kh8 (Kf8 Nf5 winning, despite of Nh5! Qh5:) 19. Nf5 Rg8 20. Qh6+ Nh7 21. Ne7:, when there should be too much pressure on the black position. |
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| Oct-12-07 | | TrueBlue: that was easy!!! I got this line in 2 minutes: 14. Nh6+ gxh6 15. Bxh7+ Nxh7 16. Qg4+ Ng5 17. Rxd8 Bxd8 |
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| Oct-12-07 | | RandomVisitor: The move 13.Qh4 is a strong alternative to the move played in the game, 13.0-0-0. |
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| Oct-12-07 | | CapAnson: Well I didn't calculate to the end but far enough to get it. Even a blind squirrel sometimes finds himself a nut |
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| Oct-12-07 | | Alphastar: I got the first four moves, but I can't claim credit for 18. Qe4! which is pretty much the point of the combination. White (re)gains material, while keeping a deadly attack. |
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| Oct-12-07 | | gambitfan: I guessed quite immediately the two first moves... but I did not work out the complete sucession of moves... I feel that a key move was the double threat of the Queen... |
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| Oct-12-07 | | Marmot PFL: Got this one on the first cup of coffee so it was not as hard as it looked at first. Black's inactive queenside/undefended rook were key to this idea working as Alekhine played the whole board as well as anyone ever did. Tartakower had a liking for eccentric or experimental moves which makes his games interesting, but at top level he often got crushed. Many of his ideas proved to be sound though and enriched chess theory. |
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Oct-12-07
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<jjones5050: In "500 Master Games of Chess" by Tartakower and DuMont, they claim a loss of Black's Queen after 6. Q-K2,QXP, 7. NB3 BN5+, 8. PB3 BXP+, 9. PXB QXQBP+, 10. QQ2 QXR, 11. BB4, BK3, 12. BXB PXB, 13. OO NQ4, 14. NK4, "and Black's Queen is lost". I don't see it. Why can't she just move to QN8 and escape? Help.> I think you are correct that (in the above line that departs from the actual game beginning with 6. ♕e2), Black can play 14. … ♕b1 and avoid loss of the Queen. Nevertheless, White seems to obtain some advantage after a continuation such as: 15.♘d6+ ♔d7 16.♗a3 ♕b6 17.♕g5 g6 18.♘xe5+ ♔c7 19.♘ec4 ♕d4 20.♗b2 . No better for Black would be 19...♕a6 (in lieu of 19. ... ♕d4) 20.♕e5 ♖d8 21.♘e4+ ♔c8 22.♘cd6+ ♔c7 23.♘e8+ ♔c8 24.♘4d6+ ♔d7 25.♕g7+ ♘e7 26.♘f6+ ♔c7 27.♕xe7+  . |
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| Oct-12-07 | | zb2cr: Well, I got the initial moves--14. Nh6+, gxh6; 15. Bxh7+ swapping Queen for Rook and 2 pieces. About this time I realized that I had seen this games before, so I decided I couldn't claim credit for it. |
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| Oct-12-07 | | amadeus: Two stars. |
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| Oct-12-07 | | RandomVisitor: After 12...b6
1: Alexander Alekhine - Savielly Tartakower, pre-A Kecskemet 1927
click for larger viewAnalysis by Rybka 2.3.2a mp up: 21-ply
1. ± (1.17): 13.0-0-0 Bxf5 14.Nxf5 Nbd7 15.Nxg7 Kxg7 16.Bf5 Qc7 17.Bxd7 Red8 18.Bh3 Qe5 19.Rhe1 Rxd1+ 2. ± (1.12): 13.Qh4 c4 14.Bxc4 Be6 15.Qg5 g6 16.Bxe6 fxe6 17.Nh6+ Kf8 18.0-0 Qd5 19.Qh4 Nbd7 |
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| Oct-12-07 | | QuidProQuo: I think I was the first one to solve this one today "wit"-out engines just my "wit"! |
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| Oct-12-07 | | MostlyAverageJoe: <QuidProQuo: I think I was the first one to solve this one today "wit"-out engines just my "wit"!> Your thinking is incorrect. |
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| Oct-12-07 | | QuidProQuo: <Your thinking is incorrect.> Actually I got the line 100% correct!
So excuse me sir but it is actually your thinking that is incorrect!! Do you know see your mistake? |
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| Oct-12-07 | | kevin86: What a combination! White's queen is attack but Alekhine is able to sacrifice two pieces in order to capture the enemy queen with check and is able to rescue his own in the process. He is also able to trap a rook and gain a knight but that move. |
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| Oct-12-07 | | MostlyAverageJoe: This is the incorrect portion in your first post: <<< the first one>>>.
A number of people found the solution without engines. The second post says <<<the line>>>, which is also incorrect. There is not just one line to be found, but a number of variations. |
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| Oct-12-07 | | whiteshark: <MostlyAverageJoe> quidproquo is only acting as an 'agent provocateur' as he couldn't procure any evidence. And we have seen already enough nuisances here at chessgames.com. We should keep our good mood in mind!! :D |
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| Oct-12-07 | | Max of Tat: Perhaps Alekhine was the <first>. |
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| Oct-12-07 | | YouRang: This would be a Tuesday or Wednesday puzzle if not for the added wrinkle that our queen is under attack. Right away, one's eye is drawn to the discovered attack on black's queen if we move our LSB. Where to move the LSB? Capturing the h7 pawn with check is an obvious choice, except that our knight is in the way. This calls for a <clearance sac>! 14. Nh6 <which is a particularly pretty clearance sac which cannot be refused.> gxh6 <or get mated - if 14...Kf8 15. Qxf7#. Even prettier, if 14...Kh8 15. Nxf7+ Kg8 16. Nh6!++ Kh8 17. Qg8+! Rxg8 18. Nf7# smother-mate!> And now we spring our discovered attack!
15. Bxh7+
Now, with both queens under attack, black should want to move his king to a square where our queen cannot deliver check. This rules out 15...Kxh7 16. Qxf7+ and IMO, 15...Nxh7 16. Qg4+ (now that the knight is no longer guarding g4). Of course, not 15...Kf8 16. Bxh6#, which leaves only one move: 15...Kh8. (I was a little surprised to see black opt for 15...Nxh7, which loses the queen immediately.) But still, after 16. Qxf7, the black queen must evade check while worrying about defending the Re8, and black's kingside is shambles with continuing attack coming from white's knight and DSB. Looks like to me. |
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| Oct-12-07 | | Magic Castle: <MostlyAverageJoe> No need to waste your time replying to claims all of us cannot verify as true. People who post how easy or how fast they solve the puzzle are wasting their time and the space for this forum. This is not a puzzle contest. We need you to continue sharing your insights of the games, particularly other possible combinations than those actually played. These help all sharpen their games. More power to you sir. |
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| Oct-12-07 | | willyfly: Material is equal. Looks like another dive bomber theme. Giving check always forces the issue. Here's what I see. 14 ♘h6+ gxh6 15 ♗xh7+ ♘xh7 16 ♕g4+ ♔f8 17 ♖xd8 ♖xd8 18 ♗xh6+ ♔e8 19 ♕g8+ ♔d7 20 ♕xh7 -----
got the first four white moves |
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