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| Sep-27-05 | | who: 51...Qd2 52.Qa1+ Kh6 53.Ne1 f3 |
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| Sep-12-06 | | Knight13: Wow... A won game for White, yet Steinitz fights on and draws the game. Impressive. |
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Mar-13-07
 | | keypusher: <Steinitz had a wonderfully scientific approach to chess.> Dr. Frankenstein? |
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| Nov-24-07 | | sambo: forgive my ignorance...but why doesn't black take the knight on move 21? |
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| Dec-03-07 | | PADutchImprover: I would not want to be black by move 15!
19 Nxb6 White begins a series of exchanges that help to ease Black's confinement. RE: Move 21. My guess is that Steinitz is thinking: 21 . . . fxe5, 22 f4, 23 fxe5, opening up the file for White's rooks and queen to enter the kingside while Black's queen and queen's rook are stuck behind the queen's bishop. |
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| Dec-03-07 | | RookFile: An off day for Chigorin, I guess. By move 24 he's got a strategically won position, all he has to do is focus on denying black counterplay. The bishop on c8 isn't going anywhere. |
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| Feb-27-08 | | PolishPentium: It seems that more than one poster here has suggested for Black 51...Qd2. Would 51...Qe4 (instead of the actually-played Qe5) have the same effect? Black thereby threatens both the capture of the N and mate at g2. However, perhaps you wiser and more skillful commentators may be able to point out flaws in the move that Qd2 does not have. Feedback gratefully acknowledged... |
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| Jan-10-09 | | WhiteRook48: someone once said that "Steinitz was very fond of this cramped Bishop." Why would a world champion like that? |
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| Jan-24-09 | | WhiteRook48: 24. b6 cramps in the Bishop, but Chigorin evidently forgot to keep the b6-pawn protected |
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| Feb-15-09 | | WhiteRook48: and to think that later that locked-in bishop became the most active piece on the board |
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| Feb-21-09 | | WhiteRook48: it would be even funnier if they played on in this drawn ending |
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| Feb-23-09 | | WhiteRook48: or maybe Chigorin was not able to protect the pawn on b6 |
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| Feb-24-09 | | WhiteRook48: 41...Ba6 is the move of the millenium. |
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| Feb-27-09 | | WhiteRook48: why 52. Qa1? |
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| Oct-30-09 | | whatthefat: Isn't 38.Qxf7+ Kxf7 39.Raa8 Rc6 40.Nd5 just winning? |
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| Feb-06-10 | | kibitzwc: (1398) Chigorin,Mikhail - Steinitz,William [C52]
World Championship 2nd Havana (17), 24.02.1889
[Fritz 12 (600m)]
C52: Evans Gambit Accepted: 5 c3 Ba5 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.b4 Bxb4 5.c3 Ba5 6.0–0 Qf6 7.d4 Nge7 8.d5 Nd8 9.Qa4 Bb6 10.Bg5 Qd6 11.Na3 c6 12.Rad1 Qb8 13.Bxe7 Kxe7 14.d6+ Kf8 15.Qb4 f6 16.Bb3 g6 last book move 17.Nc4 Kg7 [17...Nf7 18.Nxb6 axb6±] 18.a4± [18.Nxb6?! axb6 19.a4 Qa7=] 18...Nf7? [¹18...c5 19.Qb5 Nf7±] 19.Nxb6  axb6 20.Bxf7 Kxf7 21.Nxe5+ [21.Qxb6 Kg7³] 21...Kg7 [21...fxe5 22.f4 Kg7 23.fxe5 ] 22.Nc4 b5 23.axb5 Qa7 24.b6 Qa4 25.Qc5 Re8 26.f3 [26.Qd4 c5 27.Qd3 Qb5 ] 26...Qa2 27.Ne3 [27.Rb1 Ra4 28.Rb4 Rxb4 29.cxb4 Qb3 ] 27...Qb3 [27...Ra5 28.Qd4 ] 28.Rb1 Qf7 [28...Qa4 29.Nc4 ] 29.Nc4 [29.Qd4 Qe6 ] 29...Ra4 30.Rb4 Ra2 31.Qd4 Kg8 32.Ne3 Ra3 [32...Kg7 33.f4 ] 33.Ra4 [33.Rbb1 Kg7 ] 33...Rb3 [33...Rxa4 34.Qxa4 f5 35.Re1 ] 34.Rfa1 Kg7 35.Ra8 Rb5 36.Rb8 [36.Nc4 Rb3 ] 36...c5 37.Qd5 Rxb6 38.Raa8 Qf8 [38...Rc6 39.Qxf7+ Kxf7 40.Nd5 ] 39.Nc4 [¹39.Qxc5 Rc6 40.Qb4 ] 39...Rc6 40.f4 [¹40.h3!? ] 40...b5± 41.Rxb5 [41.Ra7!? Ra6 42.Rxa6 Bxa6 43.Rb6 bxc4 44.Rxa6±] 41...Ba6= 42.Rxe8 Qxe8 43.Rxc5 [¹43.Rb1!? Bxc4 44.Qxc4 Rxd6 45.Re1=] 43...Rxc5µ 44.Qxc5 Qxe4 45.Ne3 Qxf4 46.h3 [46.Qd4!? Qxd4 47.cxd4µ] 46...Bb7 47.c4 Bc6 48.Qa3 [48.Nd5!? Qe4 49.Kh2–+] 48...Qd4–+ 49.Kh2 f5 50.c5? [¹50.Nd5–+] 50...f4 51.Nc2 Qe5 [¹51...Qd2 52.Qa1+ Kf7–+] 52.Qa1³ Qxa1 53.Nxa1 Kf6 54.Nc2 Ke5 55.Nb4 Bb7 [55...Be4 56.g3 g5 57.gxf4+ gxf4 58.h4³] 56.Kg1 [56.c6 Bc8 (56...dxc6?? 57.d7 ) 57.Nd3+ Kxd6 58.cxd7 Bxd7 59.Nxf4 Ke5=] 56...Kd4 [56...Be4!?³] 57.c6= Bc8 [57...dxc6?? 58.d7 ] 58.cxd7 Bxd7 59.Kf2 Ke5 60.Nd3+ Kxd6 61.Nxf4 Ke5 62.Ke3 Kf6 63.Nd3 h6 64.Kf4 g5+ 65.Ke3 h5 66.Nc5 Bc6 67.g3 h4 68.g4 Bg2 69.Ne4+ Bxe4 70.Kxe4 Ke6 |
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Aug-29-13
 | | Penguincw: < WhiteRook48: why 52. Qa1? > Because white needs to exchange the queen. Black actually kind of missed a win, and Chigorin needed to win this game. |
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| Jan-03-14 | | King.Arthur.Brazil: I guess, without seen what follows in this game yet, that Chingorin made a big mistake with 15.Qb4 which allowed black hold the position with f6. I have no doubt in playing 15. Nxe5 - f6?! 16.Ng4 folowed as soon as possible by Kh1 and f4! with big K-side attack, remembering that all black pieces are at Qside unable to deffend this attack. You cannot allow your oponnent have such move (f6) in any game! |
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| Jan-03-14 | | King.Arthur.Brazil: You see that Chingorin plays bad cause, after only 9 moves, he freed the Black Q, change pieces, and give to black some counterplay. Black is in a ill position and survives after 9 moves. So, white strategy is wrong! |
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| Jan-03-14 | | King.Arthur.Brazil: Again at 33. Ra4 another bad move! The logical move is 33. c4! followed by c5, and the Sc8 is killed. There's no need to worry... White allowed c5, loose b6 P and freed also BBishop. He made Steinitz draw this game. Is there any political trap on this match? Here, it seems so... |
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| Jan-03-14 | | john barleycorn: Steinitz in his commentary:
<33. Ra4 - much better was c4 with the view of playing c5> <38.Raa8 - a serious error. He ought to have exchanged Queens first and then the move in the text would have won a piece, for obviously, if Black defended afterward by Rc6, White would answer Nd5 followed by Nc7> 51....Qe4 - this weak move was the consequence of a miscalculation. He could have won here by 51...Qd2...> |
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| Jun-01-16 | | The Kings Domain: Tough game for Steinitz. Outplayed in the opening, he was fortunate to get the opportunity to equalize in the middlegame and attain a draw. |
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| Oct-31-19 | | KingsBischop: Does anyone know why this game was even played given that Steinitz had already reached the necessary 10 wins? |
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Oct-31-19
 | | jnpope: To quote myself from the event page:
<Nov-21-13 jnpope: <chesssalamander: Why did they play game 17? Didn't Steinitz already have the required 10 wins at that point?>This match was for the best of 20 games, so Chigorin could have still made it a 10-10 tie by winning 4 straight games. After the 17th game was drawn then this was no longer possible.> |
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| Mar-27-21 | | Chessist: Actually 26...Qc2 was played (ICM 1889, p. 118). |
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