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Ilkka Saren vs Anatoly Karpov
"Saren Wrap" (game of the day Nov-01-2016)
Skopje Olympiad qual-1 (1972), Skopje MKD, rd 7, Sep-25
Sicilian Defense: Paulsen Variation. Modern Line (B44)  ·  0-1

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Apr-19-07  Troglodyte: Amazing play by Karpov. 25. e5 brings White's whole position crashing down.

If 27.fxe5 Rxe5 28.Qd4 <28.Qd3 Bb6+ 29.Nd4 Rxc3> 28...Rxe2 29.Nxe2 Qf3

Oct-26-16  bla bla: way black no play 5...a6?
Oct-26-16
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  Troller: <bla bla: way black no play 5...a6?>

I am not a Sicilian player, but the idea is to wait for White to play Nb1-c3 and only then go ..a6. So Nb5 has to retreat to the suboptimal square a3.

In any case this is just theory, played countless times.

Oct-26-16
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  perfidious: <Troller....In any case this is just theory, played countless times.>

As another future titleholder learnt to his cost when he tried to deviate from the main line: Karpov vs Kasparov, 1984.

Oct-26-16
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  Dionysius1: Karpov must have been torture to play against. Usually I can only follow the point of his moves by seeing what effect they have later, and he's about the least predictable player for me. Great to watch but imagine having to play him.
Oct-29-16  bla bla: thank you!
Nov-01-16
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  Phony Benoni: A clear win.

When Black breaks out of the Hedgehog-type formations, the results can be striking. It's hard for a king to defend himself when he can't reach any of the attacking pieces.

Black's bishops remind me a bit of thise Rotlewi vs Rubinstein, 1907 controlling the action from afar.

Nov-01-16  lost in space:


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Nov-01-16  AlicesKnight: <Phony Benoni; Black's bishops remind me a bit of this Rotlewi vs Rubinstein, 1907 controlling the action from afar.> Was it a game a few weeks ago, with raking bishops - oh yes; Shabalov vs G Jones, 2016 - some really good examples here.
Nov-01-16  Elrathia Kingi: Amazing play.

Doesn't 25.Qxd6 win a second pawn? No, it loses a piece: 25.Qxd6? Qxd6 26.Rxd6 Rc5! and a knight will be lost.

I am not entirely familiar with the hedgehog setups, but pushing the queenside pawns seems like a logical course of action for white. However, in this game, the opening of the c-file with the knights on c2 and c3 was disastrous. Perhaps an improvement would be to play Rc1 before Nc2? Or at least, Rc1 prior to b4.

The push of f4 also seems wrong, at least in concert with pushing the pawns on the queenside. Perhaps it would work better to play 20.Bd3? 20.Ne4 also looks like it could be reasonable.

21.Bg4 looks quite good for white.

25.Qa7 pushed the R to a better square -- the immediate Qe3 was preferable. Alternatively, it seems like white could get a full three pawns for the knight with 25.Qxd6 Qxd6 26.Rxd6 Rc5 27.Rad1! Bf6 28.Rxe6 Rxc3 =.

Nov-01-16  KnightOwl2: 17 Bh4 was good too, compelling g3.
Nov-01-16  Rubenchik: Karpov, overwhelming.
Nov-01-16  Chizoad: Funny looking position on move 17, with all 4 knights occupying the c-file. If you look hard enough it looks like the letter J... which is Saren's middle initial. Coincidence!?!? I think not.
Nov-01-16  WorstPlayerEver: Hang on a minute... if you look at the position after 21. b5 you clearly see the letter <p> formed by the unoccupied squares. Which probably stands for <patzer> Coincidence?
Nov-01-16  Chizoad: By Jove! I think we're on(to) something.
Nov-01-16  Rookiepawn: <Troller: <bla bla: way black no play 5...a6?> I am not a Sicilian player, but the idea is to wait for White to play Nb1-c3 and only then go ..a6. So Nb5 has to retreat to the suboptimal square a3.

In any case this is just theory, played countless times.>

Maybe also because immediate 5... a6 allows 6. Nd6+ and there it goes Black's good bishop. So 5... d6 protects the square.

Nov-01-16  bugoljubow2000: How many times karpov plays Sicilian w/ black, this is my first time I saw him play Sicilian for black
Nov-01-16
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  beatgiant: <bugoljubow2000> <How many times karpov plays Sicilian w/ black, this is my first time I saw him play Sicilian for black>

As far as games included in chessgames.com, the first Karpov Sicilian as black is Vibornov vs Karpov, 1968 and he played it 94 times out of 3545 (so far).

Nov-01-16  matvox: Saran wrapped
Nov-01-16  Bruce Graham: Lovely pun. 30...Qf4 and it's a wrap.
Nov-02-16  kevin86: Either white is saraned (wrapped up) or Sarined (gassed)....but he dies quickly.
Nov-11-16  Moszkowski012273: Actually 25.Qxd6... isn't that bad at all.

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