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John William Schulten vs Eugene Rousseau
Match (1841), New Orleans, LA USA
King's Gambit: Accepted. Bishop's Gambit Lopez Variation (C33)  ·  0-1

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Aug-04-09
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  LIFE Master AJ: Gosh, I thought for over 15 minutes, and I had no clue about how to solve this one.
Aug-04-09
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  LIFE Master AJ: Naturally ... I was jesting. (One for the "Odd Lie" page?)
Aug-04-09  gtgloner: Seems simple enough. 32. ... Ra4+ forces 33. bxa4 b4#. Let's see.
Aug-04-09
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  LIFE Master AJ: J Schulten vs E Rousseau, 1843

Tuesday / August 4th, 2009.

Black to move and play his thirty-second move. (32... ?)

Anytime the King is on the edge of the board, experience has taught me that this allows all kinds of mating opportunities to arise, this game is no exception to that "rule of thumb."

Thus 32...Ra4+! (The KOTOV rule for combinations.) White is forced to capture, as he has no flight squares. 33.bxa4, and now 33...b5-b4#. (Its a perfect epaulette mate.)

Aug-04-09  ALwoodpusher: Seems like black could have played 28...b5! instead of 28...Re6 which ends up wasting a move.
Aug-04-09  ounos: From a cursory look, it seems 23. ...Bc4+ is much better than 23. ...Ba4+. For example: 24. Ka4 b5+ 25. Ka5 Ne5


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26. Bxd4 Nc6+ 27. Ka6 b4#

The attack looks very strong. Can anyone find a defence?

Aug-04-09  ounos: Oh, the irony in my last post: that line also finishes with b4#, but with an entirely different mate :)
Aug-04-09  sileps: Black to play and win. White seems to have won the exchange, but that doesn't help much when black can mate in two:

32..Ra4+!, bxa4 (forced), b4#.

A very cute mate. It took me 10-20 seconds to actually realize that white was mated after b4 because of the strange position.

Aug-04-09  mworld: <Manic: Why does the opening explorer think 12...0-0-0 is a Q sac?>

that's a good catch - its definitely an exchange.

Aug-04-09  patzer2: After White's blunder 32. R1f5?? (with his won-loss record it would appear this was not an uncommon occurentce for Schulten), Rosseau finds the mate-in-two with 32...Ra4+! which solves today's Tuesday puzzle.

<LIFE Master AJ: Naturally ... I was jesting. (One for the "Odd Lie" page?)> Kind of like "I have no intention of getting between you and your Doctor," or if Congress will hurry and pass the $787 Billion stimulus bill unemployment won't go above 8% (see http://mediamatters.org/research/20...).

A.J., Good to see you active here again.

Aug-04-09
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  fm avari viraf: White King on the precipice of defeat hangs on the edge of the board waiting for his adversary to give a T.K.O. with 32.Ra4+ bxa4 33.b4#
Aug-04-09  MaxxLange: Looking over this on the computer - Junior 8 on a good laptop


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The game move, 19. Bh6, is a ?? to the computer - the eval drops from to 0.00

So, the computer can see that the King Hunt after 19..Kd4 should not work. I won't blame Shulten for not seeing that. However, he also missed the computer's powerful alternative, 19...Ne5!!


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which threatens 20...Ng4 mate:


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20. Kd4 is mate in 3 after 20...Nc6+, so White has to move his Knight or Bishop, and he seems to have no good moves with them

Aug-04-09  MaxxLange: 20 h3 Nc4+ also wins for Black
Aug-04-09  WhiteRook48: what the oh, wrong answer
thinking it was ...a5 threatening ...b4#
Aug-04-09  Slurpeeman: <Gosh, I thought for over 15 minutes, and I had no clue about how to solve this one.>

Now, which part of that is supposed to be funny? Not sure where to laugh..o.0

Today's puzzle is definitely more difficult than last Sunday's (at least to me). Time to practice tactics and "mate in #"'s. I thought the key move was b4, not Ra4. oh well

Aug-04-09  PinnedPiece: Tuesday Goal: 2 min

Performance: saw b4+ as dangerous for white after about 30 sec: in the next 30 sec I realized that Ra4+ would seal the king in, making the pawn push conclusive. 10 more seec to double check...

Result: Success!

Aug-05-09
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  LIFE Master AJ: < <patzer2> "A.J., Good to see you active here again."> Thanks.

Just coming out of a funk, after my wife died, ... that has lasted close to a year-and-a-half.

I have the old zeal back, I want to start cranking out web pages again, as well.

Aug-05-09  kevin86: Deja-vu! I had seen this one before,so I solved it in an instant. How coy was black with the pawn advance on turn 31!-little did white realize that two moves later,said pawn would mate him!
Aug-05-09
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  LIFE Master AJ: Actually, it was a pretty bad game. Instead of 32.R1f5??, 32.Rb8 would have probably won for White.
Aug-05-09
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  LIFE Master AJ: However, it is a cute mate, you don't get to do it with a Pawn too often.
Nov-02-10  sevenseaman: No judgment need be passed whether it was a well-played or a poorly played game. Here we are only concerned with who has the last laugh!

Schulten must have laughed all the way to the bank.

Dec-28-18  HarryP: The mating position is pleasing.
Dec-28-18  HarryP: The mating position is pleasing.
Dec-28-18
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  Dionysius1: Isn't it! It would even be mate without the white ♙ on a4. Good to see ♗,♘,♙ cover so many squares
Aug-02-21
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  MissScarlett: The score that appears in Stanley's column in the <Spirit of the Times>, June 21st 1845, has <32. K R B 5>, i.e. <32.R8f5> not <R1f5> was played. I assume this was the original publication; the source appears to be Rousseau himself.
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