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Napoleon Bonaparte vs Henri Gatien Bertrand
St. Helena (1820) (probably analysis), St Helena
Scotch Game: Napoleon Gambit (C44)  ·  1-0

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Dec-31-08
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  sleepyirv: Napoleon's everlasting accomplishment: a gambit in the Scotch Game.
Dec-31-08  nathanschulz: I was just reading about Elba, too.
Dec-31-08  Once: The GOTD title is a famous palindrome.

As for the game itself, I haven't got a clue. A java error means that I can't see it! Anyone else having this problem?

Dec-31-08  Requin: If that's the error where part of it goes green and it refers to something being 'malformed', it happens to me all the time (though fortunately not with this game). If it's not, I might just be hallucinating. Regardless, I don't know why it happens or how to fix it.

If you can't fix it, here's the game:
1 e4 e5
2 Nf3 Nc6
3 d4 Nxd4
4 Nxd4 exd4
5 Bc4 Bc5
6 c3 Qe7
7 0-0 Qe5
8 f4 dxc3+
9 Kh1 cxb2
10 Bxf7+ Kd8
11 fxe5 bxa1=Q
12 Bxg8 Be7
13 Qb3 a5
14 Rf8+ Bxf8
15 Bg5+ Be7
16 Bxe7+ Kxe7
17 Qf7+ Kd8
18 Qf8# 1-0

Good luck with the errors!

Dec-31-08  YJGYJ: Move 13 by Bertrand must be a joke or he was intimidated or what? What a time waster. That's like "if I win this game Napoleon will kill me after the game is over."
Dec-31-08
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  Honza Cervenka: This game is a little gem. Of course, as <Texas Time Traveler> and <Calli> have pointed out long ago, it was not played by ex-emperor Napoleon I against General Henri-Gratien Bertrand in 1818 or 1820 at St. Helen but by Hugh Alexander Kennedy against John Owen some forty years later in England. But it doesn't make the game less interesting. White's combination starting with 8.f4!! is great and perfectly sound conception though 10.Bxf7+?! is an inaccuracy as 10.fxe5 bxa1=Q 11.Qd5 would have won immediately. But still white's attack looks like a sufficient compensation for material deficit. 13...a5 was a mistake allowing mate in five but better 13...Qxe5 would not save black, for example 14.Bf4 Qxe4 15.Nc3 Qg6 16.Nd5 Rxg8 17.Bxc7+ Ke8 18.Nxe7 Rf8 19.Rxf8+ Kxe7 20.Rf3 (diagram) with decisive attack of white.


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Dec-31-08
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  Honza Cervenka: 6.Bxf7+ would have won the Pawn back but after 6...Kf8!? 7.Bc4 d6 8.0-0 Qh4 9.Qf3+ Nf6 10.Nd2 Bd7 (diagram) black is out of opening troubles despite of spoilt castling.


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Dec-31-08  Once: <Requin> Many thanks! For some odd reason, Java is working now. But I am grateful to you for printing out the game score.

Fritz 11 has this game in its database, but it starts 1. Nf3 Nc6 2. e4 e5. I suppose if we are rewriting history, we might as well transpose some of the moves.

Dec-31-08  Sularus: happy new year all !!
Dec-31-08  Anatoly21: Well, this is my first look at the game. Probably not of the greatest quality, but I can't help myself but to analyze her. By all means, correct me if I am mistaken in my comments.

5. Bc4? While I'm not familiar with this variation, without the queenside knight, Qxd4 is really better.

6. c3?! I really like Bxf7!? better. But c3 isn't so bad.

8. f4 Nothing wrong with this move, but cxd4 is an interesting alternative, for example: 8. cxd4 Bxd4 9. Nd2 Bxb2 10. Nf3 Qf6 11. e5 and the position seems double edged, and dare I say, fun.

9... cxb2!? What else really? If Qd4, then 10. Qb3 Nh6 11. Nxc3 and white seems slightly better.

10. Bxf7? Just bad. I realize that in a game like this, seizing back the initiative seems really important, but the boring 10. fxe5 bxa1Q 11. Qd5 gives white a winning position. This just hands it over to Black.

12... Be7 Interesting, but probably correct.

13...a5?? Inexplicable. Qxe5 and Black is still winning.

14. Rf8!! And the game is over. A simple, but quite pretty combination in my opinion.

Dec-31-08  Riverbeast: FIX!!

RIG!!

I've seen other games of Napoleon's, he couldn't play this well.

"Pre-arranged move by move!" is what Fischer would say. "This guy Napoleon is really the lowest dog around!"

To which Napoleon would reply, "The guillotine has been pre-arranged for you, patz!"

Dec-31-08  Travis Bickle: I agree Riverbeast. I was thinking what you wrote before I read it. this game is so obviously pre-arranged, the loser probably suggested part of the scripts moves!
Dec-31-08  WhiteRook48: and Napoleon was about to get mated himself!!
Dec-31-08  Travis Bickle: Yeah but he was such a great chessic genius that he made a "Great Tactical wonder".
Dec-31-08
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  Honza Cervenka: <I agree Riverbeast. I was thinking what you wrote before I read it. this game is so obviously pre-arranged, the loser probably suggested part of the scripts moves!>

The game is by no means prearranged. In fact, it is a genuine game but it was played by different players.

Dec-31-08  Shams: <The GOTD title is a famous palindrome.>

not to be a nerd (has that phrase ever prefaced any utterance that wasn't nerdy to the core?) but "Able was I, ere I saw Elba", like "Rats live on no evil star", is a mere <reversal>. The distinction between these and true <palindromes> like, for example, the all-time GPEWIE (Greatest Palindrome Ever Written In English) should be obvious.

if you're curious, here's the GPEWIE: <"Doc, note: I dissent! A fast never prevents a fatness. I diet on cod.">

Fascinating discussion on previous pages. Man there are some sharp cookies on this site.

Jan-01-09  Once: <Shams> At the risk of trying to outnerd, when is a palindrome a "reversal"?

Wikipedia quotes "able was I ere I saw Elba" as one of three famous palindromes in English: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palind...

If it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck ...

Happy New Year, by the way!

Jan-01-09  Shams: <Once><At the risk of trying to outnerd, when is a palindrome a "reversal"?>

when the word breaks are the same in both directions. it's easier to engineer and less aesthetically pleasing, but you are right, still *technically* a palindrome.

Jan-02-09  WhiteRook48: Napoleon had to fight most of his wars on the chessboard.
Jan-08-09  WhiteRook48: maybe Napoleon pre-arranged this game and played it so it'd look like a show.
Jan-24-09  WhiteRook48: great game, even though it was *prearranged* so obviously. I mean, if it wasn't prearranged, why 13...a5?
Jan-25-09  WhiteRook48: funny thing that the c8 Bishop is locked in by pawns
Jan-28-09  WhiteRook48: point between 10. Bxf7+. 10...Kxf7 11. fxe5+ (K moves) 12. Bxb2 and white gets the queen
Jan-30-09  m0nkee1: yes a5 .... hmmmm funny game tho :)
Jan-11-10  ChessKnightsOfLondon: Rf8 proved to be the decisive blow and was a shocking gambit which only the likes of Mr Napoleon could conjure up. Most players may have tried to win blacks queen with 14. Bb2.
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