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Gioachino Greco vs NN
Miscellaneous game (1620), ?, rd 75
Queen's Gambit Accepted: Old Variation (D20)  ·  1-0

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Oct-29-06  Archives: I don't get it... why did Black resign here?? He is up a Pawn and he resigns!?!?
Oct-29-06
Premium Chessgames Member
  Open Defence: well doesnt he lose material after Qf3 ? a piece at least I think
Jan-06-07  Ch3ckmate: this trap has proved useful for me.
ive played 3 games, with my opponent falling for it.
Feb-05-07  Archives: Black a pawn up and he resigns??!!

I've seen some terrible resignations, but this is the worse.

Feb-06-07  crptone: yeah. wats wrong w/ u NN, y u being such a sore loser. if you do that again, ima beat u so hard. plus ur name sucks, sux 2 b u.
Feb-06-07  Archives: STBY!
Apr-23-07  Fourpointo: Black doesn't have to lose a rook. He could go 6. ...Bb7 7. Qxb7 Nd7, but he still has terrible position.
Apr-27-07  petrosian horse: Is NN trying to lose? He loses a lot of games really fast.
May-04-07  JMJ565X: i played a game today that followed these same lines after finding out about this trap. the game went 5...Nc3 6. Qxc3 Bd7 7. Qf3 and i won soon after
May-04-07  DMBFan23: <Archives: I don't get it... why did Black resign here?? He is up a Pawn and he resigns!?!?>

nice one

Nov-27-07  zahbaz: You know... This is why I like playing 3. e3 over 3.Nf3 as white. I like to tempt black into hanging on to the gambit pawn.

Against strong players, I may go with 3.Nf3...but 3.e3 is both solid and allows black to make some poor choices.

Feb-18-08  D.Observer: Nice analysis by <DeepBlade>.
Oct-25-08  amadeus: 3.e3! - a nice move that every begginner should learn (the bad way)
Mar-25-09  WhiteRook48: 4...Bd7 is probably better
Sep-19-09  WhiteRook48: ....b5 is bad
Jul-01-11  SMCB1997: Ahh, I love this trap. It works on almost every game I play. :-)
Jul-01-11
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  FSR: After 3.e3, 3...e5! is usually considered best, and 3...b5 is weak. After 3.e4 (rather than 3.e3), the greedy 3...b5!? is actually possible, e.g. Deep Fritz vs Kramnik, 2006.
Nov-14-11  AnalyzeThis: I catch two guys a week in internet play with this as white.
Jan-20-12  SoundWave: this is a great trap!
Jun-23-12  amr.bin.adnan: 6.♕f3 ♕c7, ♕a8 ♗b7, ♕a7 e6, or ♘c6 is not so terrible for black. it has a little initiative. it's better than resign :)
Mar-21-13  Tigranny: Plenty of times I have been White and my opponent falls for this trap.
May-31-15
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  PawnSac: <WhiteRook48: 4...Bd7 is probably better ..b5 is bad >

yes b5 is bad (opens the h1-a8 diagonal)
but ..Bd7 is only marginally better.

1.d4 d5 2.c4 dxc4 3.e3 b5 4.a4 Bd7 5.axb5 Bxb5 6.b3 and white wins back the gambit pawn with advantage.
And if 6. ..Qd5? 7.Nc3 Qc6 8. d5 Qc5 9. Ba3 Qb6 10. bxc4 or 8. ..Qb6 9.bxc4 and white still has a good edge.

Jul-14-20
Premium Chessgames Member
  Sally Simpson: ***

Over at Red Hot Pawn where the database only holds games played with a time control of days and week and months, (ie no blitz or rapid games) this position


click for larger view

...has been reach 2,399 times (this number will by now have risen.) one las has 224 victims with it.

I have sent out a warning and shown a couple of counter traps for Black.

https://www.redhotpawn.com/chess-bl...

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Jul-20-23  generror: The classic trap for greedy Queen's Gambit newbies :) On lichess, about 600,000 people have fallen for it -- including two guys rated 2500+. Ouch.

But the most amazing thing is that Alekhine with white somehow neither knew about nor saw <6.Qf3> in this position:

Alekhine vs Gajdukevich, 1907

Ouch!

May-21-24  generror: just felt the need to comment again because so many people wonder why Black "resigns" and treat this like an actual game.

guys, 400 years ago people weren't recording games like they do now. Greco's "games" are preserved as lists of moves on a bunch of ppers, without any comments whatsoever as to when or where they were "played", or by whom.

most of his "games" to me seem just to him recording interesting opening traps and tricky variations, like i do in order to remember them. he probably has played this trap a few dozen times in his career, and the games probably all went on a few more irrelevant moves that weren't worth the paper (which was incredibly expensive back then).

and true, on patzer level, Black surely doesn't have to resign here -- he will be down a piece, sure, but White may just blunder their queen in the next few moves, so what :) on master level, however, being down a piece is a sure loss and indeed resignable.

and yeah, i personally also like to play 3.e3 against the QGA because people keep falling for this one. however, i also like to play 3.e4 because this feels less cheap -- and actually, in that variation, Black may very well try to hang on to their pawn this way, because the e4-pawn blocks the diagonal to the rook. Actually, I'd say 3...b5 is one of the best defenses for Black against 3.e4 if they know what they are doing.

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