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Feb-12-06
 | | tamar: < If he really was confused about any scores, he merely had to ask Morphy.> Morphy was a hard man to pin down, especially after the European tour ended. Edge says he didn't answer letters even then, and it may be that he removed himself from the title of editor on Lowenthal's book simply because he felt he hadn't done that job. With all his genius, I can't help but feel exasperation with the guy, who could have solved many of these mysteries by jotting down the scores and a couple of notes for us. |
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Feb-12-06 | | Calli: <Tamar> Fiske says Morphy is in NYC going over the galleys. Fiske also had the correct score if J-Löw (his hip-hop name, BTW ;->) wanted it from him. Its a clear case of deliberate fakery, IMHO. Morphy did correct the Deacon forgeries. When did Morphy find out about this one? Remember its not in the American version. It is possible that, in the midst of war, he didn't even see it until his European trip in 1863. Given Maurian's account, Morphy may have felt kindly toward the old master and the heat he took losing to a youngster. If a draw made J-Löw feel better, so be it. Its not the same as the Deacon games claiming equality with Morphy as an adult. Or maybe PM was so retired from chess by then that he didn't care anymore. |
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Feb-13-06 | | ath: <SBC> & others: thanks for the info ... looks like it would be worth for me to retrace the steps here with a copy of Lawson in hand ... . <Calli> The Deacon games were mentioned in Chess Monthly, March 1860, and Deacon's response to the claim of forgery (or loss of memory), probably addressed to Staunton, appeared in the July issue, reprinted from Philadelphia Evening Bulletin, following a rather acid explosion directed mainly towards Staunton in Chess Monthly of May. Morphy's reply to Deacon was promised for the August issue, but does not seem to have appeared in this periodical at all. Also in the March issue is a note that the English edition of Löwenthal's collection 'is a little more complete than the American edition': yet not a word about the 'drawn' Petroff game is said. If Fiske suspected anything, he does not seem to have expressed it as well or timely as he did contra Deacon & Staunton. |
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Feb-13-06
 | | tamar: <Fiske says Morphy is in NYC going over the galleys. Fiske also had the correct score if J-Löw (his hip-hop name, BTW ;->) wanted it from him. Its a clear case of deliberate fakery, IMHO.> "D Fi" could have been covering for our man "P Mo";->, and "going over the galleys" may mean not looking at it at all given his ambivalence about chess. |
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Feb-14-06 | | Calli: <Tamar> The NY galleys (Appleton), didn't have the bad score in any case, only the London Bohn edition. No "cover" was necessary. |
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Jul-23-08 | | micahtuhy: <SBC>
I have been doing research on the Lowenthal Harrwitz match, and I was hoping to find the last game where Harrwitz clinched the match and completed perhaps the greatest comeback in chess history, and I'm going over the game on CG.com and I can't find out the order of most of the games, would you happen to know which of the games is the last and deciding game of their match? |
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Jul-23-08 | | Calli: 31st and last game is
Lowenthal vs Harrwitz, 1853
See the Chess Player's Chronicle for the order of the games: http://books.google.com/books?id=7C... |
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Jul-10-09 | | just a kid: Is 28.Nd7+ also good? |
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Jul-10-09 | | 20MovesAhead: yes just a kid 28 Nd7 is good
maybe morphy was hoping for ... Qc3 Rg8 ke7 Nd5 winning b's queen OR 28...Qh3 Qxh3 followed by Nd7 winning piece with no counterplay for B. in the game morphy wins exchange only, but with virtually no counterplay for B. |
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Feb-10-11 | | geneven: I recommend the book Paul Morphy: A Modern Perspective by Valeri Beim (I'm reading it on my Kindle). It discusses the main game here at some length. |
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Oct-21-11 | | Mozart72: Morphy and Loewenthal have the same material advantage value: 1.4, and Morphy won. |
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Jan-12-13 | | chesssalamander: What a great victory for Morphy! So young, and to win against a master in the end game bc of king position! And the history! Lowenthal might have lied about being shut out by an untrained kid? Makes for great reading! |
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Jul-08-13 | | Xeroxx: epic game. |
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Jul-08-13
 | | offramp: Lowenthal: Hey, Paul! How did this game end?
Morphy: I won it.
Lowenthal: You sure dude?
Morphy: Yup. |
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Jan-29-16 | | juanhernandez: Be slow in choosing a friend & slower while loosing |
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May-26-16 | | The Kings Domain: Good game. Impressive win by the 13-year old Morphy, always one step ahead of his older foe. This game is a mainstay in Morphy bios and with good reason. |
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Oct-19-16 | | talhal20: This 13 year old genius was too much for J Low |
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Aug-27-17
 | | offramp: A lot of people don't believe me when I say that Löwenthal means <Lion valley>. But to those people I say this:
There will always be the doubters and the naysayers, the fearmongers and the rumourmongers and even the ironmongers. There's not many things you can mong. But in the end the truth will survive, not fake news, and the nattering nabobs of nihilism will lie trampled on the floor. Gentlemen, I thank you. |
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Aug-27-17 | | thegoodanarchist: <offramp: A lot of people don't believe me when I say that Löwenthal means <Lion valley>. But to those people I say this:
There will always be the doubters and the naysayers, the fearmongers and the rumourmongers and even the ironmongers. There's not many things you can mong.> Fish? |
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Aug-27-17 | | morfishine: <offramp> You're not lion, it really does translate, loosely, to 'Lion Valley' I bow to thee oh great one
***** |
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Aug-27-17
 | | offramp: There is also Coster. But I don't know what a costermonger does. |
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Aug-27-17 | | The Kings Domain: A game by the great Morphy is always a treat, the best a priceless gem wrapped up in myth. Although no "Game of the Century" like his great American heir would play at the same age a century later, this showcases the game's first prodigy in his outstanding strengths. |
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Aug-27-17 | | sudoplatov: Edo ratings has Morphy rated at 2716 and Löwenthal at 2501. They were ranked #1 and #13 respectively. (At #2 Edo has von der Lasa at 2692.) This game is of pretty high quality. |
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Aug-27-17
 | | Sally Simpson: 28.Rg2 wins but I'm trying to figure out what ghost the young Morphy saw here. click for larger viewby not playing 28.Nd7+ and 29, Nxc5. picking up a piece and still has a winning attack on the board. Possibly 29....Qxc3 which would hit the unprotected Knight and b2 Rook. But White has, depending on where the BK goes on move 28, various ways to counter that shot. Or maybe by playing 28.Rg2 entering an endgame the exchange up guaranteed he could not lose and could win at leisure. Sergeant here
 click for larger viewsuggests 28.Qxe6 as a better move and nothing else. Presumably 28.Qxe6 fxe6 29. Nh5+ winning back the Queen a piece up. |
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Aug-27-17 | | morfishine: <Sally Simpson> Yes, you are correct sir. The delightful aspect of a Morphy combination is usually it has a simple, transparent nature that leaves us breathless; while other Morphy combinations are so deep, that we shake our heads since we can't comprehend what's going on ***** |
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