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Srinivas vs Vaidyanathan Ravikumar
India (1984), ?
Englund Gambit Complex: Hartlaub-Charlick Gambit (A40)  ·  0-1

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Jun-26-12  Marmot PFL: A clever trap (10...Nd4?!), but 12 Bd3 would have been a more successful defense.
Jun-26-12  Marmot PFL: Actually 10...Nd4 seems strong if followed by 11...Bb4+, not giving white time to defend with developing moves.
Jun-26-12  Marmot PFL: 12 Bd3 (instead of Qxb7) Qxd3 13 Qxg4 Bb4+ 14 Nc3 Bxc3+ 15 bc Qxc3+ 16 Ke2 and the WK escapes to f3 without losing a rook.
Jun-26-12  rilkefan: Well, I looked at ...Qc2, then decided on ...Rxb2. Both are crushing, but mate in two is better.

Stockfish says that 12.Bd3 was winning for white (12...Qg5 13.Qxb7 Rxe3+ 14.fxe3 Qxe3+ 15.Ne2 Re8 16.Qc6 [16.Nc3 Qxd3 17.O-O is also good] Bxe2 17.Qxe8 Qxe8 18.Bxe2 is +2.7.)

Jun-26-12  sevenseaman: It would be a cool mate by 13...Bb4+ but for the White N at b1, the only enemy piece that can be inserted. (the White K will be frozen at e1)

So 13...Qxb1 14. Rxb1 (or~) Bb4#

What a sparkling 2-mver have <CG> found for a Tuesday! Someone is inspired or working really hard.

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Cannot say I remembered an iota of the game, though the two Indian names did evoke some 'deja vu'.

Jun-26-12  M.Hassan: I realized that my line has a flaw in move 17. If the King moves to c1, checkmate comes right away but the king can choose e1 to move to:

17.Ke1 Qc2
18.Be2 Bxe2
19.Ne4 Bc4
20.Nf6+ gxf6
21.Qxc7 Qe2#
And this line takes much longer than the text. Not a complete credit tonight!

Jun-26-12  Patriot: It took about a minute to see this. 13...Bb4+ and either 14.Nd2 or 14.Nc3 prevents mate. But 13...Qxb1+ first is a killer since 14.Rxb1 Bb4#
Jun-26-12  ajile: <patzer2: Even so, I think transposition to a Danish with 2. e4!? is good psychology after 1. d4 e5!? as it forces the Black player hoping to play a gambit to either accept or decline White's dangerous Danish Gambit.>

You can do the same trick with other openings as well. For example the From Gambit normally goes:

1.f4 e5
2.fxe5 d6 etc.

But White can turn the tables and play 1.f4 e5
2.e4!

and transpose into a King's Gambit! Not what Black was expecting.

:o)

Jun-26-12  Abdel Irada: <Crossed bishops?>

Black mates in two with 13. ...♕xb1+; 14. ♖xb1, ♗b4#.

In my opinion, this puzzle would have been ideal for a Monday: It was easier than yesterday's, and it started with the obligatory (Monday) queen sac.

Jun-26-12
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  FSR: Very pretty! I was looking at moves like 13...Qd2 and 13...Rxb2, which aren't half bad, but the surprising 13...Qxb1+! 14.Rxbl Bb4# ends the game immediately with an unusual version of Boden's Mate. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boden'... Sort of like Pandolfini vs NN, 1970. The Englund Gambit is garbage, but it kills fish dead. Apperly vs H Charlick, 1894
Jun-26-12  Abdel Irada: <ajile>: I had a regular opponent in Santa Cruz who loved to transpose into the King's Gambit that way. But I knew that, so I consistently disappointed him by declining with 2. ...♗c5, which aggressive KG players aren't fond of seeing.

Alternatively, in keeping with the psychology you're espousing, I could have considered a Falkbeer Counter-Gambit with 2. ...d5 and *really* annoyed him. (Unfortunately, it would also have annoyed me, because I'm not a Falkbeer player.)

Jun-26-12  sevenseaman: <rilkfan> <Stockfish says that 12.Bd3 was winning for white (12...Qg5 13.Qxb7 Rxe3+ 14.fxe3 Qxe3+ 15.Ne2 Re8 16.Qc6 [16.Nc3 Qxd3 17.O-O is also good] Bxe2 17.Qxe8 Qxe8 18.Bxe2 is +2.7.)>

I was fiddling with the engine's idea and I found this.

12. Bd3 Qg5 13. Qxb7 Rxe3 14. fxe3 Qxe3+ 15. Ne2 Re8 16. Qc6 Bb4+ 17. Kd1 (17. Kf1 Bxe2+ 18. Bxe2 Qxe2+ Kg1 Qe1#) 17...Bxe2+ 18. Bxe2 Qxd4+ 19. Nd2 Qxd2#

Please check up with Stockfish if there are any flaws in this line. To my mind this line has one weakness;

17. Nc3. After this defense I can only think of a draw by repetition of;

<17...Rd6 18. Qa8+ Re8>

Jun-26-12
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  FSR: <InspiredByMorphy: White could have also played 3.Nf3 Does anybody have any thoughts on the strength of this move compared to 3.exd6 ?>

I consider 3.Nf3 more accurate than 3.exd6. Then 3...dxe5? 4.Qxd8+ Kxd8 5.Nxe5 is a sorry gambit for Black, and 3...Nc6 (or 3...Bg4) 4.Bg5 f6 5.exf6 Nxf6 6.e3 leaves Black with scant compensation for the pawn.

Jun-26-12
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  FSR: <ajile: <patzer2: Even so, I think transposition to a Danish with 2. e4!? is good psychology after 1. d4 e5!? as it forces the Black player hoping to play a gambit to either accept or decline White's dangerous Danish Gambit.>

You can do the same trick with other openings as well. For example the From Gambit normally goes:

1.f4 e5
2.fxe5 d6 etc.

But White can turn the tables and play 1.f4 e5
2.e4!

and transpose into a King's Gambit! Not what Black was expecting.>

From's Gambit is a decent gambit, so transposition to the King's Gambit is a reasonable choice. It's particularly good if your opponent is a Sicilian player who wouldn't know a KG if it hit him in the face (as it just did). A junk gambit like the Englund, OTOH, should be accepted rather than offering one's own speculative gambit. After 1.e4 e5 2.d4 exd4 3.c3 Qe7!, White's compensation isn't so clear. Opening Explorer See, e.g., J Schwarz vs Tarrasch, 1883.

Jun-26-12  TheBish: Srinivas vs V Ravikumar, 1984

Black to play (13...?) "Easy"

White is up a piece and three pawns, but is seriously underdeveloped! White is two moves away from castling, and if White's knight on b1 were gone, Black would have ...Bb4 mate. Hmmm...

13...Qxb1+! 14. Rxb1

The response would be the same after 14. Kd2.

14...Bb4#.

Black really punished White for his greed!

Jun-26-12  bachbeet: White really is in a bind. Whether he takes the Q or not, it's mate.
Jun-26-12  solskytz: Witty! ...Qxb1 followed by ...Bb4 mate

must confess that I took two minutes to solve this.

Was trying to make ...Qc2 work. First by capturing on g3 and then noting that white was an awful lot of material up, isn't obliged to recapture, and has resources.

Then I saw that ...Qc2, apart from threatening d1, threatens also c1, and there are also ...Bb4+ ideas. Wow!!

Then discovering to my dismay that the retort Nc3, pretty much answers everything.

True, that 1...Qc2 2. Nc3 Rxb2, putting pressure also on f2, continues the initative and is dangerous - but it all started to look too complicated.

I said to myself - there must be a simpler way!!

And as if these were the magic words, such as the words to lead someone out of a nightmare and into full awakeness, in one's bed, close to one's beloved or otherwise, at that very moment the very solution sprang into view!! Hurray :-]

Jun-26-12  poszvald: 13, ..Qxb1+
14, Rxb1 Bb4#

13, ..Qxb1+
14, Kd2 Bb4#

Jun-26-12  sevenseaman: < M.Hassan: I realized that my line has a flaw in move 17. If the King moves to c1, checkmate comes right away but the king can choose e1 to move to:

17.Ke1 Qc2
18.Be2 Bxe2
19.Ne4 Bc4
20.Nf6+ gxf6
21.Qxc7 Qe2#
And this line takes much longer than the text. Not a complete credit tonight!>

Full credit is not reserved for reproducing the text moves. It is for finding the best moves for both sides. (at times text may have errors though not so today).

I agree in your first foray you did not find the best move for Black. But you found the win. Were you playing the same game OTB on a parallel table both Black players would get up winners and claim equal credit.

Had you found 17. Ke1 the first time (17. Kc1 was a soft move) I would give you full credit. So cheer up, you found a win despite missing <13...Qxb1+>. No small achievement.

Jun-26-12  agb2002: Black has the bishop pair for a bishop, two knights and three pawns.

The knight on b1 prevents mate at once with 13... Bb4+. Therefore, 13... Qxb1+, getting rid of the defender:

A) 14.Rxb1 Bb4#.

B) 14.Kd2 Bb4#.

Jun-26-12  lost in space: 13...Qxb1+! 14. Rxb1 (14. Kd2 Bb4#) 14..Bb4#

Nice!

Jun-26-12  gambler: Hassan:
I did it the exact same way. It feels very natural to play the bishop there ins such a position.
Jun-26-12  Eyal: Black was so "preoccupied" with developing his pieces that he missed a rather simple win as early as move 9, with ...Ne5 (10.Qg3 Nd3+, or 10.Qd5 Nd3+ [Qc2 is good too] followed by Nxf2).
Jun-26-12  mohannagappan: 13 ...Qxb1+ 14 Rxb1 or Kd2 Bb4#
Jun-26-12  whiteshark: <13...Qxb1+> and that's it.
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