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| Mar-22-11 | | beenthere240: 33...Nxc4 was a very Fischer-like move. Just a little finesse to win a pawn and destroy a position. |
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| Mar-22-11 | | anandrulez: Everything is forced after the Kd3 move . |
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| Mar-22-11 | | Garech: Awesome play from Magnus - he seems to be in great form; it's a real shame he won't be playing in the candidate's tournament. -Garech |
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| Mar-22-11 | | ozmikey: You would think that a quasi-King's Indian structure with light-squared bishops off the board would favour White, but Anand seems to play the middlegame surprisingly feebly. |
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| Mar-23-11 | | haydn20: Running away to the Q-side beginning with 23 Kf1 doesn't seem to help. Maybe 23 Nd1 is better? |
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| Mar-23-11 | | Dupin: Yeah, this reminded me very much of a King's Indian. 4.Qe2 is veru unusual in the Berlin. As far as I remember I think Andrew Greet advocates it in his book "Play the Ruy Lopez". Well, it surely isn't good enough against Carlsen :) |
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| Mar-23-11 | | Ulhumbrus: Anand has probably tried to search for the reasons why he lost this game. Suppose one begins by asking which major concessions Anand made to his opponent. The move 19 h3 is a major concession, disturbing White's King side pawns in a position where Black is playing to attack on the King side. Whatever Anand's reasons may be, bear in mind that this is the sort of concession which a player has normally to go to some trouble to force out of the opponent. The move 21 f3 is also a major concession, exposing further his King side pawns to attack. So this suggests the question: Why did Anand find it necessary to disturb his King side pawns and so expose his King to attack? In the event that Black attacks White's N on f3 by the pawn advance ...g4, the bishop on d2 blocks the square d2 for the N on f3, a N which could otherwise go to d2 and f1. According to Bent Larsen, with a N on B1 you nevet get mated. White's Bishop has come to the square d2 from e3. This suggests that the move 15 Be3 is an error. White lacks time to keep the bishop here. 15 Bh6 or a preparation for Ba3 is better. As I say, at the cost of repetition, Anand has probably tried to search for the reasons why he lost this game. |
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| Mar-23-11 | | haydn20: The CG database has 9 d5 as already favoring Black. I'm too poor a player even to offer an opinion. I do wonder about 10 Bxd7 which seems to trade White's only active piece AND develop Black's Nb8. BTW, I loved the way MC used his N's in this game. |
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Mar-23-11
 | | scormus: What a brilliant game from the Wizard of Os. A joy to play it through. OK, it was rapid play but Vishy looked nothing like a world champion .... while Magnus did! <haydn20 The CG database has 9 d5 as already favoring Black>
Yes, I dont have book knowledge here but it seems to actively help solve B's problems. Round about move 15 it looks like a very favourable (for B) KID. W has exchanged the LSB, the one piece he needs to support his bayonet-like Q-side thrust. While (of course) B has already played a6. |
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| Mar-23-11 | | Ulhumbrus: One alternative to 13 Rb1 is 13 Ne1 f5 14 Nd3 as in one of the main lines of the King's Indian defence. |
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| Mar-23-11 | | ozmikey: <Ulhumbrus><One alternative to 13 Rb1 is 13 Ne1 f5 14 Nd3 as in one of the main lines of the King's Indian defence.> Exactly what I thought when I first saw the position. In fact, after 13...f5 I would be tempted to take, with the idea of eventually using the e4 square as a pivot point for the knights after the forced 14...Rxf5. |
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| Mar-24-11 | | Ulhumbrus: < ozmikey: <Ulhumbrus><One alternative to 13 Rb1 is 13 Ne1 f5 14 Nd3 as in one of the main lines of the King's Indian defence.> Exactly what I thought when I first saw the position. In fact, after 13...f5 I would be tempted to take, with the idea of eventually using the e4 square as a pivot point for the knights after the forced 14...Rxf5.> If after 13 Ne1 f5 14 exf5 the move 14...Rxf5 is forced because White's Queen attacks the N on f5 ( thus tying the g6 pawn to its defence), this suggests the same resource after 13 Rb1 as in the game: 13...f5 14 exf5 and if 14...gxf5? 15 Nxe5 dxe5 16 Qxh5. However Carlsen played not 13...f5 but 13..Ng7 first, preparing ...f5. It is conceivable that the move ...f5 is not as good for Black in the line 13 Ne1 Ng7 14 Nd3 f5. One interesting question is whether the sequence 13 Ne1 Ng7 14 Nd3 f5 15 ef gf 16 f4 e4 17 Ne1 followed by the manoeuvre Ne1-c2-e3 is better or worse for White than the main line of the King's Indian defence 1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 g6 3 Nc3 Bg7 4 e4 d6 5 Nf3 0-0 6 Be2 e5 7 0-0 Nc6 8 d5 Ne7 9 Ne1 Nd7 10 Nd3 f5 11 ef gf 12 f4 e4 13 Ne1 followed by the manoeuvre Ne1-c2-e3. |
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| Mar-24-11 | | ozmikey: <Ulhumbrus: It is conceivable that the move ...f5 is not as good for Black in the line 13 Ne1 Ng7 14 Nd3 f5.> In that line, with the bishop being on e7 rather than g7, 15. f4 might be good...White's pieces look slightly better placed for a clarification in the centre than Black's. |
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| Mar-24-11 | | ajile: <Ulhumbrus: Anand has probably tried to search for the reasons why he lost this game.> He started playing just defensive passive moves in the early middlegame? |
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Mar-24-11
 | | Penguincw: I wonder why Anand played 4.Qe2?.Maybe to surprise Carlsen. |
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| Mar-24-11 | | Ulhumbrus: <ozmikey: <Ulhumbrus: It is conceivable that the move ...f5 is not as good for Black in the line 13 Ne1 Ng7 14 Nd3 f5.>
In that line, with the bishop being on e7 rather than g7, 15. f4 might be good...White's pieces look slightly better placed for a clarification in the centre than Black's.> You could be right. Open lines are supposed to benefit the player who is better developed, and even supposing that Black's N on g7 can be regarded as advanced in development as White's N on d3, Black seems to lacks space to develop his pieces better. |
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Mar-24-11
| | scormus: <Ulhumbrus: It is conceivable that the move ...f5 is not as good for Black in the line 13 Ne1 Ng7 14 Nd3 f5.>
I think one of the things that makes ... f5 strong here is the WNf3. W has to regroup his K-side in a hurry. Not so easy at the best of times but in a rapid play there perhaps wasnt enough time to think out a good strategy. In the end it probably wasnt the best plan to cut and run. Maybe a case of "You got to know when to hold them,
know when to fold them,
know when to stand your ground,
know when to run." |
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| Mar-24-11 | | anandrulez: 14.b4 ? Anand neglects carlsen's King side direct attack
15.Be3 ? f4 here and I think black is a tempo up no ?
17.a4 ?? Anand seems to neglect the problems he is going to face on his kingside completely and goes for some pseudo chances in queen side - Explanation is Anand though ok K side attack is not anything great , if I can bring some resources then then game is won on Q side for white .
22.Rdc1 Anand concedes his defensive resources are not good enough and has to escape to c2 atleast - so now tempos lost for white . Rest of the game is basically easy for a 2000 level player I think . Magnus played simply the precise moves and Anand didnt have a strategy in the game I think . |
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| Mar-24-11 | | anandrulez: Make it 2 tempos lost in the earlier sentence . |
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| Mar-24-11 | | NGambit: <Anand seems to neglect the problems he is going to face on his kingside completely and goes for some pseudo chances in queen side > I doubt if there are any serious problems on white King-side (let's say after move 18). <22.Rdc1 Anand concedes his defensive resources are not good enough> But after,
19. Ne1 (instead of h3 in the game) Qh5
20. f3 (to support g4 and make white queen available for defensive duties) white looks safe.
Now, white simply needs to push his queen-side play (which looks good to me)(e.g. c5 followed by b5 etc) making occasional defensive moves as and when necessary. I think white is clearly better here. |
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| Apr-10-11 | | The Rocket: <"14.b4 ? Anand neglects carlsen's King side direct attack 15.Be3 ? f4 here and I think black is a tempo up no ? "> You cant win tempos with pawn moves |
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| Apr-10-11 | | anandrulez: TheRocket , in Sicilians , you make a wrong pawn move and you lose tempo .Similary you allow black a pawn push like f4 , it results in a tempo - meaning an advanced pawn which can be dangeous in endgames and stuff . |
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| Jul-31-11 | | herfyriyadh: anand, king is touring around d chessboard.. |
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| Aug-17-11 | | Piewalker: I did a very brief overview/analysis of this game here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz8j... |
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| May-08-13 | | Alpinemaster: This game is a very basic example of the youthful aggression Carlsen plays with that will behoove him greatly in the coming WC match; both players are powerful in the strategy department and everyone knows that at this level tactics, though more subtle, are generally not what will decide a match of this caliber. Carlsen can keep up this kind of play for a far more sustained time than Anand for 2 basic reasons: Anand will grow tired at his age at a far more expeditious rate and perhaps more importantly, Anand has already made his fortune: Carlsen is hungry to prove he is WC material, which basically, he is NOT. Seat Carlsen against the stellar defense of Aronian - who did not lose a match in 2010 - and its probable that we would see the results of Petrosian in the late 60's: and I am not refering to Carlsen. Anand is getting old so this is a given for the Viking, but in 2015 we will see if he is worthy. |
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