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| Nov-16-11 | | Gogia: oooops! |
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| Nov-16-11 | | Marmot PFL: 41 Bc2? is most likely the losing move, as 41 Kc2 Be5 42 Kb1 gxf5 43 Bxf5 Bxg3 44 Bxh7 Bxh4 45 Ka2 is a theoretical draw. |
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| Nov-16-11 | | JamesT Kirk: Wonderful endgame!!! |
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| Nov-16-11 | | hellopolgar: compare this game with Kramnik vs I Nepomniachtchi, 2011 |
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| Nov-16-11 | | Steerpike: 41 Kc2 loses too <Marmot PFL> Be5 42 Kb1 b4 43 fxg6 b3 and wins. The a pawn will queen. |
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| Nov-16-11 | | JoergWalter: very nice. had the same "feeling" like in this one
Nimzowitsch vs Capablanca, 1913 |
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| Nov-16-11 | | Marmot PFL: <steerpike> you're right, black can just ignore fg6 and get there first. 40 h5 loses much the same way, but black threatens Bd4-f2 besides just pushing his pawns. So I guess it's hopeless but at least Kramnik didn't miss a draw in the ending. 29 Nxa6 seems = but white must have overlooked that he was losing b4. |
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| Nov-16-11 | | Ezzy: Kramnik,Vladimir (2800) - Nepomniachtchi,Ian (2730) [A37]
6th Tal Memorial Moscow/Russia (1.3), 16.11.2011
1.Nf3 c5 2.c4 Nc6 3.Nc3 e5 4.g3 g6 5.Bg2 Bg7 6.a3 d6 7.0–0 Nge7 8.b4 e4 9.Ne1 f5 10.Bb2 0–0 11.d3 Be6 12.dxe4 fxe4 13.Bxe4 Bxc4 14.Nc2 <Novelty, 14 Nd3 has been played before. Not a good move 14 Nc2 according to Houdini as black could play 14...Bb3 with a slight edge.> 14...d5 15.Bg2 d4 16.Ne4 Bxe2 17.Qxe2 d3 18.Qg4< Not surprising that Kramnik took 13 minutes here. There are lots of hidden tactics depending on where the queen goes. These are some of the complications arising if white plays 18 Qe3 [18.Qe3 Bxb2 19.Nxc5 Bxa1 20.Nxa1 Rf7 21.Nxb7 Qb6 22.Qxd3 22...Rc8 (22...Qxb7 23.b5 Raf8 24.bxc6 Qb6 25.Qb3 Rd8 26.Qxb6 axb6 27.c7 Rd7 28.Bh3 Rxc7 29.Be6 Rc3 30.Nb3 Kg7 31.Bxf7 Kxf7 32.Rb1 White is a pawn up) 23.Nc5 a5 24.Nc2 axb4 25.Nd7 Qa7 26.Nxb4 Qd4 27.Qxd4 Nxd4 28.f4 Ne2+ 29.Kh1 Rc7 30.Ne5 Rf6 31.a4 Ra7 32.Ra1 With a complex game with white having a bishop and 2 pawns for his rook.> 18...Bxb2 19.Rad1 Qc8 <A whopping 30 minute think for Nepo here. It is very complex and to get a clear picture of the variations in the 'minds eye' is certainly tough, especially the complex 19...dxc2 line. (19...cxb4 20.Nxb4 Nxb4 21.axb4 Nc6 22.Nc5 Ne5 23.Qe4 Re8 24.Nxd3 Nxd3 25.Qc4+ Kg7 26.Rxd3 Qe7 27.Rfd1 Rad8 28.Rxd8 Rxd8 29.Rxd8 Qxd8 30.Bxb7 Qd2 31.Qc7+ Kh6 32.b5 Qc1+ 33.Qxc1+ Bxc1 34.Kg2 Kg7 35.Bd5 and a draw.) 19...dxc2 20.Rxd8 Raxd8 21.Nxc5 Nd4 22.Nd3 Nef5 23.Nxb2 Ne3 24.fxe3 Rxf1+ 25.Bxf1 c1Q 26.exd4 Qe3+ 27.Kg2 Qxd4 28.Qe6+ Kf8 29.Nd3 White has a bishop and knight for his rook, with both kings exposed.> 20.Qxc8 Raxc8 21.Rxd3 cxb4 22.axb4 Rcd8 23.Rxd8 Rxd8 24.Rb1 Bg7 25.h4 b5 26.Bf1 a6 27.Nc5 Rd2 28.Ne3 Bd4 29.Ne4? < Kramnik must have seen many demons in the form of mating threats with 29 Nxa6. There were some dangerous mating threats , but analysis show that he could escape with a better position than after 29 Ne4? Tough to calculate clearly when short on time though 29.Nxa6 Ne5 <Threatening 30...Bxe3 31 fxe3 Nf3+ 32 Kh1 Rh2 Mate> 30.Bxb5 Nf5 <Again threatening 31...Bxe3 winning a piece or else 32 fxe3 and its mate.> 31.Nxf5 gxf5 32.Kf1 Rxf2+ 33.Ke1 Nf3+ 34.Kd1 Rd2+ 35.Kc1 Rg2 36.Rb3 Rxg3 37.Bc6 Rg1+ 38.Kc2 Ne5 39.Bd5+ Kf8 40.Nb8 Rg4 41.b5 Ke7 42.Nc6+ Kd6 43.Nxe5 Bxe5 44.Bf3 Rxh4 And white should hold > 29...Rb2 30.Rxb2 Bxb2 31.Nc2 Nd5 32.Nc5 Ndxb4 33.Nxb4 Nxb4 34.Nd3 Nxd3 35.Bxd3< Now Kramnik has 2 connected passed pawns to contend with and is technically lost.> 35...Kf7 36.f4 Ke6 37.Kf2 Kd5 38.Ke2 Kc5 39.Kd2 39...a5 40.f5< 40 h5 may be a stubborn defence - I can't find a forced win for black> a4 41.Bc2 a3 42.Bb1 gxf5 43.Kc2 Kb4 44.Ba2 Be5 45.Be6 a2 46.Bxa2 Bxg3 47.h5 h6 48.Kd3 Ka3 49.Bd5 b4 50.Kc2 Be5 51.Bb3 f4 52.Bd5 Bf6 53.Kb1 b3 0–1 Extremely impressive from the young Russian Champion!. I now feel a little ashamed predicting him to finish last in <lostemperors> final standings competition. A practically flawless performance. After Kramnik's 14 Nc2 novelty, Nepo just slowly increased his momentum and created lots of over the board problems for Kramnik. Kramnik was probably hoping for some kind of positional game, but it turned out to be a tactical struggle where Nepo is in his element. Remember, his favourite player is Mikhail Tal, so he will be 'all out' to make his idle proud. 10/10 for Nepo today. A stunning performance!! |
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| Nov-16-11 | | Ulhumbrus: 12 dxe4 displaces the defender of the c pawn. 12 b5 is one of the standard moves and may be right Instead of 23 Rxd8 conceding the d file, 23 Rfd1 Rxd3 24 Rxd3 takes it. This decision as well as some others suggest that Kramnik is in poor playing form, conceivably in poor health. Instead of 29 Ne4, 29 Nxa6 captures the a6 pawn. Kramnik may be unable keep the pawn, but the b5 pawn is attacked as well. |
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| Nov-16-11 | | mrbasso: 29.Ne4 is the human move.
29.Nxa6 looks too dangerous OTB.
29...Ne5 30.Bxb5 and now black has 30...Nd5, 30...Bxe3 31.fxe3 Nf5 and 30...Nf5. Kramnik made his mistake earlier.
27.Nc5? is bad. |
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| Nov-16-11 | | fisayo123: <This decision as well as some others suggest that Kramnik is in poor playing form, conceivably in poor health.>
Enough with this nonsense! Nepo was better on the day, end of. |
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Nov-16-11
 | | plang: <Enough with this nonsense! Nepo was better on the day, end of. > Agreed |
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| Nov-16-11 | | bronkenstein: Nice work <Ezzy> , I`ll add few brief Shipov`s remarks : Unplayed - <16...b6!> , <24.b5!> , <25.b5> (instead of `too abstract` 25.h4?) , <34 Kg2!? Bd4 35.Nxa6> with Bxb5 and f4 = (Nepomniachtchi , Shipov) ... and played <25...b5!> + <36.f4?> tempo lost , `almost decisive mistake` - instead of 36.h5!? with draw in the long main line, though he didn`t sound 100% convinced. <<Extremely> impressive from the young Russian Champion!> Just don`t let your conscious bites take you too far =) |
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| Nov-16-11 | | shaikriyaz: lousy game by krammy, or was nepo at his best! |
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| Nov-16-11 | | Ezzy: Looking at those 2 connected passed pawns is too much for Kramnik. http://whychess.org/sites/default/f... |
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| Nov-17-11 | | Jambow: Nepo certainly played well and to win an opposite colored bishop endgame bodes well for him. I would never say Kramnik played <lousy> here just second best. |
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| Nov-17-11 | | Mr. Bojangles: <Ezzy: Looking at those 2 connected passed pawns is too much for Kramnik.
http://whychess.org/sites/default/f...
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Must have been a painful loss for Kramnik.
He was outplayed pure and simple.
Great job Nepo... |
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| Nov-17-11 | | Ulhumbrus: <fisayo123: <This decision as well as some others suggest that Kramnik is in poor playing form, conceivably in poor health.> Enough with this nonsense! Nepo was better on the day, end of.plang: <Enough with this nonsense! Nepo was better on the day, end of. >
Agreed>
But why was Nepomniachtchi better on the day? This suggests that Kramnik was worse on the day. Why was Kramnik worse on the day? Perhaps he was not only worse than Nepomniachtchi but worse than himself in normal form as well, for example, if he was ill. |
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| Nov-17-11 | | rapidcitychess: <KKDEREK>
Yes, there is always an excuse for a loss! And when he wins, someone will make up an excuse for the loser, until we have this glorious tree of excuses, thus allowing the tournament to be postponed until everyone feels alright. Maybe around Never. |
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| Nov-18-11 | | gaatab: i think 34:n:a6 n:a6 b:b5 leads to a draw with carful play by white... |
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Nov-18-11
 | | Honza Cervenka: <Ezzy><Now Kramnik has 2 connected passed pawns to contend with and is technically lost.> Endgames with opposite colour Bishops are a rare exception where two connected passers are not so great deal. In fact, in OCB endings two extra Pawns usually win only if they are separated by three columns or more. Of course, things are a bit different when connected passed Pawns on the Queenside are accompanied by some Pawns on the other side of board but the outcome of this ending is not so clear to me. I did not analyse it in depth but my first guess would be that white had good chances for draw. I agree with you that 40.h5 was white's best chance. |
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| Nov-18-11 | | AnalyzeThis: Kramink is the guy that deserves to be rated higher than Fischer? I don't think so. |
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| Nov-21-11 | | The silent man: Nice game!
By the way, it would be nice that, when someone posts a variant in kibitz, and somebody clicks over the text, a small board would come out in the right side and show the line. This would be a nice feature for chessgames.com |
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Nov-24-11
 | | Richard Taylor: <The Silent Man> I agree. I use the program WinBoard whereby if you load the game on it you can have that but it is a bit of a chore so I just look at the game on Fritz if I get interested. Nepomniachtchi might be stronger than Fischer. many of Fischer's games don't always hold up to analysis either. But like Capa and Tarrasch etc he was classiscist and played great direct and beautiful plans. Nepo seems very proficient in all aspects of the game. Of course he is younger than Kramnik who has shown he is very good if not better than Fischer, at least as good. But "Nepomniachtchi"? What a bastard of a name to type or write out! He should change it to a proper British name such as Taylor or Smith. Great game though. |
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| Nov-24-11 | | sethoflagos: I read somewhere that it means 'orphan' or 'forgotten one' in Ukrainian, and was sometimes used as an alias by those wishing to conceal their real name. So it's John Smith, then. |
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