Veselin Topalov vs Vladimir Kramnik (2014) Breaking Vlad

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Veselin Topalov vs Vladimir Kramnik
"Breaking Vlad" (game of the day Aug-06-2014)
World Championship Candidates (2014), Khanty-Mansiysk RUS, rd 6, Mar-19
Queen's Gambit Declined: Harrwitz Attack. Two Knights Defense Blockade Line (D37) · 1-0

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Mar-20-14		1971: I agree with <Khapablanca>. It's something I noticed too and its not pleasant to watch. It's awkward and makes Nielsen look chauvinistic. One facet of the art of listening is never interrupting someone as they speak.

Mar-20-14		protector1990: I have come to learn from my personal experience that forcing kingside too much is generally a bad idea for black in QGD games. In QGD white opens up his Queen's side and has lots of space to make use of diagonals that aim towards black king. Kramnik overextended his pawns on the kingside and that's what enabled 19. Nxd5 winning two pawns and entering the endgame with such a huge advantage

Mar-20-14		RedShield: <Silvio Danailov ‏@SilvioDanailov 29m BTW,I don't understand the hysteria about the handshake.If two persons dislike each other,why do they have to fake it and pretend?#Hypocrisy>

Mar-20-14		cimatar: @ fgh, we are talking about commentating here and not about married life, are you a chess player? If they are talking about food, theater etc... who cares, but we are following serious deep chess and it is their "JOB" to give insight to the points given by each other and be clear about it! I noticed that plenty of times the female commentator is giving some interesting valid points only to be cut in by garbage talk by the male commentator! @ fgh if you care about their married life more than the JOB they should be doing, then I can assume that your chess level is way below than the lowest patzer! Or maybe you are a paparazzi and you should pursue gossip articles than Chess!

Mar-20-14		schweigzwang: <The male commentator is annoying. He does not agree with nothing coming from the female commentator.> Ah, married life.

Mar-20-14		Pulo y Gata: Interesting game, the comments more so. For the married couple-commentators, it might take a while before they realize who's in a trap.

Mar-20-14		Kazzak: Kramnik's definitely got issues. He showed up to give a solo presser, long after Topalov ended his. Kramnik claimed he didn't know he had to attend, but did so to avoid losing 5% of his prize money ... Again improbably talking about computers and computer prep and being too caught up in avoiding lines. (Crowther)

Mar-20-14		cimatar: Is it understandable for Patzers to focus the issue about the commentators being married or they haven't a clue because they don't watch the games being played live. Are they posting comment for the sake of posting even without considering why the other poster make their point. @ fgh and schweigwang if you are not following the games live and just making these stupid remarks about the commentators being married. Then what is the point of listening to them then if they start talking about their married life in front of complicated Games! They should be kicked out and be replaced by able CHESS commentators married or not!

Mar-20-14		Ulhumbrus: When Kramnik played 13...a5 he probably overlooked at least one thing after 14 b5. One can only guess what that was. One interesting point indicated by the commentators is that if Black tries to prepare ...a5 by preparing against the move b5 by 13...Bb7 White can prepare exf4 in reply whereupon the e6 pawn becomes weak eg 13...Bb7 14 Qe2 a5 15 b5 bc 16 bc Bxc6 17 exf4

Mar-20-14		schweigzwang: <cimatar:> I have been following the games live as much as I can. I don't find the commentary style of either of them objectionable, though of course if someone else does they certainly have the right to feel that way, and to so state here. Our point is that before the rest of you jump out of your pants to "defend" the female commentator from the male commentator, give her some credit for having known what she was getting into. Perhaps SHE doesn't object at all. In any case, I'm sure she can take of herself. I have nothing against anyone who watches not liking the style of the commentators. I have nothing against your wishing that someone else had been chosen to do the commentating. But nobody is forcing you to listen to the commentary. I must admit that I missed the part where the two of them were talking about their married life during the commentary ...

Mar-20-14		Shams: People are getting too hot-headed about this, but I must admit that I had the same reaction listening to their commentary-- Nielsen talks over Cmiltye a bit too much. Not egregiously so, but enough to be noticeable.

Mar-20-14		Ulhumbrus: Here is a comment from Kramnik at his press conference: <It was a big struggle. The Queen’s Gambit is one of my main openings. Topalov is known for his strong computer-based preparation, and I chose a solid opening to avoid his computer tricks, but my guess was wrong. I cannot blame myself for this game. I played okay, it just didn’t work out.>

Mar-20-14		Petrosianic: That's an odd comment. Don't all GM's use computer prep these days?

Mar-20-14		boz: Some more than others I suspect.

Mar-20-14		perfidious: It would be folly for any strong player <not> to use it nowadays.

Mar-20-14		HeMateMe: Is this Toppie's first win over Kramnik since Toiletgate?

Mar-20-14		Petrosianic: No, he beat him in 2008 (Corus, I think). Topalov is now 2-0 in classical games against Kramnik since losing the world championship challenge to him.

Mar-20-14		Petrosianic: Yes, here's the other one. It was Corus. The Nf7 sacrifice was much talked about at the time. Topalov vs Kramnik, 2008 You know, if Kramnik doesn't win the Candidates (I don't expect Topalov to), another match between these two would make a nice spectacle. Anybody want to find sponsors? Vince McMahon comes to mind.

Mar-20-14		Starkraven: @ schweigzwang: <<Oh, maybe the reason Topalov won is that he finally ditched his pink necktie.>> I had one of 'em once; a shockingly-flesh-pink-satin-affair-wit-black-vel- vet-motifs-embossed!...bought with the express purpose of scoring wit teh chicks... Can't remember if it tipped the balance in me favour but do remember getting my end in!!!... luvely game by Topo btw, even aside of teh "'puter trix'"... LOL.. .

Mar-20-14		Starkraven: Starkraven: @ schweigzwang: <<Oh, maybe the reason Topalov won is that he finally ditched his pink necktie.>> I had one of 'em once; a shockingly-flesh-pink-satin-affair-wit-black-vel- vet-motifs-embossed!...bought with the express purpose of scoring wit teh chicks... Can't remember if it tipped the balance in me favour but do remember getting my end in!!!... Luvlly game by Topo btw, even aside of teh "'puter-trix'"... LOL.. Thks man... .

Mar-20-14		Starkraven: Starkraven: Starkraven: @ schweigzwang: <<Oh, maybe the reason Topalov won is that he finally ditched his pink necktie.>> I had one of 'em once; a shocking.flesh.pink-satin-affair-avec-blackvelve- tmotifsembossed!...bought with the express purpose of scoring chicks... Can't remember if it tipped the balance favour but remember getting end in!!!... Luvully game by Topo btw, even aside of teh "'puter-trix'"... Yah, Thks man.. .

Mar-20-14		bgkuzzy: My god when are these two going to start acting like adults?

Mar-20-14		Whitehat1963: Beautiful game by Topalov! He still has it. He just doesn't pull it out as often as he used to.

Mar-20-14		john barleycorn: <bgkuzzy: My god when are these two going to start acting like adults?> like these two? http://content.stuttgarter-nachrich... time will tell

Mar-21-14		cimatar: <schweigzwang> (Perhaps SHE doesn't object at all. In any case, I'm sure she can take of herself. But nobody is forcing you to listen to the commentary) "PRECISELY THE POINT" they are there to provide good commentary! If a commentator is making a good valid point' in any sport let her or him finish first, so that chess audience can follow, because this is a Big chess event. Why are you making a big deal about them being married, is that an excuse to be annoying as a commentator! (I noticed that plenty of times the female commentator is giving some interesting valid points only to be cut in by garbage talk by the male commentator!) this is not professional! (I must admit that I missed the part where the two of them were talking about their married life during the commentary) Again precisely the point! because they are making commentary about Chess, so audience also don't care if they are married! (So the audience interest on them is about their commentating and not personal)

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