Veselin Topalov vs Vladimir Kramnik (2014) Breaking Vlad

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Veselin Topalov vs Vladimir Kramnik
"Breaking Vlad" (game of the day Aug-06-2014)
World Championship Candidates (2014), Khanty-Mansiysk RUS, rd 6, Mar-19
Queen's Gambit Declined: Harrwitz Attack. Two Knights Defense Blockade Line (D37) · 1-0

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Mar-19-14		Doniez: A very sad moment the missed handshake at the end of the game. This should be punished hard by the organiser. Kramnik can't avoid to comply with the very basic rules of chess, he can't be so unfair. Not a good advertisement for chess today.

Mar-19-14		RedShield: <Flushed with success> or <Look, no hands!>

Mar-19-14		Petrosianic: <Doniez>: <A very sad moment the missed handshake at the end of the game. This should be punished hard by the organiser. Kramnik can't avoid to comply with the very basic rules of chess, he can't be so unfair.> I'm not exactly disagreeing here, but Topalov did a lot worse than that, and was sanctioned by the Ethics Committee for it. If you can forgive him, you can forgive Kramnik too. And while I agree that the rules should be enforced, I think it's a huge stretch to say that the popularity of chess is impacted by how many handshakes there are in a Candidates tournament. Nobody outside chess keeps track of that. Hardly anybody even INSIDE chess does.

Mar-19-14		Ed Frank: Very good game by Topalov. Inspiring queenside demolition.

Mar-19-14		Doniez: <Petrosianic> ok, not even 1% of the earth population will remind this moment of shame for chess. However we are looking at the second most important tournament of the year, being the world match the first. And I think that a fair behaviour must be kept by all the players. I will still follow Kramnik games but this stain will remain in his career.

Mar-19-14		Petrosianic: <I will still follow Kramnik games but this stain will remain in his career.> You know, I'm not defending a rules violation, but I seriously question how long something like this lasts. For example, now in 2014 have either Karpov or Korchnoi's long term reputations suffered from not shaking hands in their matches? Yeah, maybe a little, but on another level letting personalities loose a little humanizes the game a bit. If it were up to me, I'd change the rule to make a handshake recommended but not required. Chess is still stuck halfway between being a sport and being a gentleman's parlor game, and has elements of both. Like agreed draws, for example. That's a parlor game rule. In no other real sport, can the players or teams simply agree to give each other points. So I don't know. I'm ambivalent about the handshakes.

Mar-19-14		1971: <SetNoEscapeOn: "In too deep."> What does he win Johnny?

Mar-19-14		Check It Out: It seems to me there was a mutual understanding between Topalov and Kramnik to avoid offering a handshake. Because of that unspoken understanding they avoided any awkward moments.

Mar-19-14		Petrosianic: What actually happened? Did Topalov offer a handshake, and Kramnik refuse it? Or did neither offer or refuse? If it was that, we can't blame one player or the other. Now, with Karpov and Korchnoi, they actually did shake hands for the first 7 gameds of the 1978 match. But Karpov took umbrage at some of the harangues Korchnoi had delivered against him, and unilaterally stopped shaking hands without advance notice. So, in Game 8, Korchnoi stuck out his hand, Karpov ignored it, Korchnoi felt completely foolish with his hand dangling in empty space, got mad, threw out his prep, and played a really weak aggressive pening line that earned him his first defeat in the match, after seven opening draws: Karpov vs Korchnoi, 1978

Mar-19-14		Shams: No handshake? And me without pearls to clutch!

Mar-19-14		Marvol: <notyetagm: Topalov vs Kramnik, 2014 Topalov and Danailov must be rubbing their hands with glee after this game. :-)> Sure seems so, Danailov tweeted: <Beautiful:) Who said revenge is a dish best served cold?He was right:) pic.twitter.com/zP9plFnBb5 — Silvio Danailov (@SilvioDanailov) March 19, 2014> Such a class act, those two :\|.

Mar-19-14		RedShield: Kramnik arrives at the board (no handshake): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNVA... Game begins (no handshake): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNVA... Game ends (no handshake): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNVA... Summary: there were no handshakes.

Mar-19-14		schweigzwang: Oh, maybe the reason Topalov won is that he finally ditched his pink necktie.

Mar-19-14		badest: <Marvol>, come on, drama is good ... it keeps us entertained. The chessbomb-forum sure was full today with people watching.

Mar-19-14		kia0708: on Topalov-Kramnik game: <badest: <Marvol>, come on, drama is good ... it keeps us entertained. The chessbomb-forum sure was full today with people watching> I AGREE

Mar-19-14		usuario x: <Kramnik arrives at the board (no handshake): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNVA>... it's funny how kramnik was trying to keep his hands busy pouring coffee and picking up his food in order to avoid the handshake

Mar-19-14		Khapablanca: The male commentator is annoying. He does not agree with nothing coming from the female commentator. The only way he can "agree" seems to be the "Do you thing so?" question. Interrupting, etc. What an idiot, an asholeum and an energumen person (or chess player, or commentator or whatever) he is. Thanks for posting those videos, <Redshield>. What a bad taste to select someone like him for that job also, even in the exact moments the "no hands shake" happens.

Mar-19-14		BOSTER: < csmath ... I do not see anything wrong in Kramnik's play on the Kingside>. When black knight spent all this game on h5, I'd not say this.

Mar-19-14		WannaBe: So, I finally have had a chance to see the first 6 minutes of the video posted by <RedShield>, and I enjoyed/laughed at the 'blowing dust off the board', 'run my finger between pawn and pieces', and Kramnik adjusting Topalov's pawns after first and second moves. Very nice. =))

Mar-20-14		cimatar: @ khapablanca...at least I'm not alone in this observation, I posted this quite early and I'm really annoyed with the male commentator, he doesn't want the female to speak always butt in when the female is making a point...PLEASE FIDE, qualify also the commentators, It's annoying and not very professional!

Mar-20-14		piltdown man: The sun is shining, the pigeons are flying in formation, and all is right with the world. The mighty Veselin is back, demoralising his nemesis Kramnik, and I'm so happy! Say what you like about the guy, he knows how to play chess. And I, for one, hope that he wins not only this tournament, but the championship as well. He would be a most deserving and worthy recipient of this honour. Go Topa!!!!

Mar-20-14		fgh: <Doniez>, are you kidding me? Do you realise that Topalov accused Kramnik of cheating back in 2006, and hasn't apologised for that to this day? Do you also know that in his protest letter after game 4 of the 2006 WC, Topalov threatened to not shake hands with Kramnik and not attend press conferences with him? Topalov is the one who started this. Shame on you for making it seem like Kramnik is the arsehole in all of this, while in fact it's the other way around.

Mar-20-14		fgh: <the male commentator, he doesn't want the female to speak always butt in when the female is making a point> Cmilyte and Nielsen are married. Are you actually telling them what their marriage should look like? Get a life.

Mar-20-14		fgh: <The only way he can "agree" seems to be the "Do you thing so?" question. Interrupting, etc. What an idiot, an asholeum and an energumen person (or chess player, or commentator or whatever) he is.> Are you insane? Nielsen is perfectly civil. Cmilyte married him, so I'm sure she doesn't mind his behaviour. Maybe you're just jealous your marriage didn't work out as well as his?

Mar-20-14		fgh: <Khapablanca: The male commentator is annoying. He does not agree with nothing coming from the female commentator.> Your English is worthless. And so is your brain.

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