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Apr-27-14 | | mkrk17: Nakamura shd either improve his chess or learn to keep his mouth shut. |
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Apr-27-14 | | whiteshark: Zurich reloaded |
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Apr-27-14 | | csmath: Basically very complex game that is hard to play for both. Not played as good as some other games on this tournament. Magnus can be satisfied with the opening but not with his re-grouping plan in the middle of the game which could have cost him the game had Nakamura been more astute. Even in the end Magnus missed clear tactical kill but Nakamura just could not find enough energy to resist. This rounds up complete psychological domination of Carlsen over Nakamura, indeed very strange given overall Nakamura's strength. |
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Apr-27-14 | | thegoodanarchist: <mkrk17: Nakamura shd either improve his chess or learn to keep his mouth shut.> Shut about what? |
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Apr-27-14 | | david ne: I thought on 42... b3 looked crushing. Stops R-a2. But hey, who am I to crticise? |
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Apr-27-14 | | cro777: A pictorial post scriptum
"I can beat Nakamura sleeping."
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmPJr0F... Nakamura: "I thought I was winning, but ..."
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmOz-eq... |
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Apr-27-14
 | | tamar: Magnus was asked why he did not play 42...b3 and seemed surprised. He said he did not see the point, and that White would play Nc6. I wonder if he had planned the line with 42...Rd2 far back, and when Nakamura played h3 and Kh2, he did not realize that 42...b3 43 Nc6 Nf3+ (not possible if the King is not on h2) 44 Kg3 Nd2 45 Rxb2 Rxb2 46 Nxb8 Ra2 Nakamura did not react either, so he missed the line, or did not want to acknowledge it. |
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Apr-27-14
 | | chancho: I'm tellling you guys... ever since Carlsen stomped on Anand last year, he has found a new gear. The guy loses two games in a row, and he nonchalantly wins two games, and retakes the lead in the tournament. If he again defeats Anand in November, look out Chess world, Carlsen will become Galactus. Scourge of the chessic universe.
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Apr-27-14
 | | SteinitzLives: Just watched the post game interview. Both players were clearly tired. Nakamura seemed tired, humiliated and dejected by the game and its outcome. He sarcastically said it took real talent for him to lose the game. Naka also said that losing it after doing so well was pathetic on his part. His humility was forced on him by the games outcome it seemed, and there was clearly some dejection speaking. Carlsen was on the other hand humble, yet seemed to refute (without sounding combative) most of Naka's suggestions for how white could have played better. Carlsen also stated he did not expect to win two in a row (after losing two in a row). In light of the game and its outcome and impact on the players, I will give a post-game-interview-classiness- behavior- rating on a scale of 1-10 to MC of 8.5, and Naka a 5.5. Naka can usually bounce back, and Carlsen is back in position to win the tourney. |
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Apr-27-14 | | GrandMaesterPycelle: Carlsen could easily just start playing badly on purpose against Nakamura, just waiting for him to crack at the possibility of winning. |
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Apr-27-14 | | Bobwhoosta: I can't believe how boring Carlsen's play has been this tournament. I mean, come on, play some dynamic chess for once will ya??? lol. |
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Apr-27-14
 | | perfidious: Yeah, Carlsen has had a grind of an event. |
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Apr-27-14 | | RedShield: I suspect the plan was for Naka to wear his <New York Red Bulls> shirt, pull of a headline-grabbing first victory over the world champion, and bag an invite to a pre-game kickabout at the Red Bull Arena. |
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Apr-27-14 | | RedShield: <Magnus was asked why he did not play 42...b3 and seemed surprised. He said he did not see the point, and that White would play Nc6.> I thought it was Naka who raised Nc6 as an objection. |
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Apr-27-14 | | MrQuinn: What is it 10 zip now? Soon Nakamura will outdo Shirov (vs Kasparov, 0-13) for CLIENT of all time honors. |
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Apr-27-14
 | | chancho: One definition of a client:
<Client: a dependent; a hanger-on.> So Naka is hanging on and depending on his daily dose of whoop ass courtesy of the Magnificent Magnus. A real sad state of affairs. |
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Apr-27-14 | | CountryGirl: I enjoy how Carlsen plays the NimzoIndian. He really shows how to get a dynamic, fighting game with it at the highest levels. This is especially encouraging in light of the massive scores that players like Sokolov, Korchnoi, Kasparov etc etc have racked up with the Nimzo as White. |
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Apr-27-14
 | | tamar: <Redshield> You're right. 42...b3 43 Nc6 was Nakamura's line. Magnus was answering why he didn't play 42...b3, and said something to the effect he didn't see it to be honest, and Nakamura can be heard saying " why is ...b3 so...if 42...b3 43 Nc6" Carlsen then says "I don't know." |
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Apr-27-14 | | schweigzwang: <The chess version of the movie Groundhog Day for Nakamura.> I dunno, looks like he was locked out of d6 for a very long time. |
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Apr-27-14 | | Caissanist: I was wondering why so many take it for granted that Carlsen psychologically dominates Nakamura, until I had a look at <cro777>'s second picture. |
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Apr-27-14 | | vanytchouck: How about this one ?
http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.p... |
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Apr-27-14 | | bobthebob: Well that was "interesting".
If I understand this correctly, and I may not, Naka had built up a small advantage and commenters thought it was headed to a draw...then it started all turning around with both players making some inaccurate moves, Naka more inaccurate than Carlsen. Well, at least that is an improvement from having an inferior position and being ground down by Carlsen's perfect play. I hope that Naka can quickly recover from this and do well in the rest of the tournament...then go home and figure out what the heck is going on when he plays Carlsen. |
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Apr-27-14 | | bobthebob: "His humility was forced on him by the games outcome it seemed" I don't understand that comment. Reality usually humbles people. On twitter, Naka has complained about his play before, even saying that he should have lost a particular game
"Absolutely deserved to lose today, but sometimes there is still a little bit of luck in chess! " and in another:
"Spend 50 minutes looking for the best losing line. Then Aronian doesn't go 34.Nxb7, but I return the favor immediately by going Bd2 not Bc1." |
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Apr-27-14 | | SetNoEscapeOn: <Bobwhoosta>
I only hope that Magnus will be in the same frame of mind in November. |
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Apr-27-14 | | DcGentle: The dynamics of this opening didn't permit Carlsen to exchange some minor pieces, as he is used to in order to enhance his positional play. The consequence was that his opponent would have been able to exploit the necessary regrouping of Carlsen's pieces for a dangerous attack, if he had done it correctly. Of course it's a positional dream to have a knight in the middle of the enemy camp, but this piece alone cannot do much, even if being backed by a second knight, as we have seen in the game. An alternative plan would have been grabbing space on the kingside by <16... h5> first, as suggested by Houdini. I analyzed a bit in this regard, and one has to guide the engine in order to make some progress here. The idea looks promising though, because White is forced to react on the kingside and cannot start an attack there, while Black can continue to pursue plans on the queenside as well. Ģ |
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