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| Nov-21-18 | | RookFile: It's jeopardy for both players now. All Caruana has to do is play a great game with the white pieces in one of his next two opportunities and he could very well be world champion. |
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| Nov-21-18 | | parmetd: At least today's game was very interesting, I thought Magnus might really show something special after h4 but he hurries a bit too quick with h5. I wonder if he just missed f5. |
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| Nov-21-18 | | optimal play: Fab wanted to exchange Queens as early as the 9th move but Magnus rejected that and they stayed on until the 39th when Magnus had little choice. A good game today. We may yet see a decider in the remaining three. |
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| Nov-21-18 | | Chess for life: No decisive games yet but plenty of excitement, build-up, and tension to enjoy for the next three rounds and possibly beyond! |
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| Nov-21-18 | | Everett: I’ve always enjoyed the idea of playing the Dragon formation as White, just was never good at it. Much bigger fan of the Botvinnik Formation, with more space and fewer surprises. |
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Nov-21-18
 | | Clement Fraud: It's pretty clear that this match is heading for a 6-6 draw (to be settled by a blitz tiebreak). I don't want to be negative, but if modern grandmasters refuse to play more than twelve classical games of chess per world championship, then there needs to be introduced a method of adjudication for the classical games that end in a draw. These adjudications ought then to replace any tiebreak systems. A computer program could be designed to judge - amongst other things - which player selected the moves with greater depth during all games that end with an agreed draw... for example. |
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Nov-21-18
 | | plang: Grandmasters aren't "refusing" to play more than 12 games - sponsors are having difficulty getting the matches approved - lengthening the match will make it even more difficult. If you are implying that if the match was 24 games that the results would have been different in the first 9 games then I respectfully disagree. |
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| Nov-21-18 | | Hawkman: The format is lame. It should be the first to win 6 games wins. The players became too good starting with the great Karpov. There need to be rule changes to make chess interesting again. Without this the WC is boring and dying. I've been a fan since Fischer, but I'm done until reform. |
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Nov-21-18
 | | Joshka: Great another draw!!! 3 more to go, and the public will FINALLY get a different system in place for the cycle!!! Go with draws not counting first to say 4 wins. Make these sissy players earn their money and quit using excuses as to why they can't play longer matches. There is no drama in matches like this. Change the format and you might have renewed interest!! |
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| Nov-21-18 | | Diademas: <
Nov-21-18
Premium Chessgames Member Joshka: Great another draw!!! 3 more to go, and the public will FINALLY get a different system in place for the cycle!!! Go with draws not counting first to say 4 wins. Make these sissy players earn their money and quit using excuses as to why they can't play longer matches. There is no drama in matches like this. Change the format and you might have renewed interest!!>Could you please explain to me why you think anyone, sponsors, organizers or the general public would be more interested if there were even more draws? |
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Nov-21-18
| | plang: The support for the system with draws not counting was severely damaged by the 1985 match which went 48 games without a conclusion. |
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| Nov-21-18 | | rogge: <Hawkman: The format is lame. It should be the first to win 6 games wins. The players became too good starting with the great Karpov. There need to be rule changes to make chess interesting again. Without this the WC is boring and dying. I've been a fan since Fischer, but I'm done until reform.>
That's just ridiculous. First to six wins, they would've played for six months. We remember Karpov-Kasparov, their first match lasted for five months. Madness. This is probably the match which displays the highest quality of play ever. Carlsen and Caruana are equally strong, and both defend extremely well. The current format is OK, and if tiebreaks are needed, so be it. |
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| Nov-21-18 | | ChessHigherCat: What Beatle's song does this remind you of? Number 9, number 9, number 9... |
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| Nov-21-18 | | Atking: Caruana's opening preparation is as always impressive. Therefore here White got a better game. Maybe be first 25.Bc6 then Kg2 and only after h4-h5. |
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| Nov-21-18 | | Petrosianic: <Diademas> <Could you please explain to me why you think anyone, sponsors, organizers or the general public would be more interested if there were even more draws?> No, he couldn't. Joshka is a troll. |
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| Nov-21-18 | | ChessHigherCat: <Atking: Caruana's opening preparation is as always impressive. Therefore here White got a better game.>
What does "white had a better game" mean if he didn't win and there was no obvious place where he went wrong? I think they've both proved that they can draw one another practically ad infinitum, so the question is whether Caruana has improved his blitz skills to the point where he can win the tie-breaker. You can cite the past records of blitz games, but it doesn't mean much if Caruana has greatly improved his blitz now. |
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| Nov-21-18 | | Count Wedgemore: <CHC: You can site the past records of blitz game, but it doesn't mean much if Caruana has greatly improved his blitz now.> If you look at the Blitz Rating List for November, Carlsen is no.1 with 2939 rating points, while Caruana is at 19th place with 2767. That is a difference of 172 pts. A huge difference. Caruana may have improved his blitz skills somewhat lately, but the discrepancy between the two is so big that Carlsen is still the overwhelming favorite in Blitz. I'd say 80-20 in Carlsen's favour. But in the Tie-Breaks they will have to play 4 Rapid games before they'll eventually move over to Blitz. And in Rapid Caruana has been doing quite well recently, both against Magnus and otherwise. Still, even there Magnus is the clear favorite (even though less so than he is in Blitz); he is almost 100 pts ahead of Caruana on the latest Rapid Rating List. And that does count for something, I should think. Short version: Caruana really needs to win one of the three remaining Classical games. If he doesn't do that, he will most likely not become World Champion (at least for two more years, that is). |
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Nov-21-18
 | | Penguincw: Video analysis of this game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg4.... |
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| Nov-21-18 | | zanzibar: So many good games, who can complain?!
I predict tomorrow's game will be decisive. In fact, I'll put a beer on it. (I'll have to pay myself off, win or lose, since I'm the only one here to take up the bet!) |
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| Nov-21-18 | | Mendrys: Too bad Caruana didn't play 36...Bf4? and practically hand Carlsen the win and instead played the expected and drawish 36...Qxh4 instead. Seriously though, this was a tense game and one of many hard fought draws this match. |
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| Nov-21-18 | | zanzibar: <An impassioned Carlsen bristled when asked by a reporter from Norwegian broadcaster NRK why he continued to persist for so long in the endgame despite the high likelihood of a peaceful result. When did he understand it was a draw? “I understood it immediately,” Carlsen said, voice rising. “It doesn’t mean you shouldn’t play. I’m trying to entice him to play h5 and if he does play h5 then I at least have a target. But obviously if he just keeps still and keeps his fortress just waiting for my king to enter then there’s nothing, but there’s no harm in playing. I really don’t understand the point (of the question).”> https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2... . |
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| Nov-21-18 | | zanzibar: <“I’m really not thinking about the tie-break now,” said Caruana, who is attempting to become only the second American-born player to capture the world championship after Bobby Fischer in 1972. “If we get there then I’ll start to think about it, but there’s still a lot of chess to be played.” He added: “And I really don’t agree with most people about my chances in the tie-break.”> ibid |
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Nov-21-18
| | Clement Fraud: <plang> <sponcers are having difficulty getting the matches approved - lengthening the match will make it even more difficult.> Thankyou, that's an important point... but I still think that a world championship match of twenty-four games (without tiebreaks) is - while not perfect - a better system than the present one. If finding a sponcer for such an event is proving difficult, then holding the match over a longer period in different locations is surely the answer: The 1990 world championship took place in New York for twelve games, and then France; I think that more examples of this arrangement are needed. |
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| Nov-22-18 | | Junbalansag: I have been watching the chess championship with a sense of dismay. If I were asked, I would propose to change the format into three 3's, that is, three classical games, three blitz games and three rapid games. The proposal could enliven the chess world championship. |
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| Nov-22-18 | | Atking: <ChessHigherCat: <Atking: Caruana's opening preparation is as always impressive. Therefore here White got a better game.> What does "white had a better game" mean if he didn't win and there was no obvious place where he went wrong?> Indeed. I overestimated 25.h5 as mistake and though that White should just prepare with Kg2&Rh1 however 25.Bc6 RxR 26.RxR Rd8 27.RxR+ QxR 28.Qf7 Bc5 29.h5 Qe7 30.hxg QxQ 31.gxQ Kg7 should equalize |
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