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| Jun-15-06 | | jajaja: if white's 27.Rxf7 transposes to the 24..Qh2 line then the text move 24..Qh4 was unnecessary in my opinion. and black should have played 24..Qh2 if this is the case. |
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| Jun-15-06 | | Halldor: <monad>: Probably because of the 'vegetable alkaloid stimulant' I only got the first two moves right and then went for my own line with a splendid finish in the style of a Tuesday puzzle... I will definitely have to adopt your method to survive longer in the week. |
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| Jun-15-06 | | dakgootje: calcuted many variations including the played one (didnt consider it strong enough as others, as it was much slower) and finally just became aware that most variations, if black didnt play too stupid, wuold win, and the sac was sound enough to play |
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| Jun-15-06 | | Nomen Nescio: Not very difficult. This looks like countless games I've played on yahoo. |
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| Jun-15-06 | | Tariqov: <nomen>did you see Qh6+ ??in one of the lines??just curious.I really don't think this is an easy puzzle,sure, anybody can find the first few moves but did you calculate 25Rxf7Qh1+ 26.Kf2Rxf7+ 27.ke3 Qh6+ right up to mate??or KingG's 27..Rf1 winning line??if you didn't ,you didn't solve it. |
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| Jun-15-06 | | Paladin88doug: I must say that I had trouble with this puzzle. I knew that the knight was the right piece to move by intuition, so I looked at the possibilities behind Nxg3, Nh4, Ne3 and Nd4. Nd4 seems useless. Ne3 had a little bit of a similar line I saw that has interesting figures, except the king still has shelter... Ne3 23. Rxe3 (of course this was busted in my mind after Qd2! when Black loses his battery) Rxf2 24. Rxf2 Rxf2 25. Qxf2 Qxc1...this position has a similarity to the one in the puzzle, except that the king still has shelter, so it seems insufficient. Nh4 seemed interesting, the pin had reason, and then Nf3+ leading up to 25.Rxf3 Rxf3 and White must act fast, perhaps Rf2 to try to establish equality, but there are many lines that can come from here and it would take lots of lines. I finally felt that Nxg3 was the move, but I can't say sure enough to gain credit for this puzzle. Here was my line I saw..
Nxg3 23. hxg3 Qxg3+ and from here I saw different possibilities... I guess if I had a stronger endgame feel, I would have chosen this line... Congrats to all who saw it! |
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| Jun-15-06 | | jackmandoo: That sure was a neat combo. I wish I could do something like that in an actual game. You know what else I wish I could do? Talk to girls. |
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| Jun-16-06 | | Marmot PFL: 22...Nxg3 looked promising but very complicated, so I went with 22..Ne3 23.Qd4 Rxf2 24.Rxf2 Rxf2 25.Kxf2 Ng4+ 26.Ke1 Qxd2+ 27.Kxd2 Nxh2. I know my limitations so I'll take a safe material edge over a sharp attack, especially if time is running short. |
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| Jun-16-06 | | Rocafella: <jackmandoo> Talking to girls is easy, it's getting them to talk back that's the problem. |
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Jun-16-06
 | | technical draw: <Rocafella> I talk to girls and they talk back to me. They usually say "leave me alone or I'll call the cops". |
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| Jun-16-06 | | Rocafella: <techincal draw> Some people got it, some don't. You definitely haven't! |
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Jun-16-06
| | technical draw: <Rocafella> You are right. That's why I said forget good looks, money talks, BS walks...! |
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| Jun-16-06 | | Rocafella: Hehe, my initials are B.S, I get enough of it ;) |
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| Jun-16-06 | | jackmandoo: Hmmmm, maybe this isnt right the forum to find support or good ideas for my dilemma. |
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| Jun-21-06 | | patzer2: Black's demolition combination with 23...Nxg3!! wins, but requires visualizing a long king hunt mating variation. After 23...Nxg3!! 23. hxg3 Qxg3+ 24. Kf1 (24. Kh1? Rxf2  ; 24. Rg2?? Rf1#), Black wins easy enough with 24...Qh4 but could have forced things a bit more with 24...Qh2! 
click for larger view[Position after the possibility 24...Qh2! ]
After 24...Qh2!, White has nothing better than 25. Rxf7 when Black cranks up his mating attack with 25... Qh1+! 26. Kf2 Rxf7+ 27. Ke3 Qh6+ 28. Kd4 Qf6+ 29. Kd5 Qf5+ 30. Kc6 Qd7+ 31. Kd5 c6+ 32. Kd4 Qg4+ 33. Re4 Qg1+ 34. Re3 Rf4#. If White responds to 24...Qh2! with 25. Ke1 then 25...Rxf2! 26. Rxf2 Qg1+ wins easily. |
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Aug-20-19
 | | Gregor Samsa Mendel: I like this puzzle, since it is the sort of "combination" that could arise in a game at my crappy level. |
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Aug-20-19
| | Gregor Samsa Mendel: At least for the position at move 27; it seems that the last time the puzzle was given it was at a point in the game where master-level foresight would have been required. |
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| Aug-20-19 | | Cheapo by the Dozen: Black easily wins a piece, so that's a puzzle solution right there. The result is an endgame up two pawns, which are passed and connected. There isn't an immediate path to forcing a queen exchange, but White also doesn't immediately threaten a perpetual check, so Black should be able to win here. |
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Aug-20-19
 | | agb2002: Black has two pawns for a knight.
White threatens Rxf8+.
The queen aims at the knight and the white rook and queen are aligned. Therefore, 28... Rxf2: A) 29.Qxf2 Qxc1+ followed by 30... Qxc3 - + [3p]. B) 29.Kxf2 Qh2+ followed by 30... Qxc2 - + [q+2p vs N]. C) 29.Qd1 Qh2#. |
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| Aug-20-19 | | saturn2: I saw 28...Rxf2 29. Qxf2 (Kxf2 is worse) Qxc1+ 30. Kg2 Qxc3 |
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| Aug-20-19 | | patzer2: In the opening, instead of 3. g3 Bxc3 =, I prefer the popular move and computer choice 3. Nd5 ⩲ as in White's win in D Dubov vs V Erdos, 2019. |
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| Aug-20-19 | | stacase: 28...Rxf2 at the least wins the knight. Easier than yesterday. |
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| Aug-20-19 | | malt: 28...R:f2 29.Q:f2
(29.K:f2 Qh2+ wins the Queen )
29...Q:c1 |
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| Aug-20-19 | | TheaN: For once CG seems to not go with an actual combination (ie sac something to win more back or mate) as after <28....Rxf2> threatening Qh2#, allows White the unpleasant alternatives of <29.Qxf2 (Kxf2 Qh2+ -+) Qxc1+ 30.Kg2 Qxc3 -+>. Of course the main line is best as it's a queen endgame, but three pawns should be enough. The only thing I'm truly wondering about is why Black opted for 30....Qg5+; after 30....Qxc3, following 31.Qf5 h6 32.Qc8+ Kh7 33.Qf5+ (Qxc7 Qxd3 -+) g6! 34.Qf7+ Qg7 -+ Black has access to g7. Black probably missed that and wanted to reduce counter play rather than getting the backwards c-pawn. |
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| Aug-20-19 | | whiteshark: 28...Rxf2 29.Qxf2 (29.Kxf2 Qh2+ wins the ♕c2) Qxc1+, and Black is 2♙♙ up. |
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sac: 22...Nxg3