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| Nov-30-02 | | ughaibu: To stretch the point, this is just before Euwe became world champion, he was older than Fischer is now. |
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| Nov-30-02 | | ughaibu: Meaning at the time Lasker was older, etc. |
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| Nov-30-02 | | drukenknight: Hmmm, if you look at the end, its another drunken version of material equality; black has R/N and extra connected pawn in return for the Q. Coincidence? Maybe.
BUt look at earlier in the game, doesn't white have the same oppurtunity to trade his Q for a similar value? White turns down the oppurtunity and then this same sort of exchange redounds to blacks favor. He can make the same sort of exchange, w/ interest. It's a funny game. You can look at the game as if it is filled with these sorts of questions, questions of when can I break the symmetry and still get a decent game? Not necessarily a won game, but a playable game. When you turn down oppurtunities like that, they often go back into the other guys hands, like some hot potatoe. In this game, Euwe emerges from the opening w/ two extra pawns but he is afraid to cash in his material against the great man himself. Why not 32 Bxe6 creating an exchange of equal value, white is ahead in material doesnt that make sense? Instead Euwe decides to back his Q into a corner in an effort to...I dunno keep the Q I guess. By doing so he gives up both position (of the Q) and tempo. If you are losing both ends of that equation it is often fatal. |
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| Dec-01-02 | | ughaibu: After Be6 black takes the bishop and is still threatening the queen, what has white achieved? |
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| Dec-01-02 | | drukenknight: all you can do is play moves and hope to find a line that keeps black alive, do you have a response for black? what I notice about the Q is that white has 2 pieces defending her and can use the N to recapture on e4 and counterattack the Q. saving a tempo. Backing up the Q loses tempo as well as position. |
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| Dec-01-02 | | ughaibu: Drukenknight: I will capture the queen and meet your time gaining recapture with the knight by capturing your pawn on h5. I will play Nc2 (attacking your rook) Nd4, support this knight with c5, bring my rook to d7 then f7 to exchange a pair or rooks and get my king in the centre (e7) I will then centalise my other knight c7-d5, then I will invade with my queen. I've got queen and knight for your rook yet you think I'm the one trying to survive?! |
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| Dec-01-02 | | drukenknight: so what are you saying: 32 Bxe6 RxN 33 NxR? I can't understand what your next move is w/o some sort of notation system. |
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| Dec-02-02 | | ughaibu: 32. Be6, e6 33. ?, Re4 34. Ne4, Qh5 then the plan as outlined above. |
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| Dec-02-02 | | drukenknight: Correction I was going to propose 33 Bxe6 and then what 33...RxQ? |
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| Dec-02-02 | | ughaibu: I take the bishop if you play Be6 on either of moves 32 or 33. |
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| Mar-26-04 | | ughaibu: Egghead: Look at black's 16th move, pure Lasker. |
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| Mar-26-04 | | aulero: Some rules playing against Lasker:
1) eliminate his king side knight,
2) eliminate his queen side knight,
3) don't allow him to promote a pawn to knight. |
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| Mar-26-04 | | ughaibu: Aulero: I thought it was about an "opium scented cigar"? |
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| Mar-26-04 | | aulero: Of course :-)
But I intented highlighting that Lasker was particularly gifted in manoeuvring knights. This game is an excellent example. Another famous example is Reti vs Lasker, 1923 where Tartakower called the Lasker knight "equus ex machina" paraphrasing the "deus ex machina" of the Plauto's comedies. |
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| Mar-26-04 | | ughaibu: Aulero: Good one, I'd been wondering about Lasker's piece, knight sounds right. |
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Jul-26-04
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: Robert Byrne mentioned this game in today's NYTimes as an example of a older player unleashing a great game against world class competition. What's interesting is that this game shows Lasker's style of "relentless defense" at its best. He starts off with a very passive setup versus the QGD, and I think that Euwe has a large edge by move 20. He still has the edge at move 26 but then chooses the wrong plan, playing for a King side attack instead of exchanging all the Rooks and working on the weak dark squares and pawns in the center and Queen side.
In the space of only four moves, Lasker doubles Rooks on the d-file, and his Queen is bearing down on d2 and c1. By move 35, the White Queen has retreated to f1, a Rook has penetrated to the second rank, and a Knight has taken over c2. By move 40 White is almost completely passive, and that "useless" Knight on e8 has just grabbed the f2 Pawn (and didn't those Knights look pretty on d4 and e4?).
Playing Lasker was almost unfair. You had to beat him on every single move, but if he beat you on only one move, he'd still win the game. |
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Apr-22-06
 | | offramp: I think this was Lasker's first serious game since Moscow 1925. (This was the first round at Zurich.) He beats a future WC as black after a 9-year lay-off. In all games he beat Euwe 3-0 with no draws. What a guy! |
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Jun-23-06
| | An Englishman: Good Evening: And of course, Lasker's King, six ranks away from his White counterpart, takes part in the mating attack by clearing the back rank and making ...Rh8 possible. |
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| Jun-23-06 | | spirit: good knights!!! |
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| Jun-23-06 | | kevin86: Strange and powerful is Lasker! He dominates the game with two castles and two powerful cavaliers-against a foe with an army of queen,rook,and bishop-none of whom seem to get along.lol The old master rules again! |
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| Jun-23-06 | | dakgootje: brilliant game, how black can turn whites seemingly edge to a dominating position! Those knights were just deadly. Just... amazing... if i only once could play like that. |
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| Jun-23-06 | | twijfelaars: Yes indeed, impressive game by Lasker. Really amazing! |
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| Jun-23-06 | | The17thPawn: Wow! I got to run this one through Fritz this weekend. I wonder if it will be able to point out Euwe's missteps or is this the kind of chess that baffles even strong programs? |
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| Jun-23-06 | | gladiator367: Heh, what a wonderful finish! |
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| Jun-23-06 | | RookFile: Lasker always was very strong with his handling of rooks, and with tactical play in general, of course. |
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