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Jul-24-18
 | | maxi: Marvelous attacking game. With a computer one can find one or two blemishes, but it is wonderful, absolutely. The attack is based the idea of increasing piece pressure on a king with nowhere to run. |
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Jul-24-18
 | | HeMateMe: Terrific game. Fischer was an expert in the openings. Age 19 here. |
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| Jul-25-18 | | Count Wedgemore: Yes. Great game. And what makes it so impressive is that Fischer played against both Najdorf and the Najdorf at the same time :) |
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| Jun-06-19 | | thegoodanarchist: < Count Wedgemore: Yes. Great game. And what makes it so impressive is that Fischer played against both Najdorf and the Najdorf at the same time :)> Najdorf in stereo! |
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| Jun-06-19 | | M3ANDROS: Can we appreciate for a hot second the star of the show == the knight at f5? It's a beast! |
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| Jun-06-19 | | Ironmanth: Fantastically lethal game! Bravo, Bobby. |
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| Jul-13-19 | | Bishoprick: Can anyone tell me what happens if Black takes the pawn e4 on move 7? I really don't see it. |
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| Aug-01-20 | | Helios727: Bishoprick, in M60MG, Fischer gives 7...Nxe4 8.Qf3 Nc5 9.b4 e6 10.bxc5 exd5 11.Qxd5 Ra7=. So it would have been a better choice for Najdorf. |
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| Nov-09-20 | | jerseybob: <Howard: I'm almost sure of reading a couple times that Fischer in his book My60MG overlooked around the 10th move a much better move on Black's part that Najdorf overlooked. The late Larry Evans mentioned it in a 1986 column in Chess Life, plus Soltis I believe also did so> Soltis, in "Bobby Fischer Reconsidered" gives 7..e6 8.Nxf6+,Qxf6 9.Bd3!,Bb7 10.00 followed by by c2-c3/a2-a4 with an edge, instead of Fischer's recommended 9.c4 overlooking 9..d5!
threatening Bb4+. |
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| Mar-15-21 | | Ulhumbrus: If 12...e5 allows White's knight to get to f5 after Rxe4 this suggests 12...e6 keeping White's knight out of f5. |
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May-28-22
 | | saffuna: Trying to figure out black's error on move 12 from Kasparov's analysis in OMGP, no luck. Then I realized there's a typo: "12...d5." With e5 Kasparov's comment makes sense: "A catastrophic weakening of the f5-square and the a2-g8 long diagonal, which leads to the collapse of Black's position." Kasparov does recommend 12...Bxg2, but doesn't indicate whether it wins. |
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May-28-22
| | saffuna: Kasparov also gives 12. Re1 the dreaded "?!," saying 12. Bb3 "was stronger, with a powerful intitiative that more than compensates for the sacrificed pawns..." |
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May-30-22
 | | nizmo11: After 12.Re1?! Bxg2! Fisher gives in <My60MG>:
13.Kxg2 dxc4 14.Qf3 Nd7 15. Nf5 Rg8+ 16.Kh1 e5 ("if 16...e6 17.Qc6 threatening 18 Rxe6+") 17.Be3 "with a winning bind despite the two-pawn deficit".
The comment after 16...e5 17.Be3 is right, but in fact 16...e6! was the correct defense:
after 17 Qc6
click for larger viewBlack can now play 17...e5! and if 18. Be3 then 18...Rc8 19.Qf3 Nc5 and compared to variant 16...e5?! 17.Be3 Rc8 18. Rad1 Black has gained an important tempo and can answer to 20.Rad1 with Nd3
Another defense is 17...Qc8 returning the extra pawns with 18.Rxe6+ fxe6 19.Qxe6+ Kd8 20.Qxg8 Qc5. It seems White has no advantage here. |
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| Jul-02-24 | | N.O.F. NAJDORF: <Eyal:
...Nxe4 8.Qf3 Nc5 9.b4! e6 10.bxc5 exd5 11.Qxd5 Ra7 12.c6 (or 11.c6 immediately) is better for White.> 7...Nxe4 8. Qf3 Nc5 9. b4 Bb7! |
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| Jul-02-24 | | N.O.F. NAJDORF: 23...Kf8 24. Bh5 Nc5 25. Qd5 and mates |
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| Jul-02-24 | | N.O.F. NAJDORF: 24...Rb7 25. Qd5 Qc8 26. Rxa6
and the threat of 27. Nd6 is decisive.
E.g.
26...Qb8 27. Nd6 Ra7 28. Qa5+ |
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| Jul-03-24 | | N.O.F. NAJDORF: <N.O.F. NAJDORF: <Eyal:
...Nxe4 8.Qf3 Nc5 9.b4! e6 10.bxc5 exd5 11.Qxd5 Ra7 12.c6 (or 11.c6 immediately) is better for White.> 7...Nxe4 8. Qf3 Nc5 9. b4 Bb7!>
7...Nxe4 8. Qf3 Nc5 9. b4 Bb7 10. Nxb5 axb5 11. Bxb5+ Nbd7 12. bxc5 dxc5 13. Nf6+ gxf6 14. Qxb7 Rc8 15. Be3 Rc7 16. Qd5 e6 17. Qd2 Ke7 18. O-O-O Qc8 19. Bxc5+ Ke8 20. Bxf8 Rxf8 21. Rhe1 Ke7 22. Qd6+ Ke8 23. Rd2 and black is helpless. 7...Nxe4 8. Qf3 Nc5 9. b4 Bb7 10. Nxb5 axb5 11. Bxb5+ Nbd7 12. bxc5 dxc5 13. Nf6+ gxf6 14. Qxb7 Rc8 15. Be3 e6 16. O-O-O Rc7 17. Rxd7 Qxd7 18. Qxc7 Qxb5 19. Rd1 Be7 20. Qc8+ and mate next move. |
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| Jul-04-24 | | N.O.F. NAJDORF: 7...Nxe4 8. Qf3 Nc5 9. b4 Bb7 10. Nxb5 axb5 11. Bxb5+ Nbd7 12. bxc5 Qa5+ 13. Bd2 Qxb5 14. Nc7+ Kd8 15. Nxb5 Bxf3 16. gxf3 Nxc5 and black stands better. |
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May-04-25
 | | clarklkzy: Fischer's move 7.Nd5 seems very strange to me. I don't understand the reasoning behind it. He breaks the general principle of moving the same piece twice in the opening (at the time he still had two undeveloped bishops)
and he left his pawn on e4 hanging, which was under attack. Can anyone help me understand the reason for this move? |
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May-04-25
 | | penarol: <clarklkzy> I wish I could answer your question.
To add to the puzzle I say that Stockfish 3 best moves are: 1) g4.(+0.38) 2) Nd5 (+0.34) 3) a4 (+0.17) (none of them a typical developing move).
So, we can see once again that Chess is deeper than some general principles we have been taught.
Besides, I am sure that many in this group will be able to answer your question. |
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May-04-25
| | penarol: I remember now that someone said that one thing that makes a distinction between very good and not so good players is that the former know when an "energetic" move in the opening is better than a developing one. Of course Bobby (among many others) is one of them! |
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May-04-25
| | penarol: Well, I found this game commented by Fischer in his book My memorable 60 games (Game 40).
He says that the idea of 7.Nd5 is to exploit the hole in c6. He adds that Najdorf probably underestimated this move that seems to violate the principle that a piece should not be moved twice in the opening. Finally he adds that 7.a4 is a good alternative. |
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| May-05-25 | | FM David H. Levin: <<Howard>: Who out there has access to a certain issue of Chess Life from mid-1986 which has Morphy and Fischer on the cover?> I don't have that issue in hard copy. However, PDF files of back issues of Chess Life that are at least a couple years old can be downloaded for free at <https://new.uschess.org/chess-life-...>. |
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| May-05-25 | | FM David H. Levin: Here are some thoughts on chess principles.
They came about because it was observed that certain kinds of moves were found to generally work well (for example, developing knights before bishops) or to work poorly (for example, moving a given piece twice in the opening). For the novice, such principles are enormously helpful because they provide ready-made answers to many questions that the player might have, thereby reducing the outstanding questions to a more manageable set. For an experienced player, principles are probably best taken as indicators as to when a type of move should be regarded skeptically: if a potential move violates one or more principles, it should be regarded as suspect unless a concrete justification for it can be found. |
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May-25-25
 | | GrahamClayton: Awesome game by Fischer. |
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