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Jun-02-14
 | | perfidious: The oft-quoted phrase by <yiotta> from Fischer is a typical piece of misdirection and as unworthy of attention, come to his pragmatic approach, as that old chestnut he threw out there on the King's Gambit. |
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| Dec-29-15 | | Eduardo Bermudez: Somewhere I read that Fischer himself considered this game very appropriate to characterize his style ! |
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May-30-16
 | | ToTheDeath: 14 Qb2? was a severe loss of time. Any modern master would play 14 d5! immediately with advantage. Soviet players like Spassky Tal and Polugayevsky worked out these positions in great detail. If White gets in the d5! push safely he almost always stands better. |
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Aug-13-18
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: White should have played 13.d5,exd5; 14.e5, a standard pawn sacrifice in this formation. I would have. Even if it didn't work in this specific position, at least I could say that Bobby didn't scare me. To paraphrase Faulkner, "He killed me, but he didn't beat me." |
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| Aug-13-18 | | newzild: This game really is in True Fischer Style.
"His play is so simple - like a child's" - Botvinnik |
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| Aug-13-18 | | thegoodanarchist: Alternate Pun:
"Ich beat ein Berliner" |
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| Aug-13-18 | | gars: <thegoodanarchist>: your pun is the better one, if not the best. |
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| Aug-13-18 | | WorstPlayerEver: <Crafty nov-28-03> 21. Bd3 Kg7 22. g3 Qf3 23. Re1 Rc5 24. Bc4 Bc6
'New' analysis: 25. Re3 Qh5 26. f3 Qg6 27. Re1 h5 28. Bd3 Qh6= 
click for larger view |
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| Aug-13-18 | | dumbgai: Berliner claimed to have “proven” that white wins with 1. d4. He was not successful in demonstration this principle in action. |
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| Aug-13-18 | | lzromeu: Another Fischer King March.
Maybe the first one on top level using The King as a fighting piece |
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| Aug-13-18 | | Strelets: <dumbgai> I heard that Berliner had pulled a Weaver Adams for the queen's pawn too. Do you know where he claims 1.d4 is a forced win with best play? |
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| Aug-13-18 | | dumbgai: In his book The System. I haven’t read it myself but Silman gives a (very unfavorable) review of it here: http://dev.jeremysilman.com/shop/pc.... Watson had a similar (but less negative) review, pointing out that Berliner’s opening recommendations are hardly winning, and in some cases have been refuted. |
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| Aug-13-18 | | Strelets: <Izromeu> Fischer would have gotten it from studying games by Wilhelm Steinitz. http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/... The section on Steinitz mentions how he considered the king a stronger piece than was generally thought. |
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| Aug-13-18 | | Strelets: <dumbgai> Wow. Just wow. 5...Qb6 against his pet line in the Slav and Black isn't lost by force, but already slightly better. I play the Grünfeld as Black and I can tell you that Black equalizes with 12...Qa3! in the line of the Exchange that Silman mentions and is nowhere even close to losing. Dragging poor Bronstein into the conversation just makes it worse in light of the fact that his theoretical duels with Boleslavsky (Budapest Candidates 1950; Moscow playoff match 1950) were of pioneering significance to the development of the 7.Bc4 Exchange Grünfeld. |
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| Aug-13-18 | | dumbgai: <Strelets> Actually, I misremembered. Watson's review is even more negative than Silman's. Here's what he had to say about The System: <If it weren’t for his overbearing style, deceptive presentation, and
obvious disrespect for the great chessplayers past and present, I might just write off Berliner’s book as nonsense. As it is, I think that it is a careless and dishonest effort that represents the very worst in chess writing.> And:
<THE SYSTEM turns out to be a lazily written collection of dogmatic claims, banalities, and awful analysis, colored throughout by an arrogance that fails to disguise the book’s ultimate shallowness.> The Gruenfeld line is especially egregious. Watson is an expert in that opening and characterized Berliner's analysis as completely incorrect. |
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| Aug-13-18 | | cormier: 
click for larger viewAnalysis by Houdini 4: d 25 dpa
1. = (0.07): 4...exd5 5.Bf4 Bd6 6.Bxd6 Qxd6 7.e3 Bf5 8.Bd3 Bxd3 9.Qxd3 0-0 10.h3 c6 11.Nge2 Na6 12.0-0 Nc7 13.f3 Nd7 14.e4 f6 15.Rac1 Rfe8 16.Rfe1 Nb6 17.b3 Ne6 18.Qe3 Rad8 19.e5 fxe5 20.dxe5 2. + / = (0.46): 4...Nxd5 5.e4 Nxc3 6.bxc3 Be7 7.Nf3 0-0 8.Bd3 b6 9.0-0 Bb7 10.Qc2 h6 11.Bf4 Nd7 12.Rad1 a6 13.h3 c5 14.Be2 cxd4 15.Rxd4 Qc8 16.Rfd1 Nc5 17.Ne5 Bf6 18.Bh2 a5 19.a4 Qc7 |
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| Aug-13-18 | | cormier:
click for larger viewAnalysis by Houdini 4: d 26 not dpa
1. = (0.15): 4...exd5 5.Bg5 Be6 6.e3 Bd6 7.Nge2 Nbd7 8.Bf4 Qe7 9.Nb5 Bxf4 10.Nxf4 Nb6 11.Nc3 c6 12.Bd3 0-0 13.0-0 Nc8 14.Na4 Nd6 15.Qc2 g6 16.Nc5 Bf5 17.Bxf5 Nxf5 18.Nfd3 Ne4 19.Rac1 Nfd6 |
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| Aug-13-18 | | Chessonly: Here is also some example of queens gambit trap: https://www.chessonly.com/queens-ga... |
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| Aug-14-18 | | cormier: 
click for larger viewAnalysis by Houdini 4 Pro w32: d 28 dpa done
<1. + / = (0.34): 13.Rfe1> h6 14.Rad1 Nd7 15.a4 Rb8 16.Rb1 Qe7 17.a5 Rfc8 18.h3 Rc7 19.Rb3 Rbc8 20.axb6 Nxb6 21.Ra1 Ba8 22.Qf4 Nc4 23.Bxc4 Rxc4 24.Rb8 g5 25.Qe5 Rxb8 26.Qxb8+ Qf8 27.Qxf8+ Kxf8 28.Ne5 Rxd4 ---
and 2&3 d dpa 27 done
<the line played here say's 2. + / = (0.27): 13.Rad1 Nd7> 14.Rfe1 Rc8 15.a4 Nf6 16.Rb1 Qc7 17.Rbc1 Qe7 18.Ra1 a5 19.Rab1 Nd7 20.Bb5 Nf6 21.Qd3 Rfd8 22.Ne5 h6 23.f3 Nh5 24.g3 Qd6 25.Red1 3. = (0.23): 13.Rac1 h6 14.Rfe1 Nd7 15.a4 Rc8 16.Rb1 a5 17.Qb2 Qe7 18.Nd2 Rfd8 19.Re3 Rc7 20.e5 Rdc8 21.h3 f5 22.exf6 Qxf6 23.Ne4 Qe7 24.Qd2 Kh8 25.f3 Bd5 26.Ree1 Kg8 27.Rec1 |
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| Aug-14-18 | | cormier:
click for larger viewAnalysis by Houdini 4: d 29 dpa 1
1. + / = (0.32): 13.Rfe1 h6 14.Rad1 Nd7 15.a4 Rb8 16.Rb1 Qe7 17.a5 Rfc8 18.h3 Rc7 19.Rb3 Rbc8 20.axb6 Nxb6 21.Reb1 Ba8 22.Qe3 f6 23.Ba6 Bb7 24.Bb5 Rc2 25.Ra1 Ba8 26.Ne1 Nc4 d 28 dpa done 2&3
2. + / = (0.26): 13.Rad1 Nd7 14.Qe3 h6 15.e5 Bd5 16.Nd2 Qg5 17.Be4 Qxe3 18.fxe3 b5 19.Rb1 a6 20.Bxd5 exd5 21.Rbc1 Nb6 22.Rc6 Nc4 23.Nxc4 dxc4 24.Kf2 Rac8 25.Rd6 Rcd8 26.e4 f6 27.Ke3 fxe5 28.Rxf8+ Rxf8 29.dxe5 Kf7 30.Rxa6 Ke7 3. = (0.24): 13.Rac1 h6 14.Rfe1 Nd7 15.e5 Bxf3 16.gxf3 Rc8 17.Rxc8 Qxc8 18.Kh1 Qa8 19.Be4 Qd8 20.Qe3 f5 21.Bd3 Qh4 22.Bc4 Re8 23.f4 Kh7 24.Qg3 Qxg3 25.fxg3 Nf8 26.d5 Rc8 27.Bb3 exd5 |
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| Aug-14-18 | | clement41: Amazing game, highly instructive, thanks vm for sharing the golden Fischer annotations! |
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| Aug-14-18 | | Strelets: <dumbgai> The late Tony Miles authored the most succinct book review in the history of chess: "Utter crap." I think this "System" deserves this same accolade. |
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| Aug-14-18 | | cormier: 
click for larger viewAnalysis by Houdini 4
14.d5 exd5 15.exd5 Na5 16.d6 Bxf3 17.gxf3 Qf6 18.Rac1 Qxf3 19.Be2 Qf6 20.Rc7 Rad8 21.d7 Qe6 22.Qe3 Qxa2 23.Kg2 Qb2 24.Rxa7 Qf6 25.Rc7 h6 26.Kg1 Qg6+ 27.Qg3 Qe6 28.Bf1 Qf5 29.Rd6 b5 30.Bd3 Qh5 31.Rf6 Qg5
+ / = (0.41) Depth: 22 dpa
<<14.d5> Na5> 15.dxe6 fxe6 16.Rac1 Rc8 17.Rxc8 Bxc8 18.Qe3 Qe7 19.Nd4 Nb7 20.Bc4 Nc5 21.e5 Bb7 22.f4 g6 23.Nb3 Ba6 24.Nxc5 Bxc4 25.Ne4 Kg7 26.Nd6 Bd5 27.Rc1 h6 28.Qf2 Kh7 29.a4 Rd8 30.Qd2
+ / = (0.39) Depth: 29 dpa |
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| Aug-31-19 | | parisattack: <Eduardo Bermudez: Somewhere I read that Fischer himself considered this game very appropriate to characterize his style !> Fischer Talks Chess - Chess Life, September 1963. ""It is difficult to find one particular game that is typical of my 'style'" This comes close. |
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| Nov-30-19 | | Howard: In his book Fischer: His Approach to Chess, Ager states that Fischer could have won outright with 22...Rc2! |
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