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| Nov-29-20 | | RoseMei: I don't understand the pun. Please explain. Thanks. |
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| Nov-29-20 | | acapo: Can someone explain why the advertisements keep popping up covering part of the board? this is really disturbing |
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| Nov-29-20 | | Brenin: <RoseMei>: It's a quotation from the film "The Godfather, Part II". See the YouTube link above. The pun involves the names Fred Yates and Fredo Corleone. |
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| Nov-29-20 | | SChesshevsky: After 47...b4, seems Fredo banging out passed pawns two at a time. |
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| Nov-29-20 | | morfishine: This game title is sure to be a hit |
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Nov-29-20
 | | maytintan: <acapo>
if you are a member, go to your profile, edit preferencies, do not display ads |
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Nov-29-20
| | Knightf7mate: Ah!! Thanks those ads are worse than annoying |
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| Nov-29-20 | | morfishine: This game title is sure to be a hit |
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| Feb-04-21 | | N.O.F. NAJDORF: Yes, Granny.
I think I must have overlooked
33 Bg6 Qe3+
34 Kh1 Qh3+
If 34 Kh2 Qxe5+
and if
34 Rf2 Rc1 is crushing |
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| Mar-26-21 | | N.O.F. NAJDORF: I can't believe I wrote,
'if 34 Rf2 Rc1 is crushing'!
I overlooked 35 Qxf7 mate!
It seems that Honza Cervenka's analysis, as well as my earlier one, of 33 Bg6, are sound. Why indeed did Alekhine not play 33 Bg6 ? |
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| Apr-10-21 | | N.O.F. NAJDORF: Maybe Yates would have answered 33 Bg6 as in the game and a draw would have resulted: 33 Bg6 Ke8
34 Rxf7 Rxf7
35 Qxf7+ Kd8
36 Qf8+ Kc7
37 Qd6+ Kb7
38 Bh5 Rc1
39 Qd7+
Or 36 Rxd5+ exd5
37 Qxd5+ Kc7
38 Qd6+ Kb7
39 Be4+ Ka6 |
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Apr-10-21
 | | beatgiant: <N.O.F. NAJDORF>
After your suggested 33. Bg6 Ke8 34. Rxf7 Rxf7 35. Qxf7+ Kd8, White has <36. Qxe6> with what looks like a huge advantage. |
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Nov-24-21
 | | kingscrusher: Checking out this game because of this page:
https://www.chesshistory.com/winter...B.H.Wood's column page 74 in particular....
"Yates many times British champion defeated Alekhine twice in immortal games....." |
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| May-30-22 | | N.O.F. NAJDORF: <beatgiant: <N.O.F. NAJDORF> After your suggested 33. Bg6 Ke8 34. Rxf7 Rxf7 35. Qxf7+ Kd8, White has <36. Qxe6> with what looks like a huge advantage.> After
33. Bg6 Ke8 34. Rxf7 Rxf7 35. Qxf7+ Kd8 36. Qxe6 Qe3+ 37. Kf1 Qf4+ 38. Ke2 Qc4+ 39. Bd3 Bf3+ 40. gxf3 Qxe6 41. Bf5+ Ke7 42. Bxe6 Kxe6 white is two pawns up but cannot save both his b-pawn and e-pawn. He emerges a pawn up.
After, for example,
43. Rd6+ Kxe5 44. Rxh6 Rc2+ 45. Ke3 Rxb2 46. f4+ Kd5 47. g5 Rb3+ 48. Kf2 Rxa3 49. g6 Ra2+ 50. Kf3 Ra3+ 51. Kg4 Ra1 52. f5 Ke5 white is struggling to make any progress. |
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May-31-22
| | beatgiant: <N.O.F. NAJDORF>
But after 33. Bg6 Ke8 34. Rxf7 Rxf7 35. Qxf7+ Kd8 36. Qxe6 Qe3+, White can reply <37. Kh2> Qf4+ 38. Kh3 Qe3+ 39. g3, when Black runs out of checks and faces a crushing attack. Do you see a defense? |
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| May-31-22 | | Granny O Doul: To be clear, I wasn't suggesting Black was ok, just guessing what AAA had missed. Admittedly, a presumptuous exercise. By the way, early in Rickey Henderson's career, he once explained the pleasure he took in beating the California Angels, due to some members of the latter team calling his team "the Triple A's" during Henderson's rookie year (1979) when the Angels were winning the AL West. |
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May-31-22
 | | fredthebear: Rickey Henderson was 20 years old when he broke into the big leagues on June 24, 1979, with the Oakland Athletics, a.k.a. the A's. (Triple A is a reference to minor league ballplayers hoping to reach the major leagues.) Henderson stole 100 bases in his first full season the following year, a rare feat. He is the only MLB player to have stolen more than 1,000 bases in a career. Henderson retired as the all-time leader in walks (base on balls) as well. The "Man of Steal" was inducted to the Baseball Hall of Fame on his first ballot appearance. Although Alexander Alekhine was put in jail a few times, there seems to be no evidence of him stealing anything, other than taking his opponent's pieces off the board, and occasionally altering scoresheets! Here's a very brief video off AA:
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...
Gangsta! |
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| Dec-21-22 | | N.O.F. NAJDORF: < beatgiant: <N.O.F. NAJDORF> But after 33. Bg6 Ke8 34. Rxf7 Rxf7 35. Qxf7+ Kd8 36. Qxe6 Qe3+, White can reply <37. Kh2> Qf4+ 38. Kh3 Qe3+ 39. g3, when Black runs out of checks and faces a crushing attack. Do you see a defense?> Sorry for the delay in replying.
No - I don't.
Kh2 works in the following variation too:
33. Bg6 Ke8 34. Rxf7 Qe3+ 35. Kh2 Qxe5+ 36. Kh1 Rxf7 37. Qxf7+ Kd8 38. Qe8+ Kc7 39. Rc1+ I have been trying to find a video commentary on this game online but every time I find one, it is of Yates' loss to Alekhine at the London tournament of the same year. I wonder whether the reason Alekhine did not play 33 Bg6 was that he calculated: 33. Bg6 Qe3+ 34. Rf2 Ke8 35. Qg8+ Kd7 36. Qxf7+ Kc6 37. Qf4 Qxf4 38. Rxf4 Kb5 as the likely continuation and that black seems to have good drawing chances. |
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| Dec-21-22 | | N.O.F. NAJDORF: In answer to my own question:
33. Bg6 Qe3+ 34. Rf2 Ke8 35. Bxf7+ Ke7 36. Bxe6+ Kxe6 37. Qf5+ Ke7 38. Qf7+ Kd8 39. Rxd5+ Rd7 40. Qxd7# I don't see how Alekhine could have failed to win the game if he had played 33 Bg6. |
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| Dec-22-22 | | N.O.F. NAJDORF: < beatgiant: <N.O.F. NAJDORF> But after 33. Bg6 Ke8 34. Rxf7 Rxf7 35. Qxf7+ Kd8 36. Qxe6 Qe3+, White can reply <37. Kh2> Qf4+ 38. Kh3 Qe3+ 39. g3, when Black runs out of checks and faces a crushing attack. Do you see a defense?> The only defence I can see is 36 ... Rc1
but it is easily refuted:
33. Bg6 Ke8 34. Rxf7 Rxf7 35. Qxf7+ Kd8 36. Qxe6 Rc1 37. Qxd5+ Kc8 38. Qa8+ Kc7 39. Qxa7+ Kc6 40. Be8+ Kc5 41. Qc7# 33. Bg6 Ke8 34. Rxf7 Rxf7 35. Qxf7+ Kd8 36. Qxe6 Rc1 37. Qxd5+ Kc7 38. Qd6+ Kc8 39. Bf5+ Kb7 40. Qd7+ Kb8 41. Qe8+ Kb7 42. Be4+ Kc7 43. Qd7+ Kb8 44. Qb7# 33. Bg6 Ke8 34. Rxf7 Rxf7 35. Qxf7+ Kd8 36. Qxe6 Rc1 37. Qxd5+ Kc7 38. Qd6+ Kb7 39. Be4+ Ka6 40. Bd3+ Kb7 41. Qd7+ Rc7 42. Be4+ Kb8 43. Qd5 Rg7 44. Qa8+ Kc7 45. Qb7# |
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| Dec-23-22 | | N.O.F. NAJDORF: <N.O.F. NAJDORF: In answer to my own question:
33. Bg6 Qe3+ 34. Rf2 Ke8 35. Bxf7+ Ke7 36. Bxe6+ Kxe6 37. Qf5+ Ke7 38. Qf7+ Kd8 39. Rxd5+ Rd7 40. Qxd7# I don't see how Alekhine could have failed to win the game if he had played 33 Bg6.> Correction:
33. Bg6 Qe3+ 34. Rf2 Ke8 35. Bxf7+ Ke7 36. Bxe6+ Kxe6 37. Qf5+ Ke7 38. Qf6+ Ke8 39. Rxd5 wins Another possibility is:
33. Bg6 Qe3+ 34. Rf2 a5 35. Qh8+ (35 Bxf7 Qxf2+) Ke7 36. Qf6+ Kd7 37. Rxd5+ exd5 38. Qd6+ Ke8 39. e6 Rc1+ 40. Kh2 Qxf2 41. exf7+ Qxf7 42. Qe6+ Kd8 43. Bxf7 R8c6 44. Qxd5+ Ke7 45. Bg8 R1c5 46. Qd4 Rf6 47. Bh7 Kf7 48. Bf5 Rc7 49. Qd5+ Kg7 50. Kg3 Rcf7 51. Kh4 Rc7 52. g5 hxg5+ 53. Kxg5 Rfc6 54. Qe5+ Kf7 55. g4 Rf6 56. Kh4 Rfc6 57. g5 Rc4+ 58. Be4 and wines |
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Dec-23-22
 | | HeMateMe: If only Alekhine had given Capa a rematch one year later, think of all the great chess that was lost over vanity. |
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| Jul-20-23 | | N.O.F. NAJDORF: I think that after
33. Bg6 Qe3+ 34. Rf2 Qc5
there is no clear win for white, although I do not think Alekhine saw that move. I think he sacrificed the exchange in order to be able to meet ... Qe3+ with Kh1. I think he may have overlooked 34 ... Ke8. |
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Jul-20-23
| | beatgiant: <N.O.F. NAJDORF> After 33. Bg6 Qe3+ 34. Rf2 Qc5, I see several clear wins for White, maybe the simplest being 35. b4. |
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| Jul-21-23 | | N.O.F. NAJDORF: I am very happy to have that line refuted, as I have been arguing all along that white should have played 33. Bg6 ! I have been trying to come up with a refutation of it, but it seems there is none. |
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