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Jul-30-06 | | Fezzik: I woulda played 29...Qa7+. I don't know if Percy Blakeney's line is a refutation, but I missed 31.Qd3 too. Nice find, Percy! |
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Jul-30-06 | | Nulfinator: What have I missed?
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.Nc3 a6 4.d4 cxd4
5.Nxd4 Qc7 6.g3 Bb4 7.Ne2
Did the knight move create a discovered check making it an illegal move? |
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Jul-30-06 | | EmperorAtahualpa: <Nulfinator>
?? I guess you're having trouble loading the MyChess java-viewer? Otherwise you would never have asked this question. Obviously White at move 7 moves the king's knight on d4, not the queen's knight on c3. |
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Jul-30-06 | | EmperorAtahualpa: Concerning the puzzle, my first guess was Nc3+, which was actually also preferred by Rybka (thanks <RandomVisitor>), but I completely missed Qa7+, which was much more important. |
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Jul-30-06 | | Aspirador: Black is OK! |
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Jul-30-06 | | rookattack: Perhaps an amateur's question but Why does white play 24.c6 ? |
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Jul-30-06 | | EmperorAtahualpa: <Black is OK!> LOL, even though Adorjan is not handling the Black pieces... |
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Jul-30-06
 | | Peligroso Patzer: <Nulfinator: What have I missed? 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.Nc3 a6 4.d4 cxd4
5.Nxd4 Qc7 6.g3 Bb4 7.Ne2
Did the knight move create a discovered check making it an illegal move?> It was the Knight on d4 that moved to e2. It was not necessary to record the move as 7. Nde2 because, as you point out, any move by White's Knight on the c-file would be illegal. |
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Jul-30-06 | | RandomVisitor: After 24 ply search:
1: Adorjan Andras (HUN) - Basman Michael J (ENG), Hastings (England) 1973
 click for larger viewAnalysis by Rybka 2.1c mp:
1. µ (-1.28): 29...Nd3+ 30.Ke3 Nxc1 31.Qxc1 Qa7+ 32.Kd2 Rc8 33.Bh3 f5 34.Nd4 Rd8 35.Kc2 Rxd4 36.Qe3 2. µ (-1.18): 29...Qa7+ 30.Ke1 Rc8 31.Nd4 Nd3+ 32.Kd1 e5 33.Bh3 Rd8 34.Rb1 Nc5 35.Qb2 Nxe4 36.Be6+ 3. µ (-0.90): 29...Ng4+ 30.Ke1 Qa7 31.Qd3 Rxc3 32.Qd8+ Kf7 33.Rxc3 Qf2+ 34.Kd2 Qxe2+ 35.Kc1 Ne5 36.Qd2 (, 30.07.2006)
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Jul-30-06
 | | Peligroso Patzer: <Aspirador: Black is OK!> LOL; and it is further noted that the one other game in the CG database between these players (London 1975) also had a 0-1 result (with Adorjan playing Black on that occasion), so as of 1975, Black [was] still OK! |
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Jul-30-06 | | luzhin: A reminder of what Mike Basman might have achieved if he had played sensible openings more often. Even I managed to beat him once, and it was only because he played the opening in his normal bizarre fashion. The best part of this game is the manoeuvre 10..f6 and 13..Rf7. Pure Basmanic genius. |
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Jul-30-06
 | | LIFE Master AJ: I came up with 29...Qa7+ and 30...Ng4. But it looked so simple, and since it was Sunday, I refused to believe it was that easy. |
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Jul-30-06 | | RandomVisitor: After White's 26th move 26.Rxd7
 click for larger viewBlack missed 26...Bxf2! -2.78/21
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Jul-30-06
 | | Richard Taylor: Qa7 was fairly obvious - a great attack by Black. |
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Jul-30-06 | | Nulfinator: Isn't the 7.Ne2 an illegal move?
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.Nc3 a6 4.d4 cxd4
5.Nxd4 Qc7 6.g3 Bb4 7.Ne2 |
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Jul-30-06
 | | paulalbert: N on d4 goes to e2, not pinned N on c3. |
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Jul-30-06 | | patzer2: The puzzle solution 29...Qa7+! is a practical solution to the followup of a sacrifice in a pursuit combination, intended to flush out the King for a devastating attack on the exposed monarch. As the game continuation shows, and the analyses in the kibitzing here indicates,
such attacks must be played with precision (especially when down material). Michael Basman was apparently a master of such attacks. While the computers may like the more straight forward and methodical apprach with 29...Nd3+!, IMHO the game continuation offers Black more practical chances in an OTB game against a human opponent. |
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Jul-30-06 | | Trouble: interesting problem |
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Jul-30-06 | | BipolarChessorder: Why not play 30.Bd4 in response to 29...Qa7+?
30. Bd4 Rxc2 31. Bxa7 Rxe2+ 32. Kg1 and I don't see anything conclusive
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30...Ng4+ 31. Kg1 (all other moves seem to be worse)
anyone see something wrong with this? |
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Jul-30-06 | | BipolarChessorder: on further reflection...
29...Qa7+ 30. Bd4 Rxd4 31. Nxd4 Qxd4+ 32. Kel Qg1+ or Qe3+ looks like curtains. |
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Jul-30-06 | | RandomVisitor: Final computer post:
After 26 ply search (22 hours!)
1: Adorjan Andras (HUN) - Basman Michael J (ENG), Hastings (England) 1973
 click for larger viewAnalysis by Rybka 2.1c mp:
1. µ (-1.34): 29...Qa7+ 30.Ke1 Rc8 31.Qd2 Nd3+ 32.Kd1 Rd8 33.Bd4 Qb8 34.Ra1 Qb5 35.a3 e5 36.Qa2+ 2. µ (-1.28): 29...Nd3+ 30.Ke3 Nxc1 31.Qxc1 Qa7+ 32.Kd2 Rc8 33.Bh3 f5 34.Nd4 Rd8 35.Kc2 Rxd4 36.Qe3 3. µ (-0.91): 29...Ng4+ 30.Ke1 Qa7 31.Qd3 Rxc3 32.Qd8+ Kf7 33.Rxc3 Qf2+ 34.Kd2 Qxe2+ 35.Kc1 Ne5 36.Qd2 (, 30.07.2006)
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Jul-30-06 | | Tariqov: Missed it,i chose the same as <dzechiel>'s line, i thought after 30.Ke1 to play Qe3!? and then my calculation was 31.Qd2Nd3+ 32.Kd1Nf2+ 33.Kc2(i think Black wouldn't mine to get a perpetual with Ke1-d1,etc.)Rxc3!? 34.Qxc3(Nxc3? Bd3+)Qxe2+ 35.Qd2Bd3+ and Nxe4+ with a B and 2 pawns againts one rook , seems okay to me,any flaws in my calculation?? |
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Jul-30-06 | | kevin86: Today was the day foe the LONG check at a7.
Congrats on chessgames' data base reaching 400,000 games!!! |
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Jul-30-06 | | quickbolt: <29. ... Qa7+ 30. Ke1 Ng4 31. Qd3 Rxc3 32. Qd8+ Kf7 33. Rxc3 Qf2+ 34. Kd2 Qxe2+ 35. Kc1 Qxg2 36. Rc7+ Kg6 37. Rxg7> and it is in fact White who is being checkmated after 37..Qg1+! |
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Jan-06-13 | | JohnBoy: Basman - the Dark Knight Rises |
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