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Andras Adorjan vs Gabor Glatt
Elekes Memorial 7th (1982), Budapest HUN, rd 6, Jun-??
English Opening: King's English. Four Knights Variation Fianchetto Lines (A29)  ·  1-0

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Jan-28-07
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  al wazir: <Richard Taylor>: Thanks for a rational response to my bleat. To be honest, if I had reached the same position on move 14, I would probably have made a speculative sacrifice too, but not the same one.

I would have played 14. Qh5+. (I don't like 14. Nc4/Ng4 Bxf4 15. gxf4 because it would weaken my ♔ and pawns.) After 14. Qh5+ g6 15. Nxg6 Nxg6 16. Rxc8+ Qxc8 17. Bxd6, I think white has fair prospects. The continuation might be 17...Qc6 18. Bf4 d5 19. Rc1.

Jan-28-07  LaSmitedCrab: heh got it. so many canidate moves, and...well...took me a while to sort them out.
Jan-28-07  ianD: I kept wanting to play Bxe5. I wish i has spent more time on this puzzle because Rxc8 become more obvious. Alas I was rushed this morning when I looked at this I missed it.

At least tomorrow is moday!!

Jan-28-07  dzechiel: <Fisheremon> Better 25.Bf6+ with mate end.

Can't the black king escape to c7 (with the knight blocking the rook)?

Jan-28-07
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  thegoodanarchist: in the final position, black's extra rook is quite useless
Jan-28-07  THE pawn: I got the first few moves, but after 20.Ke7 I couldn't see 21. Re1 so I thought I screwed up...nice though that I got Rxc8!. But as usual, I wouldn't have seen that in a game.
Jan-28-07  pcvandelay: Hey guys,

I don't understand why black doesn't like his chances (or at least keep fighting) after 25...Qxc1. This leaves him down 2 pawns but with 2 rooks to whites queen?

Any thoughts?

Jan-28-07  ALEXIN: I got it ! I think that the first move (18.RxB) is the more difficult one.
Jan-28-07
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  Richard Taylor: <THE pawn: I got the first few moves, but after 20.Ke7 I couldn't see 21. Re1 so I thought I screwed up...nice though that I got Rxc8!. But as usual, I wouldn't have seen that in a game.>

I found the moves but I missed Re1 but in fact I am sure that what I saw - Qg5+ also wins.

You might look for Rxc8+ OTB also - as the knight is a kind of keystone for Black and the pin etc - all the elements of the position cry out for something!

Jan-28-07
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  Richard Taylor: <al wazir> Thanks. Yes Qh5+ looks interesting - Adorjan played a great game - I recall playing over his and Riblis games in the 80s.
Jan-28-07  sambo: I saw this move only because it was the Sunday problem of the day. I wasn't even close to calcuating the whole sequence but it seemed the only possible chance. I saw that if 18. Rxd8 Qxd8 then white would definitely be better and since that meant 18. ... Nxd8 was forced, I was able to see a little farther; I often have difficulty with these puzzles when the first response move isn't forced.

Of course it's nothing I'd be remotely near in real over the board play, but it stands as probably the most difficult problem I've gotten on here yet so I'll take what I can get.

Jan-28-07  Themofro: Rxc8 wasn't that hard for me to find, but took a while to work out the rest, nice game.
Jan-29-07  Fisheremon: <dzechiel: <Fisheremon> Better 25.Bf6+ with mate end.

Can't the black king escape to c7 (with the knight blocking the rook)?> Here's the line (24...Nc6) 25.Bf6+ Ne7 (remember that White's Queen on f4, if 25...Ke8, then 26.Re1+) 26.Bxe7+ Ke8 27.Re1 etc.

Jan-29-07
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  kevin86: A brilliant combination by white! Strange how black's pieces are constantly being overworked! Eventually,the poor queen is trapped.
Mar-29-07
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  gambitfan: This game was puzzle of the day...

White to play (18.


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Jan-12-20
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: Had the exact same result as 13 years ago! See page 1. Saw a lot, but not enough to claim credit.
Jan-12-20  Jambow: Missed the initial deflection let alone the impressive sequence that followed... Nice combination to observe...
Jan-12-20  scormus: An elegant, clean and overwhelmingly winning combination. Adorjan must have been very satisfied with that. And so was I ;)
Jan-12-20
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  agb2002: White is a knight down.

The black knight protects the bishop on c8 and g6. This suggests 18.Rxc8+:

A) 18... Nxc8 19.Bxg6+

A.1) 19... hxg6 20.Qxg6+

A.1.a) 20... Kd8 21.Qg5+ Ne7 (else followed by Bxe5 and Bxh8 wins decisive material) 22.Bxe5 Rg8 23.Qf6 d6 (23... Rg6 24.Qf8#; 23... Qc8 24.Bd4 Re8 25.Re1 wins) 24.Bxd6 wins decisive material.

A.1.b) 20... Kf8 21.Qf5+ Kg8 22.Bxe5 d6 23.Qg6+ Kf8 24.Qg7+ Ke8 25.Bf6 followed by Re1+ and mate next.

A.1.c) 20... Ke7 21.Qg5+ Bf6 22.Re1+ Kf7 23.Qh5+ and mate in two.

A.2) 19... Kd8 20.Qg5+ Ne7 21.Bxe5 is similar to A.1.

A.3) 19... Ke7 20.Qg5+ Bf6 21.Re1+ wins.

B) 18... Qxc8 19.Bxe5 looks winning in spite of the material deficit. For example, 19... Rg8 20.Bd6 Qc4 21.Re1 Qf7 22.Bxb7 wins.

Jan-12-20  Walter Glattke: WBP said, 24.-Qxc1+ 25.Qxc1 2P or 24.-Nc6? e.g. 25.Bf6+ Ke8 26.Re1+ Kf7 27.Bc3+ Kg6 28.Qf6+ Kh7 29.Re4 e.g. 29.-Rg6 30.Rh4+ and mate next, 24.-Nc6? 25.Bf6+ Ne7 also possible 27.Rxc8+ Rxc8 28.Qb4 Re8 29.Qxb7 a5 30.h4 Rc1+ 31.Kg2 Rg8 32.h5 wins
Jan-12-20  Pawn Slayer: I got this through to 24 Rc1, but after 24...Qxc1+ 25 Qxc1 Rc8, I wasn't sure that black couldn't organise a defence with 2R v Q+2P.
Jan-12-20  seneca16: I didn't think this was so hard. Once you see Rxc8 where the Q is forced to recapture you see that Bg6 is now possible and black must lose the bishop on e5 and the e file is cleared. After that I imagine there are multiple ways to win.
Jan-12-20
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Jan-12-20  RandomVisitor: After 17...Bxe5


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<55/90 6:45:32 +8.03 18.Rxc8+ Nxc8 19.Bxg6+ hxg6 20.Qxg6+ Ke7> 21.Re1 Qd6 22.Qg7+ Kd8 23.Bxe5 Qh6 24.Qxh8+ Qxh8 25.Bxh8 d5 26.Bf6+ Kd7 27.h4 Nd6 28.h5 Rf8 29.Re7+ Kc6 30.Bg7 Rg8 31.h6 Nf5 32.Rf7 Nxh6 33.Bxh6 Kd6 34.Kg2 Ke6 35.Rxb7 d4 36.Kf3 Rc8 37.Bd2 Kd5 38.Rd7+ Kc6 39.Rxa7 Re8 40.Ra4 Kd5 41.b3 Re7 42.Rc4 Rh7 43.Ke2 Rh2 44.Bf4 Rg2 45.a4 Rh2 46.Kf3 Rh7 47.Rc7 Rh1 48.Rd7+ Kc5 49.Bd2 Ra1 50.Ke4 Kc6 51.Rxd4 Ra3 52.Rb4 Ra1 53.Kf5

<55/96 6:45:32 +6.18 18.Rfe1> d6 19.Bg5 Bf5 20.Bg2 Qd8 21.f4 Rc8 22.Rcd1 Be6 23.fxe5 Nf5 24.Bxd8 Nxh6 25.Bg5 Nf5 26.exd6 Kd7 27.g4 Ng7 28.Bf6 Rhg8 29.Bxb7 Rc4 30.h3 Rb8 31.Bg2 Ne8 32.Bc3 Rcc8 33.Rxe6 Kxe6 34.d7 Rd8 35.dxe8Q+ Rxe8 36.Bd5+ Ke7 37.Bb3 Rf8 38.Kg2 Rb7 39.Rd3 Rfb8 40.g5 Kf8 41.Be5 Rc8 42.Rf3+ Ke8 43.Bf6 Kf8 44.Bd4+ Ke8 45.Rd3 Kf8 46.Be5 Ke8 47.Kg3 Ke7 48.Bf6+ Ke8 49.Be6 Rcb8 50.Bd5 Rxb2 51.Bxb2 Rxb2 52.Ra3 Kf8 53.Rxa7 Rd2 54.Bf3 Rd3 55.Kf4

54/98 6:45:32 +4.87 18.Rce1 Kd8 19.Bd5 Bxf4 20.gxf4 Qd6 21.Qg7 Re8 22.Bf7 Qxf4 23.f3 a5 24.Bxe8 Nc6 25.Qxh7 Ra6 26.Bxg6 Kc7 27.Re4 Qd2 28.Re8 Ne7 29.Bb1 Qg5+ 30.Kh1 Re6 31.Be4 Kb6 32.f4 Qf6 33.Bg2 d5 34.Bxd5 Bd7 35.Rb8 Rc6 36.Bg2 Ka7 37.Rd8 Rc7 38.Qd3 Bc6 39.Qe3+ b6 40.Bxc6 Nxc6 41.Rd5 Qxb2 42.Rfd1 Nb8 43.Rxa5+ Na6 44.Ra3 Qc2 45.Qd3 Qxd3 46.Rdxd3 Kb7 47.f5 Nc5 48.Rd4 Kc6 49.h4 Rf7 50.Rf3 Ne6 51.Rb4 Nc5 52.f6 b5 53.h5

Jan-12-20  Cheapo by the Dozen: Often I look at a puzzle, see the obvious possibility for the first few moves, and figure I might actually play that line on Spielmannesque faith. Not this time. The first couple of moves put White into a deep material hole with few pieces left for the attack. Either you calculate that line to a reassuring conclusion or you don't play it at all.
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