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Mikhail Botvinnik vs Tigran V Petrosian
Botvinnik - Petrosian World Championship Match (1963), Moscow URS, rd 18, May-08
Queen's Gambit Declined: Charousek (Petrosian) Variation (D31)  ·  0-1

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Jun-10-09  Professeur Y: Very instructive stuff; how to slowly improve your position. Beautiful. There is a nice four part video analysis of this game posted on ChessCafe (from a site called Letsplaychess.com): http://www.chesscafe.com/video/vide... (you have to scroll down the list of previously posted videos)
Oct-29-09
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  arsen387: I guess it's the same 4 part video that I was just watching on youtube, starting with http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fuO... (the 1st part). A great video indeed
Nov-20-10  Everett: Question is: 24..g5 <according to Crouch> is actually a blunder that could have cost Petrosian the game after 25.Nh5, letting the knight infiltrate the holes in black's k-side. The possible exchange sac 25..Rxh5 does not help black. What then is black's best approach on move 24?
Nov-20-10  kingfu: 24... f5, perhaps?

Where is the black King going? Would ... 0-0-0 suffice at some point? Castling Kingside for black seems weak.

This a hugely tough position to evaluate, especially for us amateurs.

Everett brings up valid questions, when answered with analysis, could bring us some new insight into the minds of a couple of great Chess players.

May-31-11
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  Ulhumbrus: <Everett: Question is: 24..g5 <according to Crouch> is actually a blunder that could have cost Petrosian the game after 25.Nh5, letting the knight infiltrate the holes in black's k-side. The possible exchange sac 25..Rxh5 does not help black. What then is black's best approach on move 24?> Perhaps a move which prepares the advance ...g5 by avoiding the fork Nf6+ following Nh5 eg 24..Qc7 or 24...Rh6
May-31-11
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  Ulhumbrus: How does Petrosian make use of his Knights which are placed so attractively on d6 and e5, in the position after 49 exf5? The answer is that he blows the game open by advancing his c5 and b6 pawns to c4 and b5 in the face of White's b3 and a4 pawns, respectively.
Mar-03-12  lopezexchange: Why not 16.e4! this seems to be giving black some major headaches with the king left in the center.
Nov-28-12
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  tjipa: What a weird discussion! I just happened to read what was going on right here in 2006-07. I came to look at the game, while reading Kasparov's book on his Karpov matches, vol. 1, where he remembers, with respect, the moment of Petrosian's passing. To look at a Petrosian's win against Botvinnik in 1963. A great win it is, isn't it? And 2 great players in action - and all this bickering as a contrast... sorry...
Nov-28-12  SChesshevsky: Some very nice play by Petrosian.

What I thought was a great advantage was his play to exchange the dark squared B's.

I'm not sure when he came upon the plan but after 25...Qc7 it looks like he positioned for White to have plenty of pawns on the White squares then with 29...b6 30...f6 and 31...Bxh2 and 32. Qxh2 seemed to create a big advantage on the dark squares with White needing to defend his White squared pawns.

Nov-28-12
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  perfidious: < keypusher: Black has a monster pair of knights in this game. Has it been annotated anywhere? >

Yes, in Vasiliev's work on Petrosian from the mid 1970s.

Sep-09-14  42eyes: After reading about Botvinnik's & Petrosian's playing styles this is exactly what I expected. Many pieces on the board, endless positioning, some moves unfathomable (at least for me), then an sudden avalanche to a decisive end.
Sep-09-14
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  Petrosianic: <Yes, in Vasiliev's work on Petrosian from the mid 1970s.>

Easily the best book on Petrosian out there, but hard to find now. I've got an e-copy of it, though, as well as an original.

Sep-10-14
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  Benzol: This game is also annotated in Peter Clarke's book on Petrosian IIRC.
Sep-10-14  Everett: Also in Crouch's "How to Defend in Cbess."
Or something like that.
Oct-17-14  mrandersson: How many knight moves does tigan make here i mean talk about a dancing knight. Its such a wait and see type game and looking over it it does have a "my system" feel over it the like 47 Nd6 blockade theme. Over all a really nice game and white had none if any counter play at all.
Aug-08-15
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  thegoodanarchist: Even back in the 1960s the chess greats were playing important games without castling.

Why did all my childhood chess books tell me how important it was to castle?

Maybe that is the reason I never became world champion...

Feb-17-16  The17thPawn: Like watching a Cobra transfix it's prey was this delicate dance by Petrosian. I will probably never fully appreciate the depth of his play even though it contained the occasional error.
Oct-01-17  jinkinson: What's going on here? This page (at least on my computer) only includes the first three moves of the game and then abruptly ends with 0-1. Where's almost the entire game?
Oct-01-17
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  MissScarlett: Think I see the problem. The PGN has <4. cd5 ed5> which is corrupting the new Olga viewer; it seems to be OK with the others. <4. cxd5 exd5> would solve the problem. Take it up here: Olga Viewer chessforum
Oct-01-17  Howard: Huh?!?
I've looked up this game before, except it's had ALL the moves. What gives, now ? And what's this Olga business?
Oct-01-17
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  MissScarlett: Olga is now the default viewer. She's taking over.
Feb-26-18  tgyuid: Acknowledged; three-times
Feb-26-18  Marmot PFL: From notes by Clarke

42 Ne3? "Botvinnik later revealed that he intended 42 Rd1 but picked up the knight instead." Rybka however thinks the knight move is best.

44 Rf1? "For Botvinnik to produce such shallow chess so soon after the resumption is incredible. He had to fight for the weakened e5 square with 44 Nc4!" Rybka doesn't care for either move and recommends 44 Ne1 with Nd3 to follow with a very small edge to white.

Author and computer both criticize 45 Ke1. Author likes 45 Nc4 but after 45...Nxc4 46 bc4 Nc8 followed by Nd6 and Rd7-e7 computer thinks white is hurting.

Mar-03-20  King.Arthur.Brazil: Imagine MMB situation, in White, after move 47...♘d6: a bad ♗, a blocked position, his centered ♔ didn't go anywhere, no way to open up the position or threat. Completely paralyzed. Then the lonely reasobable move 48.♘f5 ♗xf5 49.exf5 (Maybe 49...gxf5, keeping e4 bloked, was preferable). Then 49...c4! Psicologically, he felt bad because he needs to win, but instead, the game after 57...♘xb5 was over. Great game of TVP.
Oct-10-21
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  kingscrusher: You can feel the iron in Tigran's positions during this game :)
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