| Jul-30-03 | | Calli: ChessGames. This game and Euwe vs Capablanca, 1931 are duplicates. One of them can be deleted. |
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| Jul-30-03 | | refutor: question..what's the policy on this? will the game get erased quicker if i post my duplicates this way instead of going through and doing it the "suggest your correction" way...cause there's at least 200 smyslov games i want to clear up ;) |
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| Jul-30-03 | | Calli: <refutor> With that many, you may want to contact them to work out some kind of batch update. I was going through the Capa-Euwe match and noticed 13 entries for a 10 game match. It was relatively easy to find the extra three games, two with incorrect scores. |
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Jul-30-03
 | | chessgames.com: refutor: The policy, technically, is that you should never ever post corrections in the kibitzer's corner, and always use the 'suggest your correction' link. Unfortunately, the reality of the situation is that we're so far behind monitoring the "suggest your correction" bin that I'm not sure if we'll ever get caught up. And so many users have discovered that for immediate gratification you can kibitz about errors. We are planning to change the way to process corrections, by taking exuberant, enthusiastic users like yourself and making them mini-administrators. These mini-admins won't actually be able to delete games, but they will have a way to flag a game for later deletion. When it comes time to solicit volunteers for this thankless job, I'll send you an email. ;-) Also, we are improving the technology we have to detect duplicate games. Hopefully a large number of dupes can be removed automatically in this fashion. |
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Jul-30-03
| | chessgames.com: By the way, this game has 20. Rae1 and the game Calli linked to has 20. Rfe1, so it's still up for debate which one to delete. |
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| Jul-30-03 | | Calli: Rae1 or Rfe1? Good point! I'll try to find out. Thanks for deleting the others. Was I instantly gratified? Well, yes, as a matter of fact <grin> |
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| Jul-31-03 | | Calli: IMHO, 20.Rfe1 is correct. My source is the CD "The Chess Machine: Jose Raul Capablanca". ChessBase also agrees with Rfe1. The CD, I believe, uses the book "The Games of José Raul Capablanca" by Caparros as its main source and then adds the games found since the publication of the book (1991 Spanish & 1994 English). At any rate, the CD has only two errors so far. One was a duplicate game and the other an incorrect player name. I have one other book which has this game, but can't find it at the moment :-( Probably turn up in the next couple of days. |
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| Aug-01-03 | | Calli: I have changed my mind! Found my Chess Stars book. This is a compilation out of St. Petersburg in Russia. It gives Rae1. ChessLabs also Rae1. Finally actually looking at the position (duh!), Rae1 is the logical move. There is no reason not to bring another piece into play. This is really the strongest arguement. |
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| Aug-07-03 | | Calli: Chessgames: I have found a Dutch source for this game. It is indeed 20.Rae1. You can find a PGN with all of EUWE's matches on this page: http://web.inter.nl.net/hcc/rekius/...
They also annotated. Its possible that Euwe agreed to a draw prematurely in this game! |
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| Aug-28-04 | | Whitehat1963: "Fischer Variation"! That's funny, I didn't think Capablanca ever analysed any of Fischer's games. |
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| Apr-18-05 | | RookFile: Yeah, I know, another example is
Reshevsky vs. Alekhine. Years
later, Reshevsky -- Fischer would
repeat, to a point, the Reshevsky
vs. Alekhine game.
So, it's funny that this is Fischer's
variation, but 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6
3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6
is the Najdorf variation -- even
though the whole world knows Fischer
was the greatest expert in the world
on this since 1958! |
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| Jun-26-09 | | AnalyzeThis: Euwe's 21. Bxg7! is very sharp here, and prevents him from drifting into an inferior position. I guess if 23....Nh6, Euwe has 24. Qf6, and there is nowhere for the knight to go. |
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| Jul-20-14 | | haaNi: Not a bad game at all but only less than 30 movez. |
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| Jul-20-14 | | JimNorCal: White looks stronger to my eyes. I'd play g4 and advance the king.
Against Capa, of course, accepting the draw is understandable... |
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Dec-14-19
 | | woldsmandriffield: Euwe gained the upper hand after Capablanca played the questionable 10..c6 (thematic to exchange on d5 first, then go ..c6) and 11..Qxe6 (11..fxe6 is more natural). Euwe struck out with 16 f4 (rather than building with 16 Rad1) and was rewarded when Capablanca grabbed a risky pawn with 18..Bxe4? (better 18..f5). 
click for larger viewEuwe then missed 19 h3! when Capablanca would be obliged to give up a piece (19..Nf6 20 f5 Bf5 21 Qg5 Bg6 22 Rae1 Qd7 23 Rxf6 gxf6 24 Qh6 is overwhelming). Black doesn't look to have anything like enough compensation after 19 h3! d5 20 hxg4 dxc4 21 Qf2 Bd3 22 Rfe1 Qxg4 23 Re3 Euwe played the drawing sacrifice 21 Bxg7 when Capblanca's 23..f5 was a surprising decision (23..d5 and Black is OK). Failing to play the resulting R&P ending out makes sense only if Euwe was short of time. Overall, Euwe had very good chances to win the 2nd match game and move ahead 1-0. |
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