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Robert James Fischer vs Olicio Gadia
Mar del Plata (1960), Mar del Plata ARG, rd 3, Mar-31
Sicilian Defense: Fischer-Sozin Attack. Flank Variation (B87)  ·  1-0

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Jan-27-06
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  Underworld: 9.f4 Nxe4 10.f5 would be my choosing.
Apr-13-07
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  vonKrolock: <21.♖a1> Bronstein: "How come You thought of that move?" Fischer: "Tal moves his Rooks back and forth, why can't I do the same?"

Mar-12-11
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  plang: Decptively simple - I guess 12..Be7 ia an inaccuracy. Fischer makes these good knight versus bishop games look easy. 21 Ra1 is a nice move.

My books on this line all automatically recommend 7 Bb3 but 7..Nxe4 is not a threat yet and a creative White player can avoid theory by delaying Bb3 (as far as I can tell).

Feb-28-12
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  wordfunph: Fischer - Gadia

after 20...Be7


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"This is the kind of position I get in my dreams."

- Bobby Fischer

Aug-07-12  dchrist: Fischer's 9. f4?! scores very poorly in the game explorer. Fischer's 18. Rad1 / 21. R(d)a1 is also questionable (18. Nd5! better). Did Fischer just have this habit of looking for unusual variations (often later named for Fischer) when other moves would have been more sound?
Aug-07-12
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  diceman: <dchrist: Fischer's 9. f4?! scores very poorly in the game explorer. Fischer's 18. Rad1 / 21. R(d)a1 is also questionable (18. Nd5! better).>

Fischer also played the Kings Gambit, which drops a pawn.

Amazing you can go 6-0 in Candidates Matches and 11-0 in US Championships with all these subpar moves.

Aug-07-12  Cemoblanca: It came a rook out of the blue! ;0)
Aug-07-12  Cemoblanca: I would call this 1 "Operation Gadia"... ;0)
Apr-14-13  ReggaeNight: Why doesn't white take with the queen at move 17?
Apr-14-13
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  Benzol: <ReggaeNight> <Why doesn't white take with the queen at move 17?>

<ReggaeNight> I'm sorry but I don't understand. White's Queen can only take the b-pawn but would in turn be taken by Black's a-pawn. I don't think you mean that do you?

Apr-14-13  ReggaeNight: Sorry I meant why doesn't BLACK recapture with the queen at move 17 insetad of the rook? Wouldn't it kind of prevent the white knight of going to D5 because then white looses a pawn?! TY FOR ANSWERING BTW.
Apr-14-13  Strongest Force: Bobby must have thought it was x-mas morning. It's always nice to get free stuff.
Apr-14-13
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  Benzol: I don't think the eventual placement of the Knight at d5 can be prevented. A possible continuation after 17...Qxc6 could be 18.Rf2 defending the second rank and still with the Knight threat. Black is unfortunate in that he has been left with a bad bishop.
Apr-03-16
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  tpstar: An interesting discussion about this game and opening, focusing on the battle for d5:

https://youtu.be/7xLx_TfD6Uc?list=P...

Apr-04-16  Al2009: Why 21. Ra1?!

21. f6! was immediately winning!

A) 21...gxf6
B) 21...Bxf6

A) 22. Qg3+ Kh8 23. Rf5! and wins
B) 22. Nxf6+ gxf6 23. Qg3+ Kh8 24. Rf5! Qg8 25. Qh4 d5 (what else?) 26. Rd3! Rc4 (or dxe4) 27. Rg3! and wins

Probably Fischer was the best chessplayer in 1970-72, but surely he has never been the best in tactics, his games (as this one) are evidencing that he missed many tactical chances.

Apr-07-16
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  tpstar: After 21. f6 Black could try 21 ... Bf8 allowing 22. fxg7 Bxg7. White is still better, yet Black might organize counterplay with ... Kh8 & ... Qd7 & ... Rg8. Although 22. Qg3 g6 23. Qh4 looks fearsome, planning a Rook lift toward the h file.
Apr-08-16  Al2009: You're wrong! What "counterplay"?

After 21. f6! and your suggestion 21...Bf8 22. Qg3 g6 (only this, otherwise 23. Ne7+) 23.Qh4! followed by 24.Rd3! (and Rg3 or Rh3) and Black is hopelessly lost!

Why are you trying to defend Fischer's mistakes?
Even Fischer himself was honest, and admitted his mistakes, and tactical lapses.

For instance 16. Nxe7? (instead of 16. Qh6!) in Fischer - Sofrevsky 1967 Fischer vs J Sofrevski, 1967

or 34. Be5?, instead of 34. Rxf5! gxf5 35. Rg7 Qf8 36. Qxe6!! Rxe6 37. f7!, in Fischer - Andersson 1970 Fischer vs Ulf Andersson, 1970

So 21. Ra1?! is not the best move, sorry for Fischer...

Jun-24-16  RookFile: In the line 21. f6 Bxf6 22. Nxf6+ gxf6 23. Qg3+ Kh8 24. Rf5, black obtains counterplay with 24....b4.


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Jul-24-16  Al2009: <RookFile>

Yes, you're right.

But you forgot to note that White could improve his 24th move by 24. Qh4! (instead of 24.Rf5) and then Black is hopeless and in a zungzwang situation.

What can Black play?

24...b4 simply 25. cxb4

24...Qe7 25. Rf3! Rg8 (necessary to avoid 26.Rh3) 26. Qxf6+ Qxf6 27. Rxf6 with an easily won endagame for White. For instance 27...Rg6 28. Rxf7 Rg4 29. Rdf1!

Dec-19-16  clement41: In the following Fischer-Petrosian game (Fischer vs Petrosian, 1971), Fischer played 22 Nxd7!? and many masters criticized this unintuitive positional exchange at first. 23 Nxe7 vs Gadia here is somehow its tactical counterpart; obviously white would never part with this awesome knight were it not for the tactics that follow
Dec-19-16
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  ChessHigherCat: <vonKrolock: <21.♖a1> Bronstein: "How come You thought of that move?" Fischer: "Tal moves his Rooks back and forth, why can't I do the same?"> That's interesting but I think Fischer's real motive was probably to trick black into moving his rook to a8 or b8 (monkey see, monkey do) so he could play his winning combination.
Dec-20-16
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  vonKrolock: <ChessHigherCat> You're right - there are other motivations too. I believe that Fischer, Bronstein and the guy who told the story were not excluding them ......
Dec-20-16  RookFile: In the line 21. f6 Bxf6 22. Nxf6+ gxf6 23. Qg3+ Kh8 24. Qh4, black plays 24...f5


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Black is doing pretty well for a dead guy. Just a small edge to white.

Feb-11-17  eyalbd: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0s...
Mar-09-17
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  whiteshark: Loose pieces drop off
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