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| Feb-28-12 | | wordfunph: Fischer - Gadia
after 20...Be7
click for larger view"This is the kind of position I get in my dreams."
- Bobby Fischer |
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| Aug-07-12 | | dchrist: Fischer's 9. f4?! scores very poorly in the game explorer. Fischer's 18. Rad1 / 21. R(d)a1 is also questionable (18. Nd5! better). Did Fischer just have this habit of looking for unusual variations (often later named for Fischer) when other moves would have been more sound? |
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Aug-07-12
 | | diceman: <dchrist: Fischer's 9. f4?! scores very poorly in the game explorer. Fischer's 18. Rad1 / 21. R(d)a1 is also questionable (18. Nd5! better).> Fischer also played the Kings Gambit, which drops a pawn. Amazing you can go 6-0 in Candidates Matches and 11-0 in US Championships
with all these subpar moves. |
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| Aug-07-12 | | Cemoblanca: It came a rook out of the blue! ;0) |
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| Aug-07-12 | | Cemoblanca: I would call this 1 "Operation Gadia"... ;0) |
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| Apr-14-13 | | ReggaeNight: Why doesn't white take with the queen at move 17? |
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Apr-14-13
 | | Benzol: <ReggaeNight> <Why doesn't white take with the queen at move 17?> <ReggaeNight> I'm sorry but I don't understand. White's Queen can only take the b-pawn but would in turn be taken by Black's a-pawn. I don't think you mean that do you? |
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| Apr-14-13 | | ReggaeNight: Sorry I meant why doesn't BLACK recapture with the queen at move 17 insetad of the rook? Wouldn't it kind of prevent the white knight of going to D5 because then white looses a pawn?! TY FOR ANSWERING BTW. |
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| Apr-14-13 | | Strongest Force: Bobby must have thought it was x-mas morning. It's always nice to get free stuff. |
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Apr-14-13
| | Benzol: I don't think the eventual placement of the Knight at d5 can be prevented. A possible continuation after 17...Qxc6 could be 18.Rf2 defending the second rank and still with the Knight threat. Black is unfortunate in that he has been left with a bad bishop. |
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Apr-03-16
 | | tpstar: An interesting discussion about this game and opening, focusing on the battle for d5: https://youtu.be/7xLx_TfD6Uc?list=P... |
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| Apr-04-16 | | Al2009: Why 21. Ra1?!
21. f6! was immediately winning!
A) 21...gxf6
B) 21...Bxf6
A) 22. Qg3+ Kh8 23. Rf5! and wins
B) 22. Nxf6+ gxf6 23. Qg3+ Kh8 24. Rf5! Qg8 25. Qh4 d5 (what else?) 26. Rd3! Rc4 (or dxe4) 27. Rg3! and wins Probably Fischer was the best chessplayer in 1970-72, but surely he has never been the best in tactics, his games (as this one) are evidencing that he missed many tactical chances. |
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Apr-07-16
| | tpstar: After 21. f6 Black could try 21 ... Bf8 allowing 22. fxg7 Bxg7. White is still better, yet Black might organize counterplay with ... Kh8 & ... Qd7 & ... Rg8. Although 22. Qg3 g6 23. Qh4 looks fearsome, planning a Rook lift toward the h file. |
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| Apr-08-16 | | Al2009: You're wrong! What "counterplay"?
After 21. f6! and your suggestion 21...Bf8 22. Qg3 g6 (only this, otherwise 23. Ne7+) 23.Qh4! followed by 24.Rd3! (and Rg3 or Rh3) and Black is hopelessly lost! Why are you trying to defend Fischer's mistakes?
Even Fischer himself was honest, and admitted his mistakes, and tactical lapses. For instance 16. Nxe7? (instead of 16. Qh6!) in Fischer - Sofrevsky 1967 Fischer vs J Sofrevski, 1967 or 34. Be5?, instead of 34. Rxf5! gxf5 35. Rg7 Qf8 36. Qxe6!! Rxe6 37. f7!, in Fischer - Andersson 1970 Fischer vs Ulf Andersson, 1970 So 21. Ra1?! is not the best move, sorry for Fischer... |
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| Jun-24-16 | | RookFile: In the line 21. f6 Bxf6 22. Nxf6+ gxf6 23. Qg3+ Kh8 24. Rf5, black obtains counterplay with 24....b4.
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| Jul-24-16 | | Al2009: <RookFile>
Yes, you're right.
But you forgot to note that White could improve his 24th move by 24. Qh4! (instead of 24.Rf5) and then Black is hopeless and in a zungzwang situation. What can Black play?
24...b4 simply 25. cxb4
24...Qe7 25. Rf3! Rg8 (necessary to avoid 26.Rh3) 26. Qxf6+ Qxf6 27. Rxf6 with an easily won endagame for White.
For instance 27...Rg6 28. Rxf7 Rg4 29. Rdf1!  |
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| Dec-19-16 | | clement41: In the following Fischer-Petrosian game (Fischer vs Petrosian, 1971), Fischer played 22 Nxd7!? and many masters criticized this unintuitive positional exchange at first.
23 Nxe7 vs Gadia here is somehow its tactical counterpart; obviously white would never part with this awesome knight were it not for the tactics that follow |
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Dec-19-16
 | | ChessHigherCat: <vonKrolock: <21.♖a1> Bronstein: "How come You thought of that move?" Fischer: "Tal moves his Rooks back and forth, why can't I do the same?">
That's interesting but I think Fischer's real motive was probably to trick black into moving his rook to a8 or b8 (monkey see, monkey do) so he could play his winning combination. |
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| Dec-20-16 | | vonKrolock: <ChessHigherCat> You're right - there are other motivations too. I believe that Fischer, Bronstein and the guy who told the story were not excluding them ...... |
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| Dec-20-16 | | RookFile: In the line 21. f6 Bxf6 22. Nxf6+ gxf6 23. Qg3+ Kh8 24. Qh4, black plays 24...f5
click for larger viewBlack is doing pretty well for a dead guy. Just a small edge to white. |
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| Feb-11-17 | | eyalbd: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0s... |
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| Mar-09-17 | | whiteshark: Loose pieces drop off |
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Oct-26-20
 | | kingscrusher: Fischer d5 square outpost Strategic crush example - in Stean's Simple chess |
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| Jan-08-21 | | Torodeboro: An outpost on d5
By pushing f5 white forces black to play e5. With that an outpost on d5 is created. To make optimal use of this Fischer firstly trades his darksquared bishop for the black knight on f6, secondly trading the light squared bishop pair via d5. After this a classics example of good knight versus bad bishop has arisen.
This all was possible because black developed his knight to c6 instead of d7 which made the f5 pawn push possible for white without losing any tempo and also not giving black the option to jump to the wonderful c5 square and attacking both the pawn on e4 as the bishop on b3. The idea with f5 and with either totally opening the position of the black king by capuring on e6 or creating an outpost on d5 is seems pretty thematic, although I never realised it to be a theme. At the end when the centre is fully stable. White simply seeks to activate his rooks by opening the a-file with Ra1 and a4. Besides occuyping the d5 square the possibility that is always in the air of taking on e7 and maybe breaching through with caputering on d6 is also a nice feature. White dominated and a perfect game for students! :) |
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| Dec-31-22 | | 51893: <dchrist> Wrong 9. f4—inaccuracy
18. Rad1—strongest move
21. Ra1—strongest move
Qd4 refutes 18. Nd5 |
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