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Bobby Fischer vs Raymond Weinstein
US Championship (1963/64), New York, NY USA, rd 8, Dec-28
Spanish Game: Closed Variations. Closed Defense (C96)  ·  1-0

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Feb-22-05  woodenbishop: Very nice tactical chess displayed by Fischer.
Feb-26-05  davewv: Just read an interesting move by move analysis of this game in "Winning Chess Openings" by Bill Robertie. Cardoza Publishing.
Nov-08-07
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  kingscrusher: I have video annotated this game:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHGL...

Nov-08-12
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  Dionysius1: This is great fun. It's like Fischer is playing without an opponent. I think the closed Ruy Lopez is supposed to make that possible, but Fischer just takes so much advantage! It's not always that way though - there's an Adams - Short game 1987 which is a RL closed where Nigel seems to have control all the way.
Nov-08-12
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  Dionysius1: Adams vs Short, 1987. I enjoyed your video on the Fischer - Weinstein game, kingscrusher
May-27-13
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  PawnSac: < 35.d6! >

white intends to trap the bishop with d6-d7.

< 35. ..Qb6? >

If black is trying to pin the pawn against the queen, it doesn't work, since 36. d7 Qxf6 37. Rxe8+ Rxe8 38. dxe8=Q+ and white has the extra piece.

But 35. ..Qb6? also abandons the guard of the c4 square allowing the even stronger final blow 36.Bc4! threatening mate in 3 with either 37.Rxd8+ Rxe8 38.Qxf7+ Kh8 39.Qf6++ or
37.Bxf7+ Bxf7 38.Qxf7 Kh8 39.Qxh7++.

Slightly better than Qb6?, was 35. ..Qc6?! but after 36.Rc7 Qa4 white still gets in 37.Bc4

Jun-23-14  Ulhumbrus: 27 Qa6 pins the d6 pawn which defends the e5 pawn to the knight on f6 so that 28 Nxe5 becomes a threat
Apr-09-15  A.T PhoneHome: It's stunning at times how much Fischer finds in closed games!
Apr-09-15  JohnBoy: Can white improve w 33.Bb5 ?

If 33...Rb5 34.Ra8, or 33...Bb5 34.Qf7.

Apr-09-15  A.T PhoneHome: Black can give check with 33...Qc1+ after 33.Bb5. So 33.Bxb5 Qc1+ and if 34.Kh2 we have Black to move:


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Now Black can play ...Qf4+ and Queens are traded off. So 34...Qf4+ 35.Qxf4 exf4 and we have:


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Doesn't look as bad for Black now, does it?

Or if White plays 34.Bf1 instead of 34.Kh2, Black to move:


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Black plays 35...Qf4 like in the first diagram. Now White Queen must move and I think King can get out of that corner. Might get a bit messy though.

After 30...Qc3, Fischer's 31.Nc5 is a clever move because it forks two pieces and b4 pawn protects it from ...Qxb5. Weinstein's Knight is pinned to his Bishop but he has to play 31...Nxb5 and now Fischer gets open seventh rank after 32.bxc5 to resume his attack.

33.Bf1 was just a defensive move, in a nutshell.

Apr-09-15  DAbrahams: Dude that looks terrible for black. White swaps bishops on e8 and then plays just about anything at all (37. d6 is probably quickest but at this point who cares?).

Like, at that point you can just stipulate all of white's kingside pawns off the board and he's still winning.

Apr-09-15  A.T PhoneHome: <DAbrahams> I know it does. :P I never said I was good at chess. Anyways, JohnBoy asked about why not 33.Bb5 instead of 33.Bf1 which is what I tried to open up here. I know White is winning in the ending of this game. So, I wasn't discussing the very ending of the game but a situation some moves earlier. But I don't find it miraculous if I was dead-wrong here.

Anyways, thanks for the criticism, point well taken!

Apr-09-15  JohnBoy: <AT> - Thanks for the reply. Yeah, black can force the queens off, but into a dead lost ending. Personally, I'd prefer to be up two or three central passers with black having NO play to a quicker solution with more room to err. I am wondering if there is a more smackdown response to 33.Bb5.
Apr-09-15  A.T PhoneHome: No worries mate, I'm happy that <DAbrahams> took on the subject matter as well. Of course it's hardly a waltz for Black near the end of this game but 33.Bb5 allows that check from Queen. Maybe 33...Rxb5 isn't as bad as 33...Bxb5 simply because Bishop needs to be guarding that f7 square (King doesn't have to be the capturing piece then). Lone King just gets mated very fast after White Queen takes on f7.

Like Fischer cleared the seventh rank for his Rook and the attack in general and he probably played 33.Bf1 just so he wouldn't need to respond to Black's checks.

By the way, after forcing Queens off, what does White exactly play? Since that's the point I got all wrong.

Apr-09-15  JohnBoy: <AT> - let's try the first of your lines:

33.Bb5 Qc1+ 34.Kh2 Qf4+ 35.Qf4 ef4 36.Be8 Re8 37.f3

White is going to play c6 & d6 & c7 & d7 in pretty much that order, with black having no way to generate confusion. To see how this gets done, look at the last few moves of Akobian-Troff yesterday.

Apr-09-15  JohnBoy: Akobian vs K W Troff, 2015
Apr-09-15  A.T PhoneHome: Yeah, I see. Those central pawns kill. Thanks sir! There is a hint of irony; with me replying to your question and you ending up helping me! :P oh well, worse things have happened, haha.
Apr-09-15  JohnBoy: <AT> - It's all good. Most folks help each other here. I ain't the guy at this site to shoot you down for trying.
Apr-09-15  A.T PhoneHome: <JohnBoy> I know and I didn't expect anything else from you. Just wanted to share the irony, that's all! Thanks again.
Oct-04-15  ToTheDeath: What a very nice game from Bobby's untouchable 11/11 US Championship. I particularly like the way his pressure and infiltration on the queenside led to a breakthrough on the kingside.
Jun-03-19  Howard: In a 2008 article, Chess (based out of London) magazine states that Fischer could have won more "cleanly" with 28.Na5.
Dec-31-21  jerseybob: I think black had a playable game up till his 17th turn, and with 17..Bxb5 his position would've been fairly harmonious. Surprising that such a resourceful player as Weinstein missed that.
Dec-31-21  RookFile: Gives you perspective on Fischer's game 1 win in 1992 against Spassky. He knew all about the open a file and play on the b5 pawn almost 30 years before that game.
Jan-01-22
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  keypusher: <Howard: In a 2008 article, Chess (based out of London) magazine states that Fischer could have won more "cleanly" with 28.Na5.>

That is nothing. He could have played Bc4 on move 3 instead of move 36.

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