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Josef Friedman vs Boris Gulko
21st World Open (1993), Philadelphia, PA USA, rd 1
French Defense: Winawer. Bogoljubow Variation (C17)  ·  0-1

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Oct-23-21
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  Check It Out: Have the site engineers build in a yes/no column for pun submissions. Then <MissScarlett> will know what he/she's looked at and either accepted or rejected. Then, no one's submissions need be deleted.

And for gods sake, <MS>, get your act together!

That said, IMO the game of the day submissions (the games, not the titles, which I consider secondary) have been of higher quality lately.

Oct-23-21
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  Phony Benoni: Having gone through over 9000 of those 7000 submissions in the Pun Voting Booth, I've probably given the lowest grade (1) to at least 90% of the puns. Granted, my standards are probably too strict . I will often mark down an acceptable pun because it has no relation to the game. And I will sometimes adjust the grade for a pun based on the quality of the game.

This may not be the best system, but I think we can all agree that we can't all agree on what is. We are chess payers.

There is something I would ask. On the "Master List" of which <MissScarlett> speaks, are the grades from the Pun Voting Booth given? If they aren't available (or are not taken into account), why are we wasting our time voting?

I would like to say that the quality of both puns and games has been better over the last month. This is not just my opinion, but that of ibitzers on the GOTD pages. There are far more positive comments than negative.

Oct-23-21
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  MissScarlett: <On the "Master List" of which <MissScarlett> speaks, are the grades from the Pun Voting Booth given? If they aren't available (or are not taken into account), why are we wasting our time voting?>

They are available, but for all the attention I pay to them, they may as well not be. Given that it's rare to find a submission with more than 2-3 votes, I don't think I can be reasonably chastised for such negligence.

Oct-23-21  Z truth 000000001: <AnnieK>, <SRV>, and now <MIssy>:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t54...

Consider it necessary fodder for the artistic muses...

.

Oct-23-21
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  MissScarlett: <Given that it's rare to find a submission with more than 2-3 votes>

Having skimmed the list, this might be a shade hyperbolic. Rare would be half a dozen. A dozen or more is positively stratospheric.

Oct-23-21
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  Teyss: <MissScarlett: They are available, but for all the attention I pay to them, they may as well not be. Given that it's rare to find a submission with more than 2-3 votes, I don't think I can be reasonably chastised for such negligence.>

Two simple questions then:
1. Same as <Phony Benoni: If they (...) are not taken into account, why are we wasting our time voting?>
2. Aren't 1 + 2 to 3 (or more) opinions better than one?

Oct-24-21  Granny O Doul: <An extra note on why 16... Qd3 is a good move> The only uncertainty I'm left with is whether I feel more like Archimedes in the bathtub, or Newton after the apple.
Oct-24-21
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  HeMateMe: what was Archimedes doing in the bathtub? moving something with his lever?
Oct-25-21
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  OhioChessFan: <Teyss> I thought "The Lady in the Bath" and "Thou Shalt Welcome the Homeless" were rather good.
Oct-25-21
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  Teyss: <OhioChessFan> Thanks. To be clear I don't mind my few puns not being selected considering the number in the pipe and some users reaching their 300 limit. I do mind (a bit, nothing serious) the opacity and deletions on the individual page.
Oct-25-21  optimal play: After reading the above posts, I went into the Pun Submission Page and notice that a clever pun I submitted only just recently has disappeared!?

<MissScarlett: Until I just checked, I never realised that there was a personal pun submission list page. Is that a feature for premium members only? Is it new?>

Oh for goodness sake...

Who put you in charge of the puns?

You don't even know how it works!

<... at present I just zap a few as the mood takes me.>

You're completely out of control.

<OhioChessFan: <MissScarlett: I never realised that there was a personal pun submission list page.> And this incompetent is in charge? Unbelievable.>

My thoughts exactly.

Oct-26-21  optimal play: In hindsight, perhaps I was a little harsh on our good mate <MissScarlett>.

Keep up the good work Scazz.

Oct-26-21
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  OhioChessFan: <opt>, you're a cheap date. Run one of your puns and all is well?
Oct-26-21
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  MissScarlett: With <OCF>, I'm playing hard to get.
Oct-26-21  Z truth 000000001: <<Missy> With <OCF>, I'm playing hard to get.>

I kinda hoped the pun selection would've been done in a user-blind fashion...

* * * * *

(My old English teacher would have drilled me hard to name the verb cases in the above:

https://www.really-learn-english.co...)

Oct-26-21
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  MissScarlett: Needless to say, I operate without fear or favour. Except in my own direction, naturally. Remember, the chess world is not a democracy; it's a natural aristocracy.
Oct-26-21  optimal play: <OhioChessFan: <opt>, you're a cheap date. Run one of your puns and all is well?>

It doesn't take much to win me over.

Oct-26-21  Z truth 000000001: Just think the mileage you could get giving him a box of chocolates.
Oct-27-21
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  OhioChessFan: Me neither, but I never get much.
Oct-27-21
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  HeMateMe: the quality of the game/players should be at least as important as the pun itself. I won't waste ten minutes watching two 1900 players blunder away at each other when I can sample the latest GM tournament.
Nov-19-23
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  kbob: <HeMateMe: what was Archimedes doing in the bathtub? moving something with his lever?> It is a little alarming to me that rather erudite comments of mine and others on Archimedes stemming from this post were taken down, possibly as being deemed pornographic by some computer algorithm. I wonder how far off is the day when we are accused, tried, and executed without any process for human intervention.
Nov-19-23  stone free or die: <kbob> I suspect a smelly furry in need of a bath.
Nov-19-23
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  perfidious: <kbob.... It is a little alarming to me that rather erudite comments of mine and others on Archimedes stemming from this post were taken down, possibly as being deemed pornographic by some computer algorithm. I wonder how far off is the day when we are accused, tried, and executed without any process for human intervention.>

On another site, I proposed to post while using the word 'twaddle'. The site ran up the flag until I explained what should have been fairly obvious: the word has nothing to do with a certain less endearing term, which should have been fairly clear, but apparently was not.

<zed: I suspect a smelly furry in need of a bath.>

Highly possible; he has vented much choler in recent months over having posts 'targeted' for deletion. all while blithely posting off-topic and political dross on game pages. That would be his way of getting his own back.

To me, <HMM>'s cited comment was rather droll, ackshly. If I had powers of deletion, I would have let it slide; there is worse stuff about than that.

Nov-19-23  stone free or die: <perf> I think I missed <HMM>'s addition. Oh well, like a musical note, once played it disappears into the night, gone forever.
Nov-22-23
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  fredthebear: Same old worn-out story. These partners in crime trolling, cyberbullying and lying on the game pages.
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