Nov-17-04 | | Saruman: lol a 9-move loss in the QGA. Gunsberg has beaten Steinitz amongst others, this is just amazing. |
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May-17-09 | | whiteshark: great minds have gluck |
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Dec-21-17
 | | FSR: Wow. Black's opening play, combining 3...c5 with 4...Bg4, was dubious. After 7.Ne5, 7...Nf6 was obligatory. |
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Nov-12-20
 | | offramp: <FSR: Wow. Black's opening play, combining 3...c5 with 4...Bg4, was dubious. After 7.Ne5, 7...Nf6 was obligatory.> click for larger view
7...a6 was also possible.
8. Nxg4 b5!= |
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Nov-10-23
 | | FSR: At least Gunsie lasted a couple of moves longer than Garry did in Mamedyarov vs Kasparov, 2021. |
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Nov-10-23
 | | keypusher: <7...a6 was also possible.
8. Nxg4 b5!=>
I wouldn't say = after 9.Nxg4 b5 10.Bxb5. Of course nothing was equal at this point, Black screwed up with 4....Bg4 (as FSR already noted). |
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Nov-10-23
 | | perfidious: If Black wanted to play 4....Bg4, he was better off going in for the normal 3....Nf6, which enjoyed some popularity in the late 1970s. |
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Nov-11-23
 | | FSR: <perfidious> Gunsberg may have been unfamiliar with Quinteros vs Miles, 1977. |
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Nov-11-23
 | | perfidious: <FSR>, could well be; as a player of ~1750, I was fortunate to have read Cafferty's work on Tal and avoided going in for that pawn snatch in two games from 1978. The great man himself had no such inhibitions: Tal vs V Shiyanovsky, 1962, which was played some rounds after G Khodos vs Tal, 1962, and a far from common line in Tal's praxis with either colour. |
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Nov-11-23
 | | FSR: <perfidious> Interesting. I had been under the misimpression that Miles pioneered the 3...Nf6 4.e3 Bg4 line. Not so. The first nine moves of Tal-Shiyanovsky were identical to Quinteros-Miles, and preceded the latter game by 15 years. Further exploration shows that Theo van Scheltinga first played the b-pawn sacrifice, and that in the 1960s it was played by not only Tal, but also the likes of Smyslov, Bronstein, Polugaevsky, Hort, Gheorghiu, and Gaprindashvili. https://www.chessgames.com/perl/che... Opening Explorer shows that it scored very well, although that could be in part because such high-level players were playing it. (Of course, many White players abjured the Qd1-b3xb7 pawn grab, including Atkins. H E Atkins vs F Brown, 1906.) Miles for whatever reason seems to have been one of the first to play the QGA with 4...Bg4 on a regular basis rather than occasionally. Repertoire Explorer: Tony Miles (black). |
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Nov-11-23
 | | perfidious: <FSR>, for safer handling of the line by White, see Balashov vs Miles, 1977. At the moment I do not have my copy of the 1978 BCM, so cannot refer to Hartston's annotations beyond the kibitz. Nice game by Miles. |
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