Anatoly Karpov vs John van der Wiel (1980) Karpov Bombing

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Anatoly Karpov vs John van der Wiel
"Karpov Bombing" (game of the day Jun-17-2023)
Amsterdam IBM (1980), Amsterdam NED, rd 8, Jul-05
Sicilian Defense: Richter-Rauzer. Neo-Modern Variation Early deviations (B62) · 1-0

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Oct-10-02		skakmiv: Great game.

Oct-10-02		Honza Cervenka: Karpov is considered a positional player but he can play also pretty sharp and wild games. Quod erat demonstrandum...;-)

Oct-10-02		drukenknight: 14 gxh5 would produce a strong attack. Does anybody see the correct continuation for blacks 18th? It's a little tricky but you only have to see about 4 moves.

Oct-12-02		skakmiv: no, I can't see the correct move for blacks 18th.

Oct-12-02		drukenknight: You should play out the moves one by one by yourself, well okay both sides start out fine and white of course needs to do something or he will run out of space, but I guess he doesn't care so he retreats B on whites 9th. This means white has run out of gas. Now it is blacks turn. He is playing a white game. That is, it is just like he has white pieces and he has first move. See that bishop sitting on e3 it moved twice. Okay imagine same B for black sittting on e6 but only used one move. So you know that black has exact same position that a white player could have had w/ basic good moves. So now black has same problem as white. Keep moving and drop material or maybe you run out of space. On 18th move white grabs material (-2 pts, b pawn is Isolated so it's a 0) What should black do? He could grab material and get back to a balance, are there two pts he can grab? I dunno I havent looked. Or he can attack. Being down in material often means good time to attack. Attack means bringing any pieces that can check the closer to making that check. Just start looking for pieces that can make checks on K and bring them closer. Start w/ say the Q she is already on same file as K. So she is already attacking huh? What about other pieces/pawns can we bring them closer to K. It's not too deep. Try it for a while. What do you see?

Oct-12-02		skakmiv: e5, Nxe3, b3 Ba4 and Ra8. These moves does'nt work. I can't find anything else.

Oct-12-02		drukenknight: which of the above moves bring pieces closer to putting the K in check? Then you elimate ones that dont. Ra8 maybe could he come down a file and give check on bank rank? Maybe...What about Ba4 who is hitting c2 right now? is there a check on c2?

Oct-21-03		fred lennox: Interesting king protection for white.

Oct-21-03		drukenknight: another one of these desperado pawn games in the sicilian that begin w/ b4. We were looking that possibility in one of Shahades games a few days ago. THen there is that Tal/Larsen 1965 game. etc. Over in the cafe, I had posted a game involving a double piece sack in that line several weeks ago, did you see that one Fred?

Oct-27-03		fred lennox: <Drukenknight> I'm afraid I didn't. I hardly been on this site lately.

Oct-27-03		drukenknight: yeah, I noticed, too busy?

Nov-02-03		fred lennox: traveling

Jul-25-15		dfcx: The first few moves are obvious. White has to save the pawn, thus 27.Rxe6 A.27...fxe6 28.Qxe6 followed by 29.Qf7+ Kd7 30.e8=Q# B.27...Qxa3 28.Rxf7! Kxf7? 29.e8=Q+ Rbxe8 30.g6+ Kg8 (Kf8 31.Qf3+) 31.Rxe8+ Bf8 32.Qe6+ and mates soon. I do not see any other defense to 27.Rxe6.

Jul-25-15		al wazir: My idea (for what it's worth) was 27. Qa7, defending both the ♗ on a6 and the ♙ on e7 and attacking the black ♖ on b8. If -- a big if -- black now plays 27...Rb6, a plausible move but by no means forced, then after 28. Qa8+ Kxe7 29. Qa7+ Kd8/Ke8/Kf8 30. Rxe6 fxe6 31. Rf7, black is busted. But what if black plays 27...Qb6 instead? Then things don't looks so good for white.

Jul-25-15		mel gibson: I didn't see it but DR4 64 bit agrees with the above solution however it doesn't follow the same line of attack after 27. Rxe6 as the text.

Jul-25-15		gofer: <27 Rxe6 ...> This move has tow very important aspects; a) defending Pe7 b) removing the defender of Pf7 (or the f7 square which ever you prefer) 27 ... fxe6 28 Qxe6 mating Black has to find a defence... <27 ... Qxa6> <28 Rxf7! ...> Now black is in trouble the king cannot take Rf7... 28 ... Kxf7 29 e8=Q+ ... 29 ... Rbxe8 28 g6+ Kg8 29 Rxe8+ Bf8 30 Qe6+ Kg7 31 Qf7+ Kh6 32 Rxf8 29 ... Rhxe8 28 g6+ Kg8 (Kf8 Qf2+/Qf3+/Qf4+ Kg8 Qf7+ Kh8 Rxe8+ mating) 29 Rxe8+ Bf8 (Rxe8 Qxe8+ Bf8 Qf7+ mating) 30 Qe6+ Kh8 31 Qf6+ Kg8 32 Qf7+ Kh8 32 Qh7# So what can black do??? ~~~ Yeah! A nice clean Saturday puzzle solved!

Jul-25-15		sushijunkie: Boa Constrictor. BRUTAL.

Jul-25-15		patzer2: Here's my look at the game and today's Saturday puzzle (27. ?) with the chessgames.com Opening Explorer (OE) and Deep Fritz 14 x 64: <1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 d6 6. Bg5 e6 7. Qd2 a6 8. O-O-O h6> This is the second most popular option in the OE. The most popular move is 8...Be7 as in Short vs Kasparov, 2015. <9. Be3 Bd7> The popular move is 9...Be7 as in Junior vs Loop, 2007. <10. f3 Qc7> The popular move is 10...b5 as in S Zhigalko vs U Eliseev, 2013. <11. g4 Ne5 12. h4 b5 13. Rg1 h5?!> This is the only move in the OE with 13...h5? And rightly so as it allows White to take the initiative with advantage after 13..h5? 14. g4 to . Instead, Black can hold with 13...b4 as in Lahno vs D Kononenko, 2003. <14. g5!> With this strong move, White begins to take control of the game. Less strong is <drunkenknight>'s 2002 suggestion 14. gxh4 when Fritz indicates play might continue 14...Nxh5 15. f4 b4 16. Ncb5! axb5 17. fxe4 Rxa2 18. Kb1 Ra8 =. <14...Ng8 15. Be2 Rb8 16. f4 b4 17. Nb1 Ng4 18. Bxa6 g6 19. Rgf1 Nxe3?> This allows White a strong advantage. Instead, Fritz indicates Black can hold with 19...Ne7 when play might continue 20. Bd3 Nxe3 21. Qxe3 Qb6 22. Qf2 Bg7 23. Nb3 Qc7 = (+0.21 @ 21 depth, Deep Fritz 14). <20. Qxe3 Ne7 21. f5!> This pawn push gives White a strong attack. <21...gxf5 22. exf5 e5> Not 22... exf5? when play might continue 23. Nxf5 Rb6 24. Be2 d5 25. Nxe7 Bxe7 26. Rxd5 Rd6 27. Re5 Re6 28. Rxe6 Bxe6 29. Bb5+ Bd7 30. Qd4 Rf8 31. Qd5 Bxb5 32. Qxb5+ Qd7 33. Qb8+ Qd8 34. Qb7 Qd7 35. Qa8+ Qd8 36. Qe4 Qd6 37. Rd1 f5 38. Qf3 Qe6 39. Qxh5+ Rf7 40. Nd2 (+6.69 @ 21 depth, Deep Fritz 14 x 64). <23. f6> Here Fritz prefers the winning alternative 23. Nd2! when play might continue 23... Rb6 24. Bc4 d5 25. Bb3 exd4 26. Qxd4 Rh7 27. f6 Ng6 28. Qxd5 (+3.57 @ 20 depth, Deep Fritz 14). <23... exd4 24. Rxd4 Be6 25. fxe7 Bg7 26. Re4 Qa5 27. Rxe6!> This solves today's Saturday puzzle. I found it but my follow up was not as strong as the game continuation. <27...Qxa6 28. Rxf7 > (+11.46 @ 21 depth, Deep Fritz 14). This is the strongest follow up, but white also wins with 14. Qf4, 14. Qf3 or 14. Qf2. My follow up solution was 28. Qf4 which wins after 28...Qxf1+ 29. Qxf1 fxe6 30. Qa6 Kf7 31. Qxd6 Rhe8 32. Nd2 Rb7 33. g6+ Kg8 34. Ne4 Rbxe7 35. Qxb4 (+5.07 @ 20 depth, Deep Fritz 14). <28... Kxf7 29. e8=Q+ Rbxe8 30. g6+ Kg8 31. Rxe8+ Bf8 32. Qe6+ 1-0> Black resigns as it's mate after 32...Kg7 33. Qf7+ Kh6 34. Re6 Qf1+ 35. Qxf1 Be7 36. g7+ Kxg7 37. Rxe7+ Kg6 38. Qf7+ Kh6 39. Qg7#.

Jul-25-15		morfishine: Great finish by Karpov. I was thinking this was that great game vs Topalov Karpov vs Topalov, 1994 But then realized this was a different game Here, I had <27.Rxe6> followed by 27...Qxa6 and now <28.Rxf7> which is pretty much the highlight of the combination; continuing 28...Kxf7 But now I played 29.g6+ Ke8 30.Qf3 click for larger view Which felt strong since 31.Qf7+ seems hard to meet *****

Jul-25-15		wooden nickel: This is a match between two great players. There are many moves to try today all over the board. <al wazir: My idea (for what it's worth) was 27. Qa7 ...> Well, that was sure worth a try. Also 27.Qf2 (or Qf3?!) seems to be a strong move! If 27... Qxa6 28.Rxe6 Qxf1+ 29.Qxf1 fxe6 click for larger view Of course the played 27.Rxe6! is the real winner, but only if one spots the following 30.g6+! That little bastard (pardon my Bavarian!) ruins Black.

Jul-25-15		alshatranji: What about 28.Qf3? White threatens Qxf7#, and there doesn't seem to be a good defense.

Jul-25-15		alshatranji: Wooden nickel had a similar idea, but I think the queen move is stronger after Rxf6.

Jul-25-15		patzer2: <alshatranji: What about 28.Qf3?> White wins, though it's not as strong as the game continuation. White wins after 28. Qf3 Qxf1+ 29. Qxf1 fxe6 30. Qa6 Kf7 31. Qxd6 Rhe8 32. Nd2 Rb7 33. g6+ Kg8 34. Ne4 Rbxe7 35. Qxb4 (+5.07 @ 20 depth, Deep Fritz 14).

Jul-25-15		kevin86: The sacrifice partie turns into a brutal finish.The king's poor defender are pinned and cornered.

Jul-25-15		patzer2: If 29...Rhxe8 (diagram below), click for larger view it's mate-in-six with 30. g6+! Kf8 31. Qf2+ Kg8 32. Rxe8+ (or 32. Qf7+ Kh8 33. Rxe8+ Rxe8 34. Qxe8+ Bf8 35. Qxf8#) 32... Rxe8 33. Qf7+ Kh8 34. Qxe8+ Bf8 35. Qxf8#.

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