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| Oct-29-14 | | ljfyffe: <sachistu>The St. John Globe may be of help as Narraway used to be a hometown boy. The 1898 Toronto Globe may also be at the local library--l'll check as soon as possible.l went through this stuff many years ago and seem to have a vague
recollection of a Goldstein, but then again.... |
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| Oct-30-14 | | ljfyffe: Went to the local library....found nothing. |
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| Oct-30-14 | | ljfyffe: The Fischer mentioned in Narraway's game page
bio should be Fisher. |
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| Oct-30-14 | | ljfyffe: <sachistu>as you have likely noticed Narraway-Germain 1898 championship is on the Narraway page. |
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| Nov-01-14 | | ljfyffe: Jean Herbert page: first game likely Floyd Herbert of Washington. |
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| Nov-07-14 | | ljfyffe: Lasker-Robert H. Ramsey 1907 should be Russell H. Ramsey, his son. Philadelphia lnquirer
Dec. 15, 1907. |
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| Nov-07-14 | | ljfyffe: Ladket-Short 1892 played in Montreal. |
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| Nov-08-14 | | ljfyffe: That, of course, should Lasker-Short....basically, putting down this list to remind myself what's been covered. |
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| Nov-13-14 | | ljfyffe: E. Adam and Edmund Adam --- the same player. |
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| Apr-09-16 | | ljfyffe: The 1897 picture lists J Fish, E Saunders, W Jones, N Brown, C Germain, S Goldstein, J
Narraway, T Davis, A Stephenson, J Beynon,
Dr. Kennedy, A Snellgrove, H Hill. |
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| Apr-09-16 | | ljfyffe: <sachistu> I have a 1897 Paquet newspaper pic of some of the players at Orillia where it's S.Goldstein that I copied down as the initial. |
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| Apr-15-16 | | ljfyffe: St. John Globe: July 16, 1897 lists an <S. Goldstein>for the Orillia tournament. |
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| Apr-15-16 | | ljfyffe: <sachistu>But there is in 1903, a Rice Gambit tourney conducted by the same league; Saunders played. |
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| Apr-16-16 | | ljfyffe: American Chess Magazine: 1897 Orillia CCA
<J.E. Narraway, Ottawa, won the tournament;
E. Saunders, Toronto, second; H. Jackson, Orillia, third prize. S. Goldstein, Toronto, won the consolation prize.> |
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| Apr-18-16 | | ljfyffe: <sachistu> As I figured the Saunders- Wheeler game should be dated 1903:
St. John Globe Chess column, Sept. 11,1903. The game is given with the following comments: <Game played in the Rice Gambit Tournament
of the Pillsbury N.C.C.A between E. Saunders of Toronto and C.H. Wheeler of Chicago.> |
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 | | Tabanus: <ljfyffe> White would be Ernest Saunders. In 1901, Edward was already established as a "Jeweller Gold" in London. I'll send a correction slip! |
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Apr-18-16
| | Tabanus: <ljfyffe> Brookly Daily Eagle mentions the participants in 1903, no Wheeler no Saunders. There was a corr. match over 100 boards ca. 1899 (34 games finished by Sept. 1899) between America and Canada, organized by the Pillsbury NCCA and the CCA. Perhaps the game is from that event. |
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| | Tabanus: And on 7 Jan. 1900, BDE reports that 66 games have been concluded and that C. H. Wheeler of Chicago has won a game. Without saying who the Canadian opponent was. |
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| Apr-18-16 | | luftforlife: From the Saunders Chess Timeline (part two of two) (Ernest Saunders (kibitz #124)) *Rice Gambit Tourney, Pillsbury Nat'l Correspondence Chess Ass'n , 1903* E. Saunders, Toronto v. C.H. Wheeler, Chicago (result unclear; may be 0-1). Seemingly partial, possibly complete annotated game-score reported in Checkmate (Prescott, Ontario: J.H. Graham), Vol. II, No. 12, Sept. 1903, at 279-80. |
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| Apr-18-16 | | ljfyffe: <Tabanus>The game, under the King's Gambit Rice Gambit site, gives it as a 1903 Toronto-Chicago correspondence game. So Stubbs appears incorrect as far as it being part of the official gambit tournament. He does say it's the same E. Saunders of Toronto that came to Saint John in 1899. The column in which the game appears in the Globe is Sept, 11, 1903. |
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| Apr-18-16 | | luftforlife: <Tab> <ljfyffe>: The description and atrribution of the game pubished in Checkmate matches the game-comment in St. John Globe, Sept. 11, 1903: both sources recite that this game was played in the Rice Gambit Tournament (Checkmate reads "Tourney") of the Pillsbury N.C.C.A. between E. Saunders, of Toronto, and C.H. Wheeler, of Chicago. The final statement in the Checkmate scoreline, after "28 QR - Q1," reads: "At this point Black announced mate in 12 moves, beginning with 28. . . . Kt-B7." |
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| Apr-18-16 | | luftforlife: I'm not sure the following link will be of use to anyone outside the United States, but here's a Google Books link to Checkmate, Vol. II, No. 12, Sept. 1903, at 279: https://books.google.com/books?id=0... |
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| Apr-18-16 | | luftforlife: The score rendered in descriptive notation in Checkmate matches the score rendered in algebraic notation here on <cg>. |
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| | Tabanus: Mmm, yes. BDE 12 April 1903 says "150 players have filed their entries for the Rice Gambit correspondence tournament, to be started this month by the Pillsbury National Correspondence Chess Association of Chicago. President Lee W. Parke expects to bring the total up to 200 before play actually begins." Should I change date to 1903? If you think the game was over by 10 September. |
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| Apr-19-16 | | ljfyffe: Certainly fits in with the Rice Gambit NCCA 1903 correspondence games though a site I came upon lists Saunders-Wheeler as 1903 Chicago-Toronto for some reason while others are listed as 1903 NCCA correspondence. |
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