Apr-05-13 | | suenteus po 147: 12.Be3 is just ugly. Reti must have had a better move. Also, I've played open games like this (in Reti's position) where my Queen gets caught in the center acting defensively for other pieces and the opponent's pieces usually get to act like marauders, breaking up the position and snatching pawns along the way as Marshall's do here. |
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Apr-05-13 | | RookFile: Maybe after Be3 he should have bailed out and played Nxc6 and Bxb6. I was rather expecting Marshall to find a way to play Rxe3 here but it didn't happen. |
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Apr-05-13
 | | perfidious: On reviewing Games Like Reti vs Marshall, 1925, it was surprising to see how poorly White has scored in this form of Tarrasch QGD. In this early middlegame, White should be fine, but this game is an object example of how his opponent's superior activity and spatial advantage can be converted into direct attack in the face of superficial play, especially in the hands of Marshall, attacker sans peur et sans reproche. |
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May-27-17 | | zanzibar: CPL White collection has this photograph, labeled <Marshall--Reti (Moscow 1925)>: http://cplorg.cdmhost.com/cdm/singl... But I don't think it matches this game, especially given that the photo seems to show Marshall playing White. I don't think it matches any of the 1925 Marshall // Reti contests. Anyone have an idea if the photo is from an actual <CG> game, or is the caption correct and it just was a skittles game setup for the photo shoot? . |
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Feb-12-20 | | sudoplatov: 12.Be3 does well in Chess 365 on move 12 but the follups how Black doing better. Both 12.h3 and 122.b3 are suggested as better. One of the online analysis engines evaluates 12.Be3 as -.75 Pawns in Black's favor. 12...Ne4 is seen as best, 12...Rxe3 as next and 12...Bd7 as good. (12...Rxe3 fairs poorly later with 12....Bd3 being better after horizon pushing a bit.) |
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Feb-12-20 | | sudoplatov: Both computers recommend 13...Rc1 as the Rook on c1 hangs to the Bishop after ...Bxe4. It may fizzle though. 15.Rfd1 also looks like an error. It's weird that the positions of B on e3 and Rooks on c1 and d1 are sometimes good for White in the Tarrasch. However, Marshall does concentrate on e3. 17...c5 seems quite strong (Carauna showed this in the Petroff) in this type of position. Reti's Be3 and Rd1 seem to have got him into a bit of trouble. Marshall is EDO rated at 2595 and Reti at 2564 for 1925 (#7 and #10, neither a slouch.) |
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Dec-03-20 | | jerseybob: If Reti truly wanted to be "Reti-like" in this game, he might've tried 5.b3, a move that seems decent from the 365Chess Opening Explorer. White seems to be banking here on the purely theoretical advantage of playing against black's isolated QP and expecting that that alone will win the game. But as is often true in Tarrasch positions, black's active play more than compensates. |
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Dec-04-20 | | sudoplatov: Marshall did well against Reti and Nimzovich. Perhaps Marshall did understand the hypermodern ideas (Capablanca surely did.) |
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Jan-08-24 | | unspiek: <sudoplatov>
I've seen it asserted that Marshall did well against Nimzowitsch; Marshall said it himself; is that based on anything but trash talk? In this database, Nimzowitsch outpointed Marshall, 6 wins to 5. If anyone knows anything clarifying this matter, I'd be interested to learn it. |
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Jan-08-24
 | | Benzol: According to Keene and Divinely in their book Warriors Of The Mind Niemzowitsch did indeed beat Marshall with 6 wins to 5 and 8 draws over 19 encounters. |
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Jan-08-24 | | Alan McGowan: See also Foltys vs P Michel, 1939 |
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Jan-08-24 | | Olavi: In the late twenties when Nimzowitsch was arguably number three in the world and Marshall twenty years past his peak, he did very well against Nimzo. But I seem to remember that Marshall put it the way that he felt at ease playing Nimzowitsch; I'll have to check My Fifty Years of Chess. |
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