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| Feb-01-03 | | refutor: very nice king hunt by lasker...i don't play the QGD as white but the idea of Qxd4 followed by O-O-O seems a little dubious to me |
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| Feb-01-03 | | BLD9802: Pillsbury got some revenge a few years later in Pillsbury-Lasker, Cambridge Springs 1904. |
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| Feb-01-03 | | ughaibu: Lasker said this was his best "combinational" game. My favourite victory by Pillsbury is his game with Lasker from Nuerenburg 1896(?) |
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| Feb-01-03 | | AirForceOne: Did the game actually end with a checkmate like this? Compared to the game between Steinitz and von Bardeleden, he saw it more than 10 moves ahead. |
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| Feb-01-03 | | ughaibu: I think Abrahams in The Chess Mind says that Lasker announced a mate in four. |
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| Jul-20-03 | | Drstrangelove: I know this might sound trivial, but I was wondering where the tradition of “announcing mate” came from. I never really understood if that would be considered disrespectful, or even the opposite. Also I see a lot of that in the older games but do not hear of people announcing mate as of the present. Is there a reason for this or does it still occur? |
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| Jul-20-03 | | ughaibu: I imagine it came about in the days before chess clocks, when the opponent might spend two hours on a move it's preferable to announce the mate and get out before the pubs close. |
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| Aug-02-03 | | Kenkaku: Supposedly Pillsbury found out he'd contracted syphilis some time before this game, and he, who had been leader up until that time, collapsed vs. Lasker here, playing badly in the rest of the tournament to finish third ahead of only Tchigorin. |
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| Aug-04-03 | | Calli: Kasparov claims that Lasker's famous combination is, in fact, only a draw. The main line is: 19 bxa3! Qb6+ 20 Kc2 Rc8+ 21 Kd2 Qxd4+ 22 Ke1 Qc3+ 23 Ke2 Qc2+ 24 Rd2 Qe4+ 25 Kd1! Qb1+ 26 Ke2 etc [Kasparov] |
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| Aug-04-03 | | ughaibu: Kenkaku: It's also possible that Pillsbury's subsequent poor play in this tournament was partially a reaction to this defeat. |
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| Aug-04-03 | | Kenkaku: Undoubtedly, I was mainly implying that this particular loss may have been partially due to his mental state after finding out. This game probably combined with that to take away alot of his confidence, rendering him unable to play at his former level for the rest of the tournament. |
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| Aug-07-03 | | PVS: Was the game over before 28. Kxa3? What is the best move here? Anything good? |
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| Aug-07-03 | | Kenkaku: 28. Qf5+ Kh8 29. Qc2 perhaps? |
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| Aug-07-03 | | ughaibu: I always felt that 19.e7 would've been better than the move played. |
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| Aug-07-03 | | PVS: <I always felt that 19.e7 would've been better than the move played.> It sure would be if the reply were 19...Rc8 (allowing 20.Qf5), but what about 19...Re8? |
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| Aug-07-03 | | PVS: <28. Qf5+ Kh8 29. Qc2 perhaps?> I like 28.Qf5 at first blush. |
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| Aug-07-03 | | Ashley: What about 29. Kb1 after 28. Qf5+ Kh8? |
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| Aug-07-03 | | Calli: If 19 e7 Re8! as PVS points out. then 20 bxa3 Qb6+ 21 Kc2 is similar to the game. |
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| Aug-07-03 | | bobscreech: what is the point of 21.Bb5 |
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| Aug-07-03 | | Calli: Laskers 27...Kh7? is a mistake because it does allow 28.Qf5+ Kh8 29 Kb1! and white is safe. The point is that if Bxd4? then Qf8+ and Qxa3. |
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| Aug-07-03 | | Kenkaku: In his annotation to this game Kasparov says that 28. Qf5+! Kh8 29. Kb1! is the best continuation for white, forcing black to soon give perpetual check. |
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| Aug-07-03 | | Calli: <bobscreech> 21.Bb5! is brilliant defense by Pillsbury. He deflects the queen from attacking d4 and defends the first rank with the rook at h1. Note that he plays 23.Rd2. This would be mate if he didn't play Bb5 first. |
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| Oct-22-03 | | drukenknight: I took another look at this game. Even if Lasker plays 27...Kh8 there does not appear to be a win. So Laskers earlier sack does not appear to win the game. The only mistake was Pillsbury's; grabbing second R and overlooking a 4 move mate. That's the summary of the entire ballgame. |
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| Oct-23-03 | | Calli: Oh come on! 27...Kh8 wins and its pretty simple. Black threatens Qxa2+, so 28.Kb1 is forced 28...Bxd4 29.Qe2 (there is nothing better) 29...Qb4+ and after the exchanges, Black is two pawns up. |
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