Jul-25-03
 | | Ron: Appears that 35. ... Qb1+ is the move that leads to the win for Black. |
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Nov-09-24 | | Twilight of the Idol: <Ron: Appears that 35. ... Qb1+ is the move that leads to the win for Black.> It's certainly the immediate cause for 0-1. Patzer that I am, I can't help but trace white's defeat to 17. Ng5? |
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Nov-09-24 | | goodevans: <TotI> I would go for <?!> rather than a straight <?> to describe 17.Ng5. It was undoubtedly intended as a piece sac to open up the Black K but with White already in the ascendancy it was probably unnecessary. It wasn’t though the ultimate cause of his demise. <Ron> Yes, 35…Qb1+ teamed with 36…Ne2 set up an unstoppable threat. What I hugely admire about this finish is that now Black’s K seems so open to attack but he’d calculated that he could always find safety. It seems White was guilty of overestimating his winning chances with <34.Bxh4>. If instead he’d taken the N on e6 then after 34…hxg3 35.fxg3 Black would have had perpetual check but it appears White would have been better off settling for that. |
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Nov-09-24 | | Teyss: It's always impressive when a player uses his King as a bait, by keeping it in the middle and opening all sides, to launch a counter-attack as the opponent's pieces are floating away from his King. Some luck and some mistakes as pointed above, yet still impressive. Unless I am overinterpreting the pun, it could be related to the heated debates on Rogoff. To which side it is addressed, no clue. Both probably. |
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Nov-09-24 | | stone free or die: <<Teyss> Unless I am overinterpreting the pun, it could be related to the heated debates on Rogoff.> <Don't feed the trolls> is pretty universal, even generic, advice, applicable across the entire internet. |
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Nov-09-24
 | | sleepyirv: <Unless I am overinterpreting the pun, it could be related to the heated debates on Rogoff. To which side it is addressed, no clue. Both probably.> This is a rather old submission of mine, I was not referencing anything about this website, only the tournament name and several sacrifices within the game. Though I cannot speak to why <CG> picked today to use it. |
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Nov-09-24 | | Teyss: Hi stone free or die,
Of course but the debates seem particularly heated since the result of the elections. That said, I only looked at Rogoff for the last few weeks to have a better understanding what is happening in the US, so a veteran like you will probably tell me there were carnages before. Coming back to the game, Black was supplying White with the hope he could have a go at his King, which backfired, so the pun should actually be <Do Feed the Trolls>. It looked like "Now that you're aboard, I'll set fire to the ship." BTW no clue why the tournament is called this way apart from the fact it's in Norway and the creature is part of Nordic folklore. The official website (or websites since there's one per year, when there is) is amateurish, in a nice way, so the name is probably just humorous. |
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Nov-09-24 | | Teyss: Hi sleepyirv,
We posted at the same time. Maybe I'm overinterpreting Missy's reasons, which remain a mystery to us all. |
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Nov-09-24 | | stone free or die: The main (only?) punster on <CG> is <Missy>, aka <MissScarlett>. (Here, punster means the one who selects the GotD - almost always based on the pun, the actual game being of secondary concern) FWIW - the two main non-chess forums with trolls are The Kibitzer's Café (permanently inhabited by one troll) Kenneth Rogoff (bucketfuls, a veritable jungle of trolls) Some of the other non-chess forums have occasional flare-ups that usually die down. E.g. Odd Lie Interestingly, the sports forum seems like a politically neutral zone, inhabited by many Rogoffians who can actually conduct (semi-)civil conversations. Jeremy Lim Aside - I think the pun can cut both ways here, similar to <Teyss>. But I haven't played the game through too closely, ymmv. |
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