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Edmar J Mednis vs Jan Timman
"Can I Play With Mednis?" (game of the day May-24-2018)
Parcetic Memorial 6th (1974), Sombor YUG, rd 5, Sep-28
Sicilian Defense: Scheveningen Variation. Keres Attack (B81)  ·  1-0

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Oct-05-04  aw1988: Hey metal head, we're all kibitzing about you! Put some oil in your head and acknowledge our congratulations! :) How old now? 16, 17?
Oct-05-04
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  cu8sfan: He hasn't been seen today. Maybe he's gone away for his birthday.

Btw how did cg.com know it was his birthday? Big Brother's everywhere!

Oct-05-04  iron maiden: Hey everybody! Wish I could've been here sooner, but unfortunately I had to work.

<patzer2> More Iron Maiden works related to classical literature and history include Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner, The Trooper, Montsegur, Paschendale, Seventh Son of a Seventh Son and Phantom of the Opera.

A big thank you to chessgames.com and everybody else who (somehow) found out my seventeenth birthday was today. To be honest I think "Can I Play With Madness" is slightly overrated, but it's still a nice song.

Oct-05-04  iron maiden: BTW chessgames, who was the "good authority" that gave you the idea for the pun? I owe him or her the biggest "thank you" of all!
Oct-06-04
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  kevin86: You have a heart:<iron maiden>
Nov-06-04  morphy234: UP THE IRONS! I slap myself for not knowing who Iron Maiden is.
Nov-18-10  sevenseaman: Why should so much kibitzing be wasted on a mere pun? If it is not widely understood, it cant be much fun.

A pun-tortured King once banned all punning. The court jester was an addict and could not resist. He was duly sentenced to be hanged.

After some pleas for mercy the King relented to give one last chance to the joker.

The court officer with the dispatch, 'the King has spared your life on condition never to pun again'.

'No noose is good noose' said the unfortunate one and got hanged.

CG, who is the King here? A good game though.

Oct-10-14  Rookiepawn: <If Iron Maiden ever wrote a song about sex, drugs, or rock and roll, I never heard it>

It is curious to value art according to its subject. This criterion would certainly rule out the Arabian Nights (lots of sex), Shakespeare (murder, madness, greed, violence), de Quincey (drugs galore), Goya (a father eating his own son!, which by the way belongs to Greek mithology, something to rule out too).

Oct-10-14
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  nok: Never heard of a lady named Charlotte?
Jul-18-16  Cobax12: Keres Atack 6g4!
May-24-18  ndg2: What was 20..h6 about? Reeks of loss of valuable time.
May-24-18
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  tpstar: <BTW chessgames, who was the "good authority" that gave you the idea for the pun? I owe him or her the biggest "thank you" of all!>

A great question.

<Why should so much kibitzing be wasted on a mere pun?>

Another great question.

May-24-18  dumbgai: The best Iron Maiden song is Hallowed Be Thy Name.
May-24-18
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  takchess: Thought it was a play on word of one of his book titles Ie How to beat Bobby Fischer etc. Good Pun although it needed to be explained to me. Those little Mednis endgame books aren't bad by the way. It must of been tough making a living as a US GM in the 60's and 70's.
May-24-18
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  offramp: <morphy234: i don't get the pun.
<siggemannen: it's an Iron Maiden tune>>

That is <one> explanation.

A more reasonable alternative is that the organisers of the very strong Parcetic Memorial in 1974 approached Jan Timman and said,
<"We want you to have an easy start to this tournament. Any wishes?">
To which Jan Timman repled...
[Continued on page 3]

May-24-18  ChessHigherCat: <dumbgai> Sure you're not thinking of Alice Cooper? Alice Cooper Lyrics - Hallowed Be My Name - AZLyrics https://www.azlyrics.com A Alice Cooper Lyrics

That's on the Love it Death album, which is pure gold except for "Eighteen", which was of course was the big hit they wrote as a compromise to get the record made.

Here's the crappy song on which the pun is based, which is at the opposite end of the creativity scale from Alice Cooper. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kvq...

May-24-18
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  morfishine: <ChessHigherCat> Iron Maiden 'Hallowed be Thy Name': https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1...

*****

May-24-18  ChessHigherCat: <morfishne> Anyway, for the REAL one...
May-24-18
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  HeMateMe: I don't understand the pun. I hope it isn't something dirty...
May-24-18
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  morfishine: <ChessHigherCat> Well in any case, these are different song titles by 1 word, 'my' versus 'thy' :)
May-24-18  ChessHigherCat: I confess I never got into Iron Maiden (neither the group nor the spiked casket) and never even heard that song. "Hallowed be My Name", a real messiah complex, has a lot more potential for craziness.
May-24-18  ChessHigherCat: It tried to find it on YouTube but they only have a completely ridiculous Cheech&Chong version! You can get MP3 versions of Love it Death and Killer here https://www.amazon.com/Love-Death-A...
May-24-18
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  thegoodanarchist: <If Iron Maiden ever wrote a song about sex, drugs, or rock and roll, I never heard it>

Well of course it wasn't Iron Maiden!

It was...

Ian Dury and Chaz Janke who wrote it.

And Ian performed it with the Blockheads

May-25-18  cormier:


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Analysis by Houdini 4 Pro w32: d 27 dpa

1. = (0.21): 7.h4 a6 8.Bg2 Nc6 9.g5 Nd7 10.f4 Qb6 11.Nf3 hxg5 12.hxg5 Rxh1+ 13.Bxh1 g6 14.a3 Qa5 15.Qe2 Bg7 16.Bd2 Nb4 17.Rc1 Nc6 18.Kf1 Qb6 19.Rb1 Nd4 20.Nxd4 Bxd4 21.Be1 Be3 22.Bf2 Bxf2 23.Qxf2

2. = (0.11): 7.g5 hxg5 8.Bxg5 Nc6 9.Qd2 Qb6 10.Nb3 Ne5 11.Qe2 Be7 12.0-0-0 Nd5 13.exd5 Bxg5+ 14.Kb1 Kf8 15.h4 Bf6 16.h5 Ng6 17.Qf3 Nh4 18.Qd3 e5 19.Bh3 Rxh5 20.Nd2 Be7 21.Qe2 Rh8

3. = (0.08): 7.Rg1 a6 8.h4 d5 9.exd5 Nxd5 10.Nxd5 Qxd5 11.Be3 Be7 12.Nf3 Qxd1+ 13.Rxd1 Nc6 14.a3 b5 15.Bd3 Bb7 16.Be4 Rc8 17.c3 Na5 18.Bxb7 Nxb7 19.h5 Na5 20.Nd2 0-0 21.Ke2 Nc6 22.f4 e5 23.Kf3

4. = (0.08): 7.Be3 a6 8.h4 d5 9.exd5 Nxd5 10.Nxd5 Qxd5 11.Rg1 Be7 12.Nf3 Qxd1+ 13.Rxd1 Nc6 14.a3 b5 15.Bd3 Bb7 16.Be4 Rc8 17.c3 Na5 18.Bxb7 Nxb7 19.h5 Na5 20.Nd2 0-0 21.Ke2 Nc6 22.f4 e5 23.Kf3

5. = (0.08): 7.h3 Be7 8.Be3 a6 9.a3 Nc6 10.Qd2 Nxd4 11.Qxd4 b5 12.0-0-0 Bb7 13.f4 0-0 14.g5 hxg5 15.fxg5 Nd7 16.h4 Ne5 17.Be2 Rc8 18.Kb1 Nc4 19.Rhf1 Nxe3 20.Qxe3 Qc7 21.Bg4 Qc5 22.Qf4 Kh7 23.Be2 Rc7 24.Qg4 g6 25.Qf3 Ba8

May-26-18  cormier: Analysis by Houdini 4: d 28 dpa done

1. = (0.13): 6.f4 a6 7.Be2 Be7 8.Be3 0-0 9.Qd2 Qc7 10.Bf3 Nc6 11.0-0 Nxd4 12.Bxd4 e5 13.Bf2 Bd7 14.Rad1 Rac8 15.Rfe1 Rfe8 16.h3 h6 17.a3 Qc4 18.f5

2. = (0.13): 6.Be2 a6 7.f4 Be7 8.Be3 0-0 9.Qd2 Qc7 10.Bf3 Nc6 11.0-0 Nxd4 12.Bxd4 e5 13.Bf2 Bd7 14.Rad1 Rac8 15.Rfe1 Rfe8 16.h3 h6 17.a3 Qc4 18.f5

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