Jan Timman vs Fritz (Computer) (1997)

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Jan Timman vs Fritz (Computer)
AEGON Simul (1997) (exhibition), The Hague NED, Apr-16
Queen Pawn Game: Torre Attack. Gossip Variation (D03) · 1-0

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Dec-02-04		Whitehat1963: Nice play from Timman.

Feb-01-05		schnarre: Timman really shows the versatility & solidity of the Torre. White should have little difficulty dealing with Black's pawn majority.

Feb-19-05		aw1988: <Catfriend> Here's one, not so spectacular, but one nonetheless.

Oct-02-05		aw1988: <Catfriend> Multi-Queens

Jan-11-06		schnarre: Always interesting to see multi-Queen games.

Mar-16-06		TheWhiteRider: Move 37 white to play. Would be a nice quiz. Probably not a week end one but still... I liked it.

Apr-27-06		babakova: I loathe club players who always play the torre setup no matter what black replies. They always try for the same basic tactics too, yuck.

Oct-03-17		fredthebear: This is NOT an easy finish for White. What unit will advance far enough to support the queen giving checkmate? The Black queenside passers can be stopped, but working two jobs at once isn't easy with Black having the Bishop shuffle available to pass the turn. I like a modern computer's chances to draw by forming an ideal pawn fortress w/an active bishop and a queenside passer to stretch White on both sides of the board. In 1997, Fritz probably cannot pull it off against a GM, but today it could be a different matter.

Apr-24-25		MarcusBierce: <ftb> it may be tough to generate a fortress in this position because the dark squares cannot be defended, and the LSB will be tied down to defending the pawns on the light squares, restricting its mobility

Apr-24-25		FM David H. Levin: <<fredthebear>: This is NOT an easy finish for White. What unit will advance far enough to support the queen giving checkmate?> I'd say, White's king. I don't see how its eventual march to f8 could be prevented, followed by positioning the queen so as to attack g7. An analogous king excursion occurred in D H Levin vs D Vest, 2000.

Apr-24-25		OhioChessFan: Playing along with Stockfish: 1) +4.74 (24 ply) 40...b4 43.Qa4 c5 44.Qb5 b3 45.Qxb3 c4 46.Qb4 Kg6 47.Kg3 Kf6 48.Qb2+ Kg6 49.Kf2 Bf5 50.Qb6 Be4 51.Qc7 Bd3 52.Qe5 Bf5 53.Ke2 h5 54.Qc7 h4 55.Kd2 f6 I don't know why Black wouldn't just shuffle the Bishop. In human terms, advancing the Pawns weakens them. Anyway, here's the position: click for larger view I threw it in SF for 6 seconds and it spit out: 1) +5.37 (37 ply) 54.Qe7 Kh7 55. Qe8 Be4 56. Qh5+ Kg8 57. Qg4 Kf7 58. Kc3 Kg8 59. Qxe6+ <Here's where advancing the Pawns seems so ill advised. I don't get it, but I grudgingly defer to SF> Kf8 60. Qc8+ Kf7 61. Qg4 Kf8 62. Qxh4 <Again, the advanced Pawns. I don't get it.> Bxg2 63. Qg4 Be4 64. Qe6 Bf3 65. Kb4 Be4 66. Ka5 <Understanding this move is important for many similar endgame positions> c3 67. Qc8+ Kf7 68. Qxc3 g5 69. Qc6 gxf4 70. exf4 f5 71. Kb4 Bf3 click for larger view Still looks tough. I think the White King gets to e5 and he trades Q for BPP and wins with the remaining f Pawn. I'll play with it some more before tossing it in the engine for confirmation.

Apr-24-25		OhioChessFan: I plugged it into an endgame database and White has any number of ways of winning, many of them beyond my understanding.

Apr-25-25		MarcusBierce: <OCF> <click for larger view Still looks tough. I think the White King gets to e5 and he trades Q for BPP and wins with the remaining f Pawn. I'll play with it some more before tossing it in the engine for confirmation.> I don’t see how Black stops the White K and Q from eventually checkmating the Black K.

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