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|Jun-22-05|| ||halcyonteam: Who use Chessmaster 10 here?
|Jun-22-05|| ||LuckyBlunder: Nice - easy - one, even novices like me can find <17.Nxf6+> interesting :)) . The winning line that follows is : <17.Nxf6+ pxf6, 18.Rhg1+ Kh8, 19.Nxf7+ Rxf7, 20.Rd8+ Rf8, 21.Rf8#> , isn't it ?|
|Jun-22-05|| ||Stevens: hooray! I got this one too! It took a little while to understand why 19...Rxf7 didn't work but i got there in the end. Once i'm visualising 3 or 4 moves ahead without a board i find it gets tricky!|
|Jun-22-05|| ||DanRoss53: Does 16... ♗d8!? keep it relatively even?|
|Jun-22-05|| ||freditalia: Hello
it's my first message. excuse for my poor english.
For this problem, i liked it. Nice.
|Jun-22-05|| ||howardtheduck: is it me or the puzzle are relatively easy this week??|
|Jun-22-05|| ||Saph: I'll join the chorus of "I saw it all". Because I saw it all. And I never manage that.|
|Jun-22-05|| ||DanRoss53: <MaxxLange>: Beautiful line...it doesn't matter whether it's originally yours or not. Check out J Arizmendi-Martinez vs I Yagupov, 2003 -- a correspondence game that used that line. There are also several games available at www.chesslive.de that use this line...most notably:|
[Event "URS-ch FL54"]
[Black "Novikov,Igor A"]
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.Bc4 e6 7.Bb3 b5 8.Bg5 Be7 9.Qf3 Qc7 10.0-0-0 0-0 11.e5 Bb7 12.exf6 Bxf3 13.fxe7 Bxd1 14.exf8=Q+ Kxf8 15.Rxd1 d5 16.g3 Nd7 17.Be3 Nc5 18.Kb1 Rc8 19.a3 Qb7 20.f4 b4 21.axb4 Qxb4 22.f5 Nxb3 23.Nxb3 Qg4 24.Bc5+ Kg8 25.fxe6 fxe6 26.Re1 Qc4 27.Bd4 a5 28.Be5 a4 29.Nd4 a3 30.Nb3 axb2 31.Kxb2 Ra8 32.Bd4 Rb8 33.Rd1 h6 34.Be5 Rb7 35.h4 Qg4 36.Rd3 Qf5 37.Re3 Qf2 38.Re2 Qf3 39.Kc1 Rb4 40.Kd2 Rc4 41.Re3 Qf2+ 42.Re2 1/2
|Jun-22-05|| ||Averageguy: This seems a very easy puzzle, but I didn't get it so fast. I just forgot about the rook on h1 but when I saw it I got the puzzle easily.|
|Jun-22-05|| ||zb2cr: Got the puzzle in about 45 seconds of concentrated thought. I love it when they're easy enough for me to get it under simulated game conditions!|
|Jun-22-05|| ||gambitfan: nice endgame...
not too difficult...
|Jun-22-05|| ||YouRang: Got it. It was pretty clear that we needed 17. NxBf6 to pave the way for 18. Rg1+, trapping the king on h8. After that, the only 'trick' was to notice that after 19. Nxf7+, that this cleared a path for the other white rook to swoop down and deliver mate.|
But it was pretty easy because these were the only 'forcing' moves in sight.
|Jun-22-05|| ||Halldor: Nice forced line and rather easy to find. Also a good training for us mortals to visualize some moves ahead. 17. Nxf6+ gxf6 18. Rhg1+ Kh8 19. Nxf7+ RxN 20. Rd8+ and mate in two moves if Black is stubborn enough to keep on playing. - Good puzzle!|
|Jun-22-05|| ||kevin86: Black unwittingly opened the road to his king with the queen exchange at f3-black then completed the opening with the exchange at f6.|
With that,black's king sees the light at the end of the tunnel-white's rook,resembling a train.
|Jun-22-05|| ||keypusher: Well, it was good enough to beat a 2234-rated opponent. Look how Mr. Coleman kicks Ass here:|
D Coleman vs H A Gretarsson, 1995
|Jun-22-05|| ||Knight13: Intersting puzzle. I like it!|
|Jun-22-05|| ||Eric Xanthus: To liven up these comments, I'll share my stupidity. I said, "Look, 17.Nxf6 and then...yep, 18.Rg1+ on the recapture, king in the corner, ok, 19.Nxf7+...Shoot, that doesn't work. Black takes the knight and the attack runs out."|
Yeah. This is why I don't play chess.
|Jun-22-05|| ||Knight13: <Eric Xanthus: To liven up these comments, I'll share my stupidity. I said, "Look, 17.Nxf6 and then...yep, 18.Rg1+ on the recapture, king in the corner, ok, 19.Nxf7+...Shoot, that doesn't work. Black takes the knight and the attack runs out."> After 19... Rxf7 white has 20. Rd8+!! which wins the game.|
|Jun-22-05|| ||Eric Xanthus: Seems my sarcasm failed to cross the cultural divide. Anyone else need me to clear it up?|
|Jun-22-05|| ||Shokwave: No, we all got it :)|
|Jun-22-05|| ||WannaBe: <Eric Xanthus: Yeah. This is why I don't play chess.>
Practice, Practice, nothing is easy, especially chess. Don't get discouraged so easily.|
|Jun-22-05|| ||chessic eric: easy wednesday...even if some didn't see the bank rank after Nxf7, Rxf7, white owns the g file due to smothered mate threat (...Rg8? Nxf7#) and rook mobility, and can win easily without Nxf7+ by doubling on the g file Rg3, Rdg1, Rg7 etc... with overwhelming force on both f7 and g8|
|Jun-22-05|| ||Dick Brain: <chessic eric> what if Black played ...Ra7 followed by ...Rd7|
|Jun-23-05|| ||Averageguy: <halcyonteam> I use Chassmaster 10.|
|Jun-28-05|| ||chessic eric: <Dick Brain> I think the following is winning: 19. Rg3, Ra7 20. Rdg1, Rd7 21.Nxf7+. If 21...Rfxf7 then 22. Rg8#
If 21...Rdxf7 then 22. Bxe6 - that is the force on f7 and g8 to which I was referring. Obviously not as clean as the problem solution, and incorporating the same move several moves late, but still winning.|
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