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Dragoljub Jacimovic vs Vladimir Trkaljanov
European Championship (2001), Ohrid MKD, rd 2, Jun-02
Benoni Defense: Taimanov Variation (A67)  ·  1-0

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Sep-19-11
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  FSR: <al wazir: Why didn't black play 29...Qxd6 ? It apparently gives black a winning two- advantage. Yes, it loses the same way as 33...Qxd6, but that didn't stop him from playing it four moves later.>

With 33...Qxd6 Black could hope for some miracle perpetual check after 34.Re8+ Kg7 35.Rxd8 Qxh2+. Not much of a hope, I grant you, especially since it's a correspondence game.

Sep-19-11  dzechiel: White to move (34?). Black is up a pawn. "Very Easy."

This took me longer than it probably should have, mostly because of the plethora of candidate moves.

34 Re8+

does the trick. Black can choose between

- 34 Rxe8
- 34 Kg7
- 34 Qf8

but they all lose a queen for a rook at minimum.

Sep-19-11  Robespierre: Wow -- it really is easy when even I get the puzzle in less than 30 seconds!
Sep-19-11  whiteshark: Typical ♕♖ tactics.

Monday is a lame way to spend 1/7 of your life.

Sep-19-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  Once: <whiteshark: Monday is a lame way to spend 1/7 of your life.>

I'm guessing you're a glass half empty sort of chap?

Each day is what we make of it. An easy puzzle leaves more time to dream, write poetry, rewind the position to a more interesting variation, wonder "what if", let your imagination soar, make mad passionate lurve to the man or woman of your dreams (whether they are in the room with you or not).

So in today's POTD, sure the answer is Mondeasy. The moorish monarch protected only by a rook. Deflect rook. Win queen. As the meerkat says, simples.

But look a little deeper and there is something of interest here. 34. Re8+ Kg7 35. Rxe8


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And we have a cute little x-ray where the white rook and queen protect each other through the black queen. And that is kinda funny.

Or rewind one move to the position after 33. fxg5 and wonder why black didn't play 33...Qxg5. And had he played that, how would white have won? Doesn't look clear-cut to me.

Or rewind a little bit further back to the position after 29. Qxd3


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Here black spotted that he could not play Qxd6 and played 29...Qg7 instead. But if he spotted the tactic then how come he forgot it later? I'm guessing time trouble as the decisive tactic came in the mid 30s.

Or watch white's play generally. As the higher rated player he doesn't want a draw. So he makes threat after threat, needling black, pushing him, giving him problems to solve. Eventually black cracks, and white is on hand with his tactical acuity to punish him.

Fritzie doesn't think that white has much of an edge right until the last mistake. It probably should have been a draw. But white wasn't happy with this, so he bullied and he caused trouble and eventually created an opportunity. Or rather, he created the conditions were black was flustered into giving him an opportunity.

Or read the kibitzing and enjoy the concept of the rook on d8 being unable to protect both the queen and itself. Pieces are not en prise - they are simply protecting themselves. Apparently.

It's only lame if we let it be.

Sep-19-11  whiteshark: <Once: <I'm guessing you're a glass half empty sort of chap?>> That's not my cup of tea. :D

Absurdity is what I like most in life, and there's humor in struggling in ignorance. If you saw a man repeatedly running into a wall until he was a bloody pulp, after a while it would make you laugh because it becomes absurd.

Sep-19-11  Memethecat: well <34Re8+> wins the exchange, if <34...Rxe8 35 Qxd6> wins the Q. If <34...Kg7 35Rxd8> wins the R. I hope that's it & I've not missed some obvious mating sequence.
Sep-19-11  morfishine: <34.Re8+> Black's rook is overloaded.

Interesting are the various tid-bits and insight offered up by today's <solvers>. Monday puzzles can benefit one's chess knowledge.

<Once> I imagine, even for you, there are rare times when subject matter is scarce and perhaps, since its a Monday, the motivation to produce a short story is lacking; Not today though! Never Fear! Lets key-off a simple short post and run with it, and so again, we are treated!

Very good, very good indeed

Sep-19-11  gofer: This took waayyy too long. I kept looking for a queen move where I could make the all important "Monday Queen Sac", but today we have a huge red-herring! No "Monday Queen Sac", on a Monday.

<34 Re8+ Kg7 35 Rxd8> wins

Sep-19-11  Memethecat: After a total washout this weekend its a relief to be able to find solutions to POTD without feeliing that my brain is about to explode. Happy mondays
Sep-19-11
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  LIFE Master AJ: 34.Re8+, Kg7; (If Black takes, he loses his Queen.) 35.RxR/d8, ( ) and Black probably resigned.

Did well with this one, but its only Monday.

Sep-19-11  cocker: After 34 ♖e8+ ♔g7 35 ♖xd8 Black gets a few checks, but it looks as though the white king can hide.
Sep-19-11  Nullifidian: 34. ♖e8+

with two options depending on how Black moves:
34... ♔g7 35. ♖xd8
or 34... ♖xe8 35. ♕xd6

Or I suppose Black could play the suicidal 34... ♕f8, which loses in short order to 35. ♕xd8. But it really doesn't matter, because Black's position is lost in any variation.

Sep-19-11
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  agb2002: White is a pawn down.

Black threatens 34... Qxd3, 34... Qxe7, 34... Qxh2+, 34... Qf4+, etc.

The white queen attacks her black colleague directly and the black rook indirectly. This suggests 34.Re8+, forking the black king and the rook:

A) 34... Rxe8 35.Qxd6 + - [Q vs R+P].

B) 34... Kg7 35.Rxd8 Qxh2+ 36.Ke3 Qg3+ 37.Kd4 and the king will march behind the black queenside pawns or stop the checks with a royal fork from c3 or d4 with the white queen.

C) 34... Qf8 35.Qxd8, etc.

Sep-19-11  arkansaw: <X-ray> and <Decoy>

Easy as pie!

Sep-19-11  Lamine: I guess the thing to notice is that:
34. Qc3+ (intending checkmate) fails to Qd4+ forcing the exchange of queens.
Sep-19-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  kevin86: A simple case of deflecting the guard.

After the text,black must abandon the queen or allow his rook to fall after a king move.

Sep-19-11  jussu: Gee, I give up. After 34. Re8+ Kg7 35. Rxd8 Qxh2+ white should eventually escape the perpetual somehow, but I am still unable to find the Monday solution.
Sep-19-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  chrisowen: pipeline rook props up black surge hooker sweep the rug it being trouble 34. Re8 underneath the gun Capt Eveready DJ (dont rise?) d8 bat tries pick off.
Sep-19-11  sevenseaman: <Gee, I give up. After 34. Re8+ Kg7 35. Rxd8 Qxh2+ white should eventually escape the perpetual somehow, but I am still unable to find the Monday solution.>

<Jussu> you cannot 'not find' the solution today. You made the key move and a few spite checks should not stop you.

<36. Ke1 Qg1+37. Kd2 Qf2 38. kc3 Qe1+ 39. Kb3 Qe6+ 40. Kb2 Qe5 41 Kc2 Qh2 42. Kb3> No more checks You should have no problem mating, no matter what Black does next.

Sep-19-11  Bengambit: Why even try to figure this out???? How simple, Re8+ wins material.34.Qc3+?? gives black the tempo and a long drawn out game.............
Sep-19-11
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  FSR: <chrisowen: pipeline rook props up black surge hooker sweep the rug it being trouble 34. Re8 underneath the gun Capt Eveready DJ (dont rise?) d8 bat tries pick off.>

How is it that everyone else missed this?

Sep-19-11  TheFocus: I like how <chrisowen> is able to bring it right to the point.

You read his post, then you slap your head and exclaim, "Yes! Now I see!"

Sep-19-11  BiteByBits: this game reminds me of the beauty of the deflection/x-ray attack, which can vary from "easy" level to setup, such as this one with Re8+ on the back rank, to something spectacular, such as this game in 1974:

Tal vs W R Chandler, 1974

20.♕e5!!! ♕xe5 (20...♕xc4! 21. ♕xe6!!! ♕xe6 (or ♗xe6) 22. ♖f8+ leads to mate) 21. ♖f8+!

Sep-19-11  sevenseaman: Tal vs W R Chandler, 1974 is a very pertinent reference given by <ByteByBits> that illustrates the <X-Ray> concept on a much larger scale.

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