Gustav Neumann vs Alexander Gohle (1864)

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Gustav Neumann vs Alexander Gohle
Berlin (1864), Berlin GER (Prussian Empire)
Italian Game: Evans Gambit. Main Line (C51) · 1-0

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Mar-18-14		Once: What a delicious little knight move! It sets up the discovered check by getting out of the way of white's Queen and knight trebuchet. Ng6, double check and mate. It threatens the black queen so that if all else fails white can commit reginacide with Nxe8. Nasty. It blocks off the e8 square so that black can't make a primary bolthole by moving his queen out of the way. It blocks the black rook's access to the bishop on e6, preventing Rxe6 which would free up the g8 square as a secondary bolthole. Black's best is probably to submit to the loss of his queen with something like exf4, but that is pretty hopeless.

Mar-18-14		Once: Phony's delightful story about the "Dodd Gambit" is an example of a spoonerism. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoone... The Reverend William Archibald Spooner had the amusing habit of getting his mords wuddled. He was prone to swapping around the first consonants of a pair of words, or even whole syllables. This has given us: The queer old dean ... instead of the dear old queen. A well boiled icicle ... instead of a well oiled bicycle. And one of the most famous ... "Sir, you have hissed all my mystery lessons and tasted the whole worm." (Missed all my history lessons and wasted the whole term). Sadly, like many of these things it turns out that most of the spoonerisms that we know and love weren't said by Spooner. His students started a craze of inventing spoonerisms behind his back (well you would, wouldn't you?). Nearly all of the famous examples were fabricated.

Mar-18-14		patzer2: White's winning attack in this Evans gambit contest starts long before 27. Nd6! Fritz 12 indicates 20. Nf4! gives White a clear winning advantage, but it appears to me White is in control well before that point. Earlier, 11...Ne7 = or 12...Ne7 = to might have held.

Mar-18-14		FSR: I'm going with 27.Nd6 Rxd6 28.Ng6#.

Mar-18-14		FSR: A lot of Dodd Gambit action here (although apparently after checkmate has been effected, so it may not qualify): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brF...

Mar-18-14		zb2cr: 27. Nd6! does the trick. Black then saves his Queen, and White follows up with 28. Ng6#.

Mar-18-14		Penguincw: This puzzle is probably a little to hard for a Tuesday. 1/2 this week.

Mar-18-14		OhioChessFan: I'm surprised I'm the only person to go for 26. Nxg7. Sure seems like more of a puzzle move.

Mar-18-14		patzer2: Former FSU Football Coach Bobby Bowden was famous for the minced oath spoonerism "dadgummit." Last year, http://www.orlandosentinel.com/spor... reported FSU was selling "dadgummit" shirts in honor of the former coach. P.S.: Of course I'm really dating myself when I can recall Roy Rogers sidekick Gabby Hayes saying "dagnabbigt Roy!" (e.g. http://www.waynegroner.com/2011/08/...).

Mar-18-14		Makavelli II: Nd6. Black can still escape the immediate mate but with heavy material loss.

Mar-18-14		YetAnotherAmateur: To quote Seinfeld, "Hello, Neumann!" The principle seemed very clear: Move those knights off the f-file. The only question was which order. I, being a bit of a patzer, naturally played the less effective but still winning (I think): 27. ♘g6+ A. 27. ... ♕xg6 28. ♘h4+ ♔moves 29. ♘xg6 B. 27. ... hxg6 28. ♘d6+ ♔moves 29. ♘xd8 Unless there's some clever defense that I haven't thought of yet, white ends up with a Q+R+B or Q+R+N versus R+R+B, which is favorable to white.

Mar-18-14		OhioChessFan: <YAA> 27. Ng6+ Qxg6 28. Nh4(or d4)+ Qf6 and Black is better. One line: 27. Ng6+ Qxg6 28. Nd4+ Qf6 29. Qxf6 gxf6 30. Nxc6 bxc6 click for larger view

Mar-18-14		kevin86: I moved the wrong knight. I think white can win,anyway.

Mar-18-14		kevin86: If I recall correctly, Alekhine once resigned by throwing his king across the room.

Mar-18-14		YouRang: Very pretty! 27.Nd6! threatens the Qe8, but more importantly, it attacks the e8 square -- the king's only escape square after Ng6++ (double-check). It wasn't hard to guess that a pair of N moves were in the works (exposing the discovered Q check), but finding the forced mate with 27.Nd6! is a bit less obvious.

Mar-18-14		Patriot: White is up 2 pieces for a rook and 2 pawns. Black threatens 27...exf4 or 27...Rxe6. There are quite a few ideas here, but I think 27.Nd6 is a killer. 27...Rxd6 28.Ng6# 27...e4 28.Ng6# I don't see a way out for black that doesn't just lose from major material loss.

Mar-18-14		BOSTER: POTD looks very artificial, and because I had the desire to play 27.Nxg7 when all played Nd6, I ask why? I guess the answer is the same why as black king moved 25...Kf8 , where white battery was , not Kd8 -Kc7- Kb8. White can win before 21.Nfg6+

Mar-18-14		BOSTER: <YouRang : but finding the forced mate with 27.Nd6 is a bit less obvious.> There is no the forced mate. ( ex.exf4 ) .

Mar-18-14		TheBish: G Neumann vs A Gohle, 1864 White to play (27.?) "Easy" Material is roughly even, with White having two knights for a rook and two pawns. However, the knights are much more active than the rook on h8, and worse yet, Black's king is a sitting duck and his bishop is no help at all. After looking at 27. Nxg7 for awhile, I realized that the f5 knight is totally superfluous -- that is, not needed and just in the way! To wit, remove the Nf5 and we have a simple mate (thanks to the double check) of Ng6#. So the best move most likely is to move this knight to an active square, clearing it from the f-file with a threat. 27. Nd6! Now Black must give up the queen to stop mate, since 27...Rxd6 still allows 28. Ng6#, and any queen move (other than 27...Qf7) allows the same mate. Even giving up the queen with 27...Qxe6 allows mate with 28. Ng6+! Kg8 29. Qf8#. So in conclusion, Blacks best move now is to resign! But if he insists on soldiering on, best would be 27...exf4 28. Qxf4+ Ke7 29. Nxe8 Rxe6 30. Nxg7.

Mar-18-14		Herma48852: Back to the drawing board .. never even considered 27. Nd6 I guess "easy" is relative.

Mar-18-14		Moszkowski012273: Totally wish this game had ended 27.Nd6,exf4 28.Qxf4+,Ke7 29.Re1!(or Bh3!)...both mating.

Mar-18-14		Cheapo by the Dozen: LOL on the Spoonerisms. And by the way, I'm in the acknowledgments for a book on same, namely http://books.google.com/books/about... That said, it never occurred to me that "Dodd Gambit" was a transposition, perhaps because it adds the Gambit/gammit wordplay to the base Spoonerism.

Mar-18-14		offramp: < kevin86: If I recall correctly, Alekhine once resigned by throwing his king across the room.> That is not correct. It must've been some other player.

Mar-19-14		YouRang: <BOSTER: <YouRang : but finding the forced mate with 27.Nd6 is a bit less obvious.> There is no the forced mate. ( ex.exf4 ).> Yep. Actually, I realized that shortly after I posted (because I read <Once>'s post where he mentioned ...exf4). However, I figured that after black drops the queen, it probably is a forced mate anyway -- just not the short and simple variety of force mate.

Mar-19-14		Moszkowski012273: ...exf4 DOES lead to a forced mate.

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