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J M de Oliveira Gomes vs Joaquim Gentil Caetano Netto
"Guardin' Gomes" (game of the day Nov-07-2004)
game (1942), Taça Tijucas T.C., Rio de Janiero BRA, Jul-??
Three Knights Opening: General (C46)  ·  0-1



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Kibitzer's Corner
Jul-12-04  zb2cr: This miniature features an interesting
method of attacking White's weakened
Kingside, starting with the Rook move
on Black's 14th.
Oct-07-04  morphy234: wow, what a game! Morphy would have played Nh4 too.
Nov-07-04  Darknight15: the opening is bad played,instead of 3...Bc5 white should have played 4.-Nxe5! if 4.-...Nxe5 5.-d4 if 4.-...Bxf2+ 5.-Kxf2 Nxe5 6.-d4 Qf6+ 7.-Kg1 Ng4 8.-Qd2 and white is a little bit better than black
Nov-07-04  mack: Err... I'm presuming that this is meant to be a pun on garden gnomes?
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  Hanada: <Mack> Hey look! The err.. bandit is back!
Nov-07-04  Knight13: Cool game. But the weird thing is that White had lots of chances to castle but never castled. Funny thing.

Good game.

Nov-07-04  Assassinater: << Cool game. But the weird thing is that White had lots of chances to castle but never castled. Funny thing. >>

Didn't he castle on move 11?

Nov-07-04  Eopithecus: Shouldn't games by unknown players be listed with a source, in order to prevent fake games from infiltrating the database.
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  patzer2: The subtle 14...Rg8!! is decisive as White loses after 15. g4?? Nf4+ , leaving White nothing better than the game continuation 15. Rg1 Nh4+!! . However, this has to be one of the strangest and most unusual attacks ever on a weakened castled position.
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  kevin86: Black forces white to open game-gives him two rooks as gifts for the queen-and uses the loan queen to mate white.
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  An Englishman: Good Morning: Suprising game in many ways. After 10...Ne7 I thought Black would continue with ...Qd7, ...0-0-0, and ...f5. And then 14...Rg8 was quite a surprise, too.

I'm willing to accept that the game is real, that this Neto individual--for one game only--was as good as any player in history. I've had one outstanding brilliancy, plus one outstanding endgame, which is probably as much as a former weak Master can expect. It's a pity that we can't play that well all the time, but the fact that we *might* keeps us fascinated with the game.

Nov-07-04  marekg248: The exchange of the queen for two rooks didn't work out well for white. The mate is not so usual, at least I have never seen it so far. Must remember it, I once had similar position and got nothing of it.
Nov-07-04  dac1990: Please forgive those last two comments. Thatg was my obnoxious younger sister playing a practical joke.
Nov-07-04  Knight13: <Assassinater> Oops. I meant Black, not White. I fliped the board when I was obeserving the game and I totally forget about white was on the top and black was on the bottom!
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  OhioChessFan: I understand the skepticism. Hard to believe such a game ended in mate. Tim Krabbe' lists Rg8 as one of the 110 Most Amazing Moves of All Time.
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  vonKrolock: <9.♘b5; 12.♘a3> Nonsense - white will play the remaining phases a whole ♘ down...

<14...♖g8>!! Really an extraordinary winning manouevre - in it's inexorability... But the Rook move could hardly be labeled a 'problem-like move', because the immediate <14...♘h4>+ would produce aproximately the same finale - therefore ♖g8 is not a 'key' move like in compositions, unique in space AND time...

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  GrahamClayton: <An Englishman>I'm willing to accept that the game is real, that this Neto individual--for one game only--was as good as any player in history.

An Englishman,
I have always been fascinated by this game. Was Neto an "ordinary" player who had this one moment of brilliance, before disappearing back into obscurity?

The lack of other games from him, plus a lack of games from Rio de Janeiro in 1942, suggests this may have been a casual or club game that was recorded and then published in various sources, which accounts for it still being famous over 60 years later.

As well as the move 14...♖g8!!, this game is also famous for another reason. As far as I know, it is the only game where a "Double-Rook" sacrifice has featured a rook capturing both rooks (20.♖g8+) & (21.♖a8), instead of a Queen capturing both Rooks. Is there another example in the database?

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  FSR: <GrahamClayton> I looked through Seirawan and Minev's book "Take My Rooks!," which consists of games where a player sacs (or offers to sac) both rooks on the first rank. The vast majority of the 135 games are, as you say, games where both rooks are sacrificed to a queen. There are a few other permutations, for example where one rook is sacrificed to a queen, the other to a knight. In one instance, White sacrificed his rook on d1 to a bishop, then offered to sacrifice his rook on hl to the same bishop. This is the only game where both rooks are sacrificed to the opponent's rook.
Oct-03-10  sevenseaman: Play with a purpose. Capturing pieces is not the ultimate aim of the game. What was the White R doing on h1 when Rome was burning?
Oct-17-11  lost in space: very amusing to see how Rg8 leads to mate.

Will try to do the same in my games and it well never ever work out.

Nov-19-11  fetonzio: can your engines find Rg8? this is out of this world! mine (at 2825 elo) goes from a -1.34 evalution just before it, to a -11.4!!!! after only 2 half-moves. i found this on a list where it ranks 108th among the most fantastic moves of all time, and holy @#$%, well deserved.

i suppose it can´t rank much higher given it´s against a total patzer, but still

Nov-20-11  GreenLantern: <fetonzio: can your engines find Rg8?>

To answer your question, yes. Stockfish finds it at 19 ply, Houdini at 15, and Rybka 4 at only 6 ply (hash tables cleared before each run). Still, that's a great move OTB.

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