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Robert James Fischer vs Sidney J Rubin
Simul, 50b (1964) (exhibition), Sacramento, CA USA, Apr-15
Scandinavian Defense: Panov Transfer (B01)  ·  1-0



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Aug-06-04  tomh72000: I think it is because white can play 11.Nd5.
Aug-07-04  tomh72000: 11...Nc2 <12>.Nd5, I mean
May-03-06  GufeldStudent: I think white gets two minor pieces for the rook. Basically, after taking the rook, the knight is trapped.
May-03-06  GufeldStudent: Get this, I was looking at Rubin's position, and---while I haven't had time to go over this idea with a computer---I think white had a draw with Nxf2 (as played) d4 Nc2 Qxf2 cxd4 Na4 (Nd5 is no better since it too can be met by d3)) d3 Nxb6 Bxf2+ Rxf2 and axb6. While it seems that white is down a piece, Black can actually get it back since he is still attacking the Rook and bishop. Fascinating stuff. Nc2 Na4 is interestig but black holds in this line also. Na4 Nxe1 Nxb6 Nxf3+ Bxf3 Bxb6 and white will win a pawn but black can desperado his trapped piece. Again fascinating stuff.
May-03-06  GufeldStudent: Rather, I mean black has the draw.
May-04-06  GufeldStudent: Actuaully dxc5 refutes my whole line. Fischer is just winning in this game.
May-04-06  zev22407: IF 19)..N-c2 20)Nd7+ and Ne7 mate.
May-04-06  LoFarkas: What's that annotation at move 36? A frickin' joke? Who wrote it?
May-04-06  offramp: <LoFarkas: What's that annotation at move 36? A frickin' joke? Who wrote it?>

Looks like one of A J Goldsby 's.

May-04-06  who: 11...Nc2 12.Nd5 Nxe1 13.Nxb6 Nxf3+ 14.Bxf3 Bxb6 15.hxg4 looks good for black
May-04-06  delterp: I don't understand why black was excited to get into a tactical struggle with Robert James Fischer. Hello? Castle?
May-04-06  RookFile: Looks like a really complex game.

I wonder how bad 11.... h5 would be. Taking the knight with 12. hxg4 hxg4 could be dangerous for white. Maybe he would instead play 12. Na4.

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  keypusher: <LoFarkas> That is a Fritz comment. Some people leave fritz annotations in when they submit games.

Wild game!

Jan-11-07  piroflip: a pleasure to play through,
but black should have given up a tad earlier, facing Bobby with pawns against pawns and knight!!
Jan-11-07  malthrope: <piroflip: a pleasure to play through, but black should have given up a tad earlier [...]>

Hehehe... :-) This was against Sidney (we just called him 'Sid') and he told us later (the next night in Davis) smiling that he was just having a good time. Note: Bobby Fischer played four simuls in California in Hollywood (+47 -1 =2 // April 12th), San Francisco (+34 -4 =8 // April 13), Sacramento (+47 -2 =1 // April 15), and finally at Davis (+10 -0 =0 // April 16). We stacked the house against him at the famous Mechanics' Institute Chess Club (San Francisco). At the Sacto simul Bobby was crushing that night against 50 willing opponents.

The next night I was there at Davis (CA) chess exhibition and he played against all 'Experts & Masters' that night (April 16) in a 10-board clock simul (all those games are given in our CG database). It was an impressive performance by Bobby (scoring a perfect 10-0 as mentioned above). BTW: It's all well covered in 'A Legend On the Road (Bobby Fischer's 1964 Simul Tour)' by my old chess friend IM John Donaldson (shameless book plug I know but it's a good account of Bobby's '64 U.S.A simul tour). ;-) - Mal

Dec-01-08  Helios727: In theory 4. dxc6 is an unsound pawn grab, but in practice it is hard for black to avoid falling into a disadvantage.
Dec-01-08  Travis Bickle: <malthrope> You actually witnessed 'The Maestro' in action wow fantastic!! I have that book you plugged, great book! In '64 Bobby played in Cicero, a suburb of Chicago which is about 20 minutes from my house, and back then I didnt even know it. ; 0 P.S. That simul shows a totally mentally healthy Robert James Fischer, because just a short year before Nov. 22 President John F. Kennedy was assinated. The older Fischer would never have participated after such an event happened, due to Bobby's extreme paranoia. Even The Beatles had fears of coming to America after Kennedy's killing. Travis
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  Eggman: Surprising that Fischer would go in for this unpopular line, and surprising that he would allow such a tactical struggle in a simul. Perhaps he enjoyed the challenge. I think he also enjoyed the opportunity to explore certain lines and see if the patzers might produce some interesting ideas.

A game worthy of study, methinks.

Sep-15-09  wrap99: Is this Sid Rubin, Los Angeles player who was rated 2000+ in the 1970s?
Jan-14-11  Damianx: i wonder y Bobby never played 23 Nc6+ instead of Ng6+ then Nxd8 it keeps both minor pieces & traps the rook must of just been playing with him
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  beatgiant: <Damianx>
On 23. Nxc6+ Rxd6 is possible (because it is not a double check, unlike 23. Ng6++).
Mar-01-14  jasmin: How about 10. Na4?
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  SwitchingQuylthulg: Fischer missed a mate in 2 here...

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...with 22.Nh6+ gxh6 23.Rg1# - of course it made no difference in the end.

Dec-03-14  TheFocus: From a simul in Sacramento, California on April 15, 1964.

Fischer scored +47=1-2.

Oct-20-16  Gottschalk: <who>
11...Nc2 12 Nd5 Bf2+ is better for B.
11...Nc2 12 Qd1 Na1 13 hg4 Bg4 14 Ne5 Be6
is a intersting gambit line.
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