chessgames.com
Members · Prefs · Laboratory · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing
Curt von Bardeleben vs Max Harmonist
5th DSB Congress, Frankfurt (1887), Frankfurt am Main GER, rd 7, Jul-22
Queen's Gambit Declined: Modern Variation (D50)  ·  1-0

ANALYSIS [x]

FEN COPIED

explore this opening
find similar games 2 more von Bardeleben/M Harmonist games
PGN: download | view | print Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: You can get computer analysis by clicking the "ENGINE" button below the game.

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with this chess viewer, please see the Olga Chess Viewer Quickstart Guide.
PREMIUM MEMBERS CAN REQUEST COMPUTER ANALYSIS [more info]

A COMPUTER ANNOTATED SCORE OF THIS GAME IS AVAILABLE.  [CLICK HERE]

Kibitzer's Corner
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 2 OF 2 ·  Later Kibitzing>
Jun-21-10  gus inn: I think it was Max Harmonist who promised to dance on the table if Vera Menchik succeed in winning a game in the same tournament he participated.She did.
Jun-21-10  DWINS: <gus inn>, It couldn't have been Max Harmonist, since he died when Menchik was one year old.

I never heard that story before. The one I heard was that Albert Becker nastily said that anyone who lost to her should be granted entry into the "Vera Menchik Club". Ironically, Becker himself became the first member! There was no disgrace in losing to her as she was very strong. As a matter of fact, the membership of the "Vera Menchik Club" included Max Euwe, Samuel Reshevsky, and many other leading masters of the day.

Jun-21-10  gus inn: OK >DWINS > thanks for the info.And i know about the VMclub too,but I still believe there was something about the other story.But not Marx as the "leading actor" I see:)
Jun-21-10  Nietzowitsch: <gus inn> Check Menchik vs A Becker, 1929 for further details.
Jun-21-10  gus inn: <Nietzowitsch> Thanks,mate!
Jun-21-10  get Reti: Monday is supposed to be queen sac for checkmate day, not queen sac for winning a knight day :( got it after a few seconds though :D
Jun-21-10  benjinathan: <notyetagm> You ought to include the World's victory over Timmerman in that callection- forked rooks.
Jun-21-10  johnlspouge: Monday (Very Easy)

Von Bardeleben vs Harmonist, 1887 (31.?)

White to play and win.

Material: Up a P. The Black Kh7 has 2 legal moves and is vulnerable to Nf3-g5+ and checks from Qe5. It’s a Monday morning Q sac.

Candidates (31.): Qxe4

31.Qxe4 Qxe4 [else, drop a N] 32.Ng5+ K any 33.Nxe4

White wins Ne4.

Jun-21-10  Marmot PFL: Black mistimed his castling. 14 Qb1 is good but I like 14 Bxh7+ even better.
Jun-21-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  chrisowen: Key is e4 echo ah double base fork park knight after pitching Qxe4 would win drum of support. Strike up again Ng5 grips having a ball white is. Note it in sequence Qxc4 steps out of tune stepping up horse pinch hitter.
Jun-21-10  kevin86: A little harder than usual on Monday-white lends his queen at shark rates:one move,one knight.
Jun-21-10  Brandon plays: Yeah, this was pretty easy. Once you see that the king can be forked with the knight, the rest is childs play.
Jun-21-10  YouRang: Embarrassed to say that it took me a while to see this. I got caught up in the interaction of the rooks and the queen's diagonal to h8, and, ah, ... why on earth would you want to hear this? :-\
Jun-21-10  DarthStapler: Got it easily
Jun-21-10  turbo231: I saw that the black knight was in the way but I couldn't get around it. I started to give up on a Monday's puzzle when I finally saw the fork. A good player would have seen it in about 3 seconds, it took me about 5 minutes.
Jun-21-10  Whitehat1963: Took me a while, too. Much longer than usual for a Monday.
Jun-21-10  thegoodanarchist: The Monday puzzles are getting harder. This seems like a Tuesday puzzle to me.
Jun-21-10  patzer2: Another simple tactic in this game is 14. Qb1! with a double attack that wins a pawn.

Black gets some development for the pawn, but it doesn't seem to be enough.

Jun-21-10  reti: My dear friend Once:there is no misdirection here. It is pure force, but beautiful!
Jun-22-10  TheaN: Monday 22 June

<31.?>

Target: 0:40;000
Taken: ~0:05;000

Material: White up, ♙

Candidates: Qxe4

-ML-
Saw this one pretty instantly, there's only one reasonable move to consider.

<31.Qxe4 > nets White a piece as after 31....Qxe4 32.Ng5† regains the Queen without loss. Time to check.

Jun-22-10  RandomVisitor: After 21...Ng4! white is hard-pressed to even find a drawing line:


click for larger view

Rybka 3:

[-1.55] d=20 22.e4 Rbe8 23.e5 Nxe5 24.Ne1 f5 25.Qb3 Ba8 26.Rd2 Rh8 27.h3 Ng4 28.Qg3 Qxg3 29.fxg3 Ne3 30.Rb1 Kf6 31.Kf2 Re7 32.Rb5 Rc8 33.Nf3 Be4

[-1.82] d=20 22.h3 Bxf3 23.hxg4 Bc6 24.Rd3 Be4 25.Bf3 Rh8 26.Bxe4 Qh2+ 27.Kf1 Qh1+ 28.Ke2 Qxa1 29.Rd1 Qc3 30.Qxc3 dxc3 31.Kd3 Rhd8+ 32.Bd5 Rb2 33.Kxc3 Rxf2 34.Rb1 Re8 35.Kd3 Rxa2 36.Rb7 Ra3+ 37.Kd2

Jun-23-10  Raulone: Hi, I work in AI and rybka is not perfect. See this study:

http://www.imaxenes.com/imagen/deep...

It´s better 1.Nf6+ than 1.d8=Q
(Deep Rybka 3 Dynamics on i5 750 quad core 2,7GHzs 8GBDDR3 RAM)

Dec-17-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  Penguincw: Black just lost a piece.
Dec-17-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  gezafan: <gus inn: I think it was Max Harmonist who promised to dance on the table if Vera Menchik succeed in winning a game in the same tournament he participated.She did.>

This is interesting because Harmonist was a professional ballet dancer at one time in his life. Did he perform the dance after Menchik won?

Dec-17-11  King Death: <gezafan>, read the response by <DWINS> to the <gus inn> kibitz for the answer to your question. He beat me to the punch. This couldn't have happened.
search thread:   
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 2 OF 2 ·  Later Kibitzing>

NOTE: Create an account today to post replies and access other powerful features which are available only to registered users. Becoming a member is free, anonymous, and takes less than 1 minute! If you already have a username, then simply login login under your username now to join the discussion.

Please observe our posting guidelines:

  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, or profane language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, duplicate, or gibberish posts.
  3. No vitriolic or systematic personal attacks against other members.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
  5. No cyberstalking or malicious posting of negative or private information (doxing/doxxing) of members.
  6. No trolling.
  7. The use of "sock puppet" accounts to circumvent disciplinary action taken by moderators, create a false impression of consensus or support, or stage conversations, is prohibited.
  8. Do not degrade Chessgames or any of it's staff/volunteers.

Please try to maintain a semblance of civility at all times.

Blow the Whistle

See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform a moderator.


NOTE: Please keep all discussion on-topic. This forum is for this specific game only. To discuss chess or this site in general, visit the Kibitzer's Café.

Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of Chessgames.com, its employees, or sponsors.
All moderator actions taken are ultimately at the sole discretion of the administration.

This game is type: CLASSICAL. Please report incorrect or missing information by submitting a correction slip to help us improve the quality of our content.

Home | About | Login | Logout | F.A.Q. | Profile | Preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | New Kibitzing | Chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | Notable Games | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | Privacy Notice | Contact Us

Copyright 2001-2025, Chessgames Services LLC